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Kamayor
Member Posts: 52
Time of this report: 12/18/2009, 22:22:57
Machine name: DAVID-SHAUN
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.090803-2339)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
System Model: GC670AA-ABA a6120n
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 4400 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 2038MB RAM
Page File: 1738MB used, 2580MB available
Windows Dir: C:Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode
So this is my machine pretty bad but on lowest detail I get like 10fps a second literaly.
Warhammer needs support for lower end systems this is just retarded
Comments
Since you didn't write what graphics card you have, I'm gonna assume that it's onboard and that would explain why your FPS is horrible. The game is not retarded, your computer is.
The following are the min requirements for the game to run, you barely meet that. Those are low requirements for PC games, looks like it's time for an upgrade.
PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
For Windows XP
· 2.5 GHz P4 (single core) processor or equivalent
· 1 Gigabyte RAM
· A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
· At least 15 GB of hard drive space
For Windows VISTA
· 2.5 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
· 2 Gigabyte RAM
· A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
· At least 15 GB of hard drive space
Supported Video Cards
ATI Radeon(TM) series
· 9500, 9600, 9800
· X300, X600, X700, X800, X850
· X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900, X1950
· 2400, 2600, 2900,
· 3650, 3850, 3870
· 4850, 4870
NVIDIA GeForce series
· FX 5900, FX 5950
· 6600, 6800,
· 7600, 7800, 7900, 7950
· 8400, 8500, 8600, 8800
· 9400, 9500, 9600, 9800
· GTX 260, GTX 280
Intel(R) Extreme Graphics
· GMA X4500
This, your using vista with a so so machine and you wonder why it runs bad.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
A new vid card will help a lot. Your onboard vid chip is using up memory.
lets not forget you can get 4 gigs (2x2) for like 80 bucks on newegg. I recommend getting more ram as well as a cheap video card.
Man this post makes me feel better. I thought i could handle it too, but no chance. I can do WoW, LoTRO, and Dark Age but WAR was not happening on my 7 year old dimension 8300. It has been a reliable PC , with a few upgrades.
Card name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_2A5E103C&REV_02
Display Memory: 256 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 256 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: HP w1907 Wide LCD Monitor
Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1461 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/25/2008 15:44:28, 3301376 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-6432-11CF-3976-540AA3C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x2772
SubSys ID: 0x2A5E103C
Revision ID: 0x0002
Revision ID: 0x0002
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
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DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
Heres my card but the game should at least have support for some lower end system there alot of people with trash computers WoW runs fine
Don't play video games on on-board video cards.
It doesn't work.
You can get a decent video card (that runs WAR pretty much no problem except in big sieges) for less than fifty bucks.
Also, I hate it when people get angry that games don't work when they lack even a rudimentary understanding of what is required of their system before they can partake. Here's a hint: if the game is 3D, and sometimes even when it isn't, you -need- a video card. Even a shitty one will give you a DRAMATIC performance increase.
EDIT: WoW is five years old and was designed to run at least decently on lower-end systems at that time. That said, lower-end systems five years ago had just a shade under 10% the RAM you have now and an -even less- decent video card. WoW runs fine because it is old. It's like saying 'Well, what, I get great framerates on Ultima Underworld!'
Do you have any idea how LONG five years is in terms of computers?
Techie rage. >:|
would a fifty or sixty dollar video card really help all that much wouldnt it be just the same as the crap i have now
Yes it would help alot. Onboard graphics chips dont game well.Your HP should have a open pci-e slot for a video card upgrade.
Nope!
I built my roomie a super-budget-level gaming rig probably a year and a half ago. Runs WoW fully maxed at 1680x1050, runs WAR on low settings, same resolution, with no hitches unless it's during big 30+people fights, and even then it's somewhere in the same zip code as playable. Cost something like $350. A year ago.
The video card really does make a big difference, especially if you aim a little high.
I can't tell from the info you posted what motherboard that computer comes with, and therefore can't advise you as to which video card you should be using. If it's new enough for Vista, it's probably got a PCI-Express (PCI-E) slot in it. If that's the case, pick up something in the NVidia 9600-9800 family; the ones I've seen are passive-cooled (thus quiet) and not very power-hungry. My roomie has a 9600 and it runs just fine alongside all his other malarkey on a measly little power supply.
Sorry to double-post, but this needs emphasis:
DO NOT just go out and buy a graphics card. Be CERTAIN that you have a PCI-E slot open or else you will have to use another option and your money will be wasted.
