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would adding a 3rd faction to war be an improvement?
mmovass
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Would a 3rd faction help this game?
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Would a 3rd faction help this game?
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I was trying to have more options on this poll, but my comp froze up halfway thru, oh well.
theres only one way to get bees around a bee hive put honey close to it ,same with game
want people ,orgenise tournament often with prize ,be it in pvp pve etc
one exemple check the casino ,people go in there days in days out the machine asnt been updated in 10 years and asnt been changed in 30 years but they still go why?
because they re is hope to win money and hope will drive poeple to big extreem yes even in games
want people in war?say that in september you ll start a competition with money on the table for winner
the idea isnt what it will be lol it could be as simple as kill something in pve the idea is that something can be won
the more its random the better
people love random winable
iif you play war you got a chance to win x y z if you did this and that etc
why do you think athene from wow play poker now ,because he can win money
and money will pull player from any game even wow or even bigger succes silkroad online
have you guys ever tried to play silkroad online
good luck ,its always full ALWAYS ,never saw wow full like that (ok maybe about 1.5 years ago)
silkroad online is an old game not really updated graphicly you have to run it with old program or use the special feature in vista to run it lol ,but its still THE MOST popular in f2p its probably more popular then wow
hell they could double the amount of server ,dont tell me they re all bot lol ,everybody from those country would be in prison
no a lot of people play this game !in america it isnt popular for 1 reason ,you just cant log in ,too many want to play it!
and its a good way 3 party system etc fight ,they could upgrade it tho and add more server,but since their policy is to add a server every 4 month or so wow will die way before silkroad
war isnt a bad game but like lotr isnt a bad game either but if nobodys there then no one will go even if its a great game
check on xfire ,never saw prototype in my whole life suddenly its one of the top in there lol
mmo are almost all the same the only factor that can win gamer garanted everytime is the chance to win money
theres only one way to get bees around a bee hive put honey close to it ,same with game
want people ,orgenise tournament often with prize ,be it in pvp pve etc
one exemple check the casino ,people go in there days in days out the machine asnt been updated in 10 years and asnt been changed in 30 years but they still go why?
because they re is hope to win money and hope will drive poeple to big extreem yes even in games
want people in war?say that in september you ll start a competition with money on the table for winner
the idea isnt what it will be lol it could be as simple as kill something in pve the idea is that something can be won
the more its random the better
people love random winable
iif you play war you got a chance to win x y z if you did this and that etc
why do you think athene from wow play poker now ,because he can win money
and money will pull player from any game even wow or even bigger succes silkroad online
have you guys ever tried to play silkroad online
good luck ,its always full ALWAYS ,never saw wow full like that (ok maybe about 1.5 years ago)
silkroad online is an old game not really updated graphicly you have to run it with old program or use the special feature in vista to run it lol ,but its still THE MOST popular in f2p its probably more popular then wow
hell they could double the amount of server ,dont tell me they re all bot lol ,everybody from those country would be in prison
no a lot of people play this game !in america it isnt popular for 1 reason ,you just cant log in ,too many want to play it!
and its a good way 3 party system etc fight ,they could upgrade it tho and add more server,but since their policy is to add a server every 4 month or so wow will die way before silkroad
war isnt a bad game but like lotr isnt a bad game either but if nobodys there then no one will go even if its a great game
check on xfire ,never saw prototype in my whole life suddenly its one of the top in there lol
mmo are almost all the same the only factor that can win gamer garanted everytime is the chance to win money
My head hurts...
To the wall of text, wow. Not to sound offensive, but please tell me your first language is not english? I had a hard time figuring out what you were saying.
Anyways, I would say adding in a third faction would help, I know skaven, ogres, and something else along those lines would be a good third faction. Since both those mobs are in the game, and have actual classes to work off of. I had a third one that fit, but forgot.
But the biggest problem I see in a third faction, is having to completley re-do the pathing system that you run through from t1-t4. Because, of how the progression works, how else would you be able to implement their pve line without re-doing everyone elses? Unless they like made, a fourth faction as well to compliment the third so they wouldn't have to make a new line for the current two factions. And they would just make their own line with the other two factions that could go between any of the two seperate lines. But, that wouldn't make as much sense in a big war between everyone. So, I'd have to see them re-doing the whole pathing progression to add in a third faction.
