Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

General: Jennings: Why I'll Play Star Trek Online

StraddenStradden Managing EditorMember CommonPosts: 6,696

MMORPG.com Columnist Scott Jennings lays out the reasons, both good and bad, that he'll be picking up Cryptic's Star Trek Online.

Scott Jennings

As I may have mentioned, one of the benefits of working at a video game company is that you can play video games on your breaks without anyone really giving you grief. So, while poking my head up from a busy day of coding web tools designed to make gold farmers cry, I walked past a GM on his lunch hour who had the new Star Trek beta on his screen.

"So, what do you think?"

"It's *just like* City of Heroes."

I watched for a minute, and sure enough, he had an action bar of punches and kicks, er, torpedoes and phasers that triggered off enemies using number keys. But... I didn't care. Because he was flying a MIRANDA-CLASS LIGHT CRUISER against a K'T'INGA CLASS BATTLE CRUISER and omg, there was a z-axis and he was strafing shield angles and yes, I am a horrible, horrible Trek fanboy who knows the correct spelling of K't'inga from memory. I am the target market for Star Trek Online, made manifest.

Read Why I'll Play Star Trek Online.

Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

«1345678

Comments

  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413

    ROTFL.

     

    I get it.

     

     

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • TeiloTeilo Member Posts: 284

    Give 'em hell!

  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413

    My only issue though is that in addition to giving 'em hell - he also gave them his money... so do they care?

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • JestorRodoJestorRodo Member UncommonPosts: 2,642

    Considering that SW:TOR is now delayed , This well known space franchise will have more of an opportunity with those looking for alternatives to the current offerings /wink

    Unaware of the Jestor?
    http://about.me/JestorRodo/

    Friends enjoy his classic Vblog - https://www.facebook.com/GoodOldReliableNathan

  • korvasskorvass Member Posts: 616

    I'm THAT guy too. I gave up on this game a long time ago. But I keep an open mind on things, so I gave the beta a shot.

    Yeah, it *IS* CoX with a Trek Skin. And that's not a good thing. There are no new or innovative features in this game compared to Cryptic's CoX games. There's nothing really 'Star Trek' at all.

    I could make a really long list of what's wrong with ST:O (in my opinion of course), but I don't think there's any point really. All my gripes with this game can be summed up with one line:

    "Pretty much every single thing you love about Star Trek is NOT in ST:O"

    They didn't have to make for me an EVE-sized galaxy, where every ship function has to be filled by a player. But neither did they have to make City of Whatever with a Trek re-skin. But they did. Graphics, sounds and animations are pretty. Some of the opera music is way out of place. I think the ground combat was working nicely. But I wanted some trek. I wanted to at least get my mission briefings on my bridge screen, and not a CoX pop-up screen with a Vulcan face instead of a Police Officer..

    And that's why I will NOT be playing.

    But I enjoyed your article nonetheless.

     

  • OyjordOyjord Member UncommonPosts: 568

    It may be a Star Trek MMO, and that might appease a few Star Trek fanbois, but it's still a bad, shallow, buggy, clunky, boring, content-less, trite videogame by almost every other measure.

     

    You know what they say, you can shellac a turd, but it's still a turd.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,076
    Originally posted by Oyjord


    You know what they say, you can shellac a turd, but it's still a turd.



     

    Yeah but you then get a shellaced Turd. So, you know, "bonus"!

    Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb." 

    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • GutPunchGutPunch Member Posts: 17

    The truth is that Crypitc is looking for the people you are trying to satire.  They know their game is a pile of sh!t, half assed, paper thin game with lots of pretty graphics and some IP related materails.  They don't care!  They are only looking to see how many lifetime subs they can get out of people cause selling 20 months of subs on the first day you play is really cool when the game won't last much beyond 12 months.

    This, along with the push to make games more Casual (I blame consoles for that), is why gaming hasn't moved forward since Crysis.  Nobody cares about pushing the boundaries and bring new concepts out cause too many suckers are willing to drop cash into shallow, PVE oriented games.

    /endrant.

    image
    Level of interest in excuses by game developers and fanbois as to the terrible state of game development.
    ---
    Previous Games: E&B, SWG, GW, COX, EVE, TR, LOTRO, CO
    Currently Playing: Nothing - WTB sandbox games!