Yes good point but even most cheap hp and other brands normally have a pci-e slot. He can open the case and look).If your budget is 50-60 bucks the radeion 4650 is a good choice many for that price at newegg. If you have closer to 80-100 the 9800 is a good choice.
Your telling me a game based on a modified version of an almost 7 year old game that came out 4 years ago runs on more computers than a game that came out last year? this is just crazy.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
http://www.buy.com/prod/pny-geforce-9400gt-1gb-ddr2-550mhz-128-bit-pci-e-2-0-directx-10-video/q/loc/101/210930928.html
This is a 9600-series for a little over fifty bucks.
http://www.buy.com/prod/pny-geforce-9800-gt-1gb-gddr3-pci-e-2-0-video-card/q/loc/101/208898340.html
If you wanna go -really- nuts, this works out to about ninety bucks and will probably be quite a bit snappier, although a bit more power-hungry.
Also, I suggest nVidia only because most modern motherboards are geared to run with it; ATi had been my choice for years until I started having problems that were cleared up by going with nVidia, problems generated by my family buying me a (really nice) computer that had a chipset nVidia likes and ATi didn't. Also, at this point, nVidia makes better cards for the money. : I wish it weren't so, but it is.
It's not the cards that are really the issues these days - ATI's driver support is HORRID.
If a driver bug is reported to NVidia they literally fix it in days. ATI has had some bugs for years and counting - like the multitudes of OpenGL bugs.
Try playing any OpenGL-based games, or game engines, on an ATI card and watch how much fun you will have.
Lots of problems get blamed on the games, but if you are running on an ATI card, that's seriously not always the case - sure some game developers 'might' be able to figure out a work-around, but in the end its impossible to get around some of the driver bugs ATI does not fix.
They made the advertising deals early while ATi stayed in their basements and tinkered and made cooler technology. ATi tinkered, nVidia networked.
Now the technology is pretty much tapped out; microchips are about as fast as microchips are going to get, which is why my GTX 285 OC basically doesn't even fit in my case. Really; the hard drive just dangles in there, kinda propped up on its end, because its housing was too big for it and the video card to coexist.
So! ATi used to make WAY superior cards, but now their cards are kinda at a similar level, with ATi being more efficient and technically proficient and nVidia owning EVERY LICENSING DEAL THERE IS, and thereby being awash in money with which they can hire people to do R&D, fix problems, AND continue making licensing deals.
Yeah so they can play wow doesn't mean it'll look pretty or get good fps.
Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.
If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms
AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD
The 9600 is a great recommendation. Its not top of the line, but the fps gained going from the onboard to a dedicated video ram will be noticeable. The 9600 also runs cooler, takes up less space, lower power requirements. I say a great first upgrade.... also buy the 4 gigs ram. You will be very happy with the performance upgrade.
It doesnt help either that WAR is about as poorly optimized as you can get. I can play AoC on max settings and pull better FPS than I was getting in Warhammer, and lets face it, WAR is not a pretty looking game.
My Guild Wars 2 Vids
Sorry, but they fixed the engine few patches ago, stop referring to half year old info, k thanks!
And no one can run AoC in full detail in large scale pvp, in WAR you can now, and about ugly - it depends if you want anime or gritty "realism", they added HDR and bloom last patch also if you are into that.
Sorry, but they fixed the engine few patches ago, stop referring to half year old info, k thanks!
And no one can run AoC in full detail in large scale pvp, in WAR you can now, and about ugly - it depends if you want anime or gritty "realism", they added HDR and bloom last patch also if you are into that.
Client side you can, server side the game still craps out. Ask Karak Norn, it still crashes regularly on ' large scale PvP'
It is 945G ,it should have pci-ekspres 16X vga slot ,but to be sure download gpu-z and run program and check.
To the OP, here is some good video card buys. I think they may also have free shipping.
$99 Geforce 512 MB 9800 GT DDR3 Memory
www.amazon.com/XFX-PVT98GYDLH-Geforce-9800-Graphics/dp/B001DU7HWK/ref=sr_1_3
$120 EVGA brand
www.amazon.com/EVGA-512-P3-N973-TR-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B001KZH8KO/ref=sr_1_8
From what your system shows you have an onboard video card which is not made for high end gaming. It also looks like your system can handle a much better card, but you may want to ask HP if these cards will work to be sure.
1 PCI E x1 slot /available
1 PCI E x16 slot /available
Anyone recommending Nvidia at the moment is clearly out of touch with the current GPU market. Ati is currently much better and cheaper.