Would a third faction make this game better? I think DaoC is evidence that it certainly would have been leagues better. However, it doesn't really matter because it is impossible at this point to make a third faction. The most obvious reason was displayed in the post before mine: the entire game world is designed in a 1v1 pairing. Adding a third faction would require massive changes to the world map, not to mention populations would need to have some type of incentive to start rolling a third faction, but still somehow keep people playing Order and Destruction. Not to mention class balance...
Overall, yes, it would probably have been nice to have a third faction. However, at this point it is impossible. They don't have the resources, nor the population to do it. It would be a WAR 2, not a patch / expansion.
I would be back in a heart beat if there was a 3rd faction in WAR. But I doubt it will ever happen due to coding in a 3rd faction into all the tiers. Unless it came in the form of a expansion with new zones which in turn, the old zones being taken out of game or being deserted.
Judging by the recent points by devs on fortresses that if they cant manage to make them work they may take them out of game, I would think maybe that would be the best time to start implementing a 3rd faction.
I do remember reading a dev's Q and A and he said there was no way a 3rd faction would ever happen in WAR, mean maybe that has changed now as the growing verdict by players now on how to fix WAR is to introduce a 3rd faction because they will never get balance with just two realms, you need a 3rd realm to counter balance if one becomes too strong instead of what its like just now, one becomes stronger the other leaves or rerolls.
I personally think if i was EA / Mythic, it would be to keep plugging away on warhammer and get making Daoc 2 as soon as possible because there is core base of players wanting Daoc 2.
Just my 2 cents....
Well like all things there is the ideal and then there is the reality.
In the ideal a third faction may split things up more. As the biggest issue with 2 factions is when the majority of the population is in one of the two.
The reality quite often later in DAoC was that the third realm just destroyed all action.
If realm A and B are heavily in battle then realm C has nothing to lose. So they are either back biting the attacking realm and thus kill the attack (then its dead all day or night). Or they attack the attacking realm who now leaves to defend... After the defense the action is again dead.
I think in the perfect scenario you see two small realms teaming up against a larger realm. While that can happen... it doesn't by default mean that a third realm adds anything positive.. for the effort involved to add it.
Just my opinion of course.. but quite often in the last year I played DAoC on Bossiney... all the third realm ever did was kill action for the night.
It would be nice to have a third realm but to be honest I think it's far to late add one.
I recently had to cancel my sub, and while taking the exit survey, they asked the exact question the OP posed, (nearly verbatim,) to which I responded 'Yes' so to the OP of the quote above I would have to say; Don't be so certain that it's 'impossible'! If they have enough feedback that a 3rd faction would bring enough old players in, (and by association / transitive - New players,) then I don't think that they wouldn't consider the undertaking.
With my knowledge of the actual WH lore, (as limited as it might be,) the fact that there were only two 'factions' in WAR kind of surprised me. For the most part, the WH universe is a free-for-all. All of the races have no qualms about fighting any other race that would get in their way, (though there are definitely enemy 'preferences'.) I thought that it would be more up to the players maybe to determine who and how they allied, as the conflict played out.
As for 3rd faction potentials, I definitely agree w/ the Skaven, (I know several people who would start / re-sub if the Skaven were playable, : ) but the Ogre idea, hmmm... Lizardmen are good potential, and with all the undead in Land of the Dead, the Tomb Kings seem an obvious canditate. At least w/ the Tomb Kings and Skaven they have been established in the game already, but who knows? Who says that the Brettonians won't just go on the march and put a stop to the squabbling of Order and Destruction?
Maybe that was down to low population or something?
My best memories was Daoc at its peak (many years ago), fighting in emain for example, Hibs fighting Mids well into battle, Albs up on the hills watching then when numbers were low, killing hibs and mids. I'm not sure if thats what you mean by killing the action but to me and loads of other players thats what WAR needs instead of bomb squads with OP'd classes able to take out warbands.
Also in keep taking, hibs defending a keep to hundreds of albs and mids attacking albs from behind. To me that is what made Daoc the no 1 game at its peak.
I base my examples playing hib and alb back in the hey day, but honestly two sides doesn't work, seen it in swg and war, the balance issues are always a main issue.(even years down the line)
But your right a perfect scenario is two small realms against one big one and it happened from time to time, I remember some fights and it ended up with the two small realms slugging it out after wiping the Op'd realm. (good times)
But lets not forget one the main aspects of daoc was speed classes, which sadly WAR doesn't have, thoses horses in WAR are so buggy at times. The speed trains is something i really miss in WAR.
I think a change of this nature could be awesome but really not pratical at this point.
The truth is a new faction would get FARMED so hard while they all level up etc it would result in massive quits and pointlessness.