  • zantaxzantax Member Posts: 254

    I have to say that this article made me laugh out loud here at work.  I completely understand where your coming from, I may not be the uber star trek "nerd/geek/whatever" but I love the movies, tv shows and most of the games.  I can't speak klingon or any other language like that but I love it when people do, I also can't spell it but it is impressive that a tv show could spawn not only a fan base like the star trek fans but also a whole language that people want to learn.

    I know that while we will all, uber star trek fans, expect to much from STO but it won't stop us from supporting it, heck even Enterprise made it for what 6 season, actually I think it was 5.  As long as the game is Star Trek, it will survive just look at how long Star Wars Online has being going after Sony destroyed it, this game will last a long time.

    I can't wait to hear more of your ranting about things in game or even wish lists...LOL

    I have to ask one question though, do you REALLY have a tricorder that you held up too your computer with your wife watching you and listening?  Because that is Epic.

  • noxxnoxx Member UncommonPosts: 120

    hehehehe.... well Scotty ......let me know how it feels a few months after gold.......

  • PagoasPagoas Member UncommonPosts: 120

    and it has Zachary Quinto's voice.  the newest, hottest VILF.

    image
  • ThenariusThenarius Member Posts: 1,106

    Hah, I really laughed.

    Nice one.

  • OddjobXLOddjobXL Member Posts: 102

    I just posted this to Ten Forward over at Cryptic's site but I think it might well speak to "Why I'll Play Star Trek Online" as well.

     

    "The folks in my Fleet are pretty happy with STO and they're far bigger Trekkers than I am.

    The reality is we actually come from a background playing MMOs and MMOs based on IPs at that. Compared to Age of Conan or Star Wars Galaxies (and close to a par with Lord of The Rings Online), Star Trek Online is doing yeoman's work bringing us gameplay that's enjoyable in a format that at least doesn't violate the basic concepts of the setting. If you're willing to accept the Federation is at war premise at least.

    For folks not experienced with how crappy a job developers tend to do with established settings it may be all to easy just to see the shortcomings and not everything they've gotten right. Because you don't always notice what's working for you only what isn't. The best gameplay and content, and gameplay and content truest to source material, tends to be invisible because it's intuitive and something we'd assumed would be there.

    Of course there are NPC crews. Of course every character is a uniformed Starfleet officer. Of course Klingons can't attack newbie ships around earth. Of course we'd have ship's bridges. Of course we'd have well written stories based on Trek lore. Of course there'd be something like the Genesis Engine to give us an illusion of exploration in randomly generated, and often visually stunning, worlds and systems. Of course there'd be an amazing character generator. Of course we'd have a plethora of Trek specific emotes. Of course there would be exciting tactical ground and space combat. Of course....and it goes on and on.

    None of these are "of course". Any of these could be something else and something that wouldn't be nearly as good.

    Deeper, more thematic than just pew pew, content would be good and may be coming (is coming according to the devs). The Genesis Engine could always be expanded in complexity and possibility making for a deeper exploration experience than we currently have. Memory Alpha will allow us do invent based on our discoveries of anomalies as we go allowing the imaginative to see themselves as scientists and explorers. The more literal minded may well find adventures that will go into more detail about the weird science of Star Trek or more convoluted mission types like first contact.

    But for now, what we have is pretty damn good and could be much worse. I've been through this many times before and I know whereof I speak."

    Always notice what you notice.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,581

    Its was a good read, and I see what the OP is saying, but while I'm a long time fan of the IP, the game and its design just doesn't interest me enough to fork over the cash to play it.

    Maybe in its next life.....

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by GutPunch


    The truth is that Crypitc is looking for the people you are trying to satire. ... the game won't last much beyond 12 months.
    ...

    I think the point is that there are enough of "THAT GUY" out there following this IP that zantax is right - this game will last years maybe.

    The obvious solution for Cryptic at this point however is to allow people to only register for the forums in one role... (Engineer for technical complaints, tactical for game play complaints, science for IP lore complaints etc) and....

    ... charge them for respecs? 

    >:-]~

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465
    Originally posted by Kyleran


    Its was a good read, and I see what the OP is saying, but while I'm a long time fan of the IP, the game and its design just doesn't interest me enough to fork over the cash to play it.
    Maybe in its next life.....

     

    You are correct, Sir!

    Anyone who pays for crap, just encourages more crap.

     

     

  • GutPunchGutPunch Member Posts: 17
    Originally posted by Gyrus

    Originally posted by GutPunch


    The truth is that Crypitc is looking for the people you are trying to satire. ... the game won't last much beyond 12 months.
    ...

    I think the point is that there are enough of "THAT GUY" out there following this IP that zantax is right - this game will last years maybe.

    The obvious solution for Cryptic at this point however is to allow people to only register for the forums in one role... (Engineer for technical complaints, tactical for game play complaints, science for IP lore complaints etc) and....

    ... charge them for respecs? 

    >:-]~



     

    Hey I'm a free market guy.  Good for Cryptic.  They found the IP with the greatest amount of suckers who have deep wallets.

    I wouldn't be suprised to find out you are correct with respecs and character slots etc.

    It still sucks for those of us who actually want a game tho.

    image
    Level of interest in excuses by game developers and fanbois as to the terrible state of game development.
    ---
    Previous Games: E&B, SWG, GW, COX, EVE, TR, LOTRO, CO
    Currently Playing: Nothing - WTB sandbox games!

  • cerebrixcerebrix Member UncommonPosts: 566

     cool story bro

    Games i'm playing right now...
    image

    "In short, I thought NGE was a very bad idea" - Raph Koster talking about NGE on his blog at raphkoster.com

  • yevoc42yevoc42 Member Posts: 34

    This article is EXACTLY how I feel. (Except the playing it anyway and spelling Klingon perfectly)  Well done!

  • ReckerRecker Member Posts: 161
    Originally posted by Pagoas


    and it has Zachary Quinto's voice.  the newest, hottest VILF.

     

    vilf???? hun wtf is a vilf

  • DakirnDakirn Member UncommonPosts: 372

    Every time an MMO is released, people say it wont last past a year. Yet almost every single one has lasted longer than that.

    The ones that have failed in the past few years could be counted on one hand (ok maybe two), yet there are still dozens out there that are successful and have much smaller fanbases than STO.  Heck, even AoC is still going.  Darkfall is still making a profit and has an expansion coming out.

    While STO isn't perfect, it's pretty fun and game play gets more complex as you level and get past a Miranda (which people seem to judge as the entire game).

  • DakirnDakirn Member UncommonPosts: 372
    Originally posted by Recker

    Originally posted by Pagoas


    and it has Zachary Quinto's voice.  the newest, hottest VILF.

     

    vilf???? hun wtf is a vilf

    Vulcan I'd Like to F... well I can't finish it here.  Kinda like a MILF.  I suppose a Vulcan could be a VILF and MILF.. hmm..

  • ReckerRecker Member Posts: 161
    Originally posted by Burntvet

    Originally posted by Kyleran


    Its was a good read, and I see what the OP is saying, but while I'm a long time fan of the IP, the game and its design just doesn't interest me enough to fork over the cash to play it.
    Maybe in its next life.....

     

    You are correct, Sir!

    Anyone who pays for crap, just encourages more crap.

     

     

     

     I completly agree. However how am i too know it is crap?  Do i believe the egregious amount of trolling on mmorpg???? Or the fansboys??? I dont know of a single person or sight where i can find good reviews that arent bias in 1 way or another. Also your definition of crap may differ from mine?

    So tbh the only way is to get lucky and try the beta and even then with a lvl cap of 16 i cant really rely on just that. I have pre order + i got 7 beta keys which ive given to friends and family. I like the space combat end of story. Ground combat is chunky clunky and a 2 shot fest for those with good equipment. In space PVP if feds ball up its near impossible to kill them. But if klingon can pick 1 or 2 off and stop the ball they will win.  Overall the game is good in space crap on ground and needs a chunk of work. Releasing early because ATARI is retarded, they finished 1 race , while the 2nd is still being worked on and is expected to be on par 45 days after launch. So i will be lvl 45(Not 50 those bastereds) so most of the fixes and content wont apply to me. Unless I reroll( YEAH GOOD LUCK WITH THAT 3 SLOT BASTERDS).

  • ReckerRecker Member Posts: 161

    Oh and they tease us with the faction page showing 4 factions but only 2 are avaiable. Help me out here. The other 2 faction are cardasian and romulan yes?????

  • DakirnDakirn Member UncommonPosts: 372
    Originally posted by Recker


    Oh and they tease us with the faction page showing 4 factions but only 2 are avaiable. Help me out here. The other 2 faction are cardasian and romulan yes?????

     

    Yes, they will be added later. Currently it's just Starfleet vs. Klingons.  I'd also expect to eventually see other factions such as Marqui.

Sign In or Register to comment.