The game that EVE wishes it could be.

Puoltry · August 2004

www.egosoft.com

This game maybe a standalone offline game but it is EVERYTHING eve SHOULD be.It has a dynamic economy a deep storyline,player made scripts you can down load to make it even more interesting.You can build space stations,pilot multiple ships at the same time and yes even do missions if that is your desire.

CCP pay attention to your competition a online version is in the works as well.

Enigma · August 2004

Originally posted by Puoltry

www.egosoft.com

This game maybe a standalone offline game but it is EVERYTHING eve SHOULD be.It has a dynamic economy a deep storyline,player made scripts you can down load to make it even more interesting.You can build space stations,pilot multiple ships at the same time and yes even do missions if that is your desire.

CCP pay attention to your competition a online version is in the works as well.

You can build Stations in EVE, why would you pilot multiple ships at the same time? Thats what a Corp (Guild is for), and you can do missions in EVE.

check out the EVE forums...many present players are former egosoft players.

Not saying egosoft sucks...but saying I dont realy see a die hard competition there as they both utilize the same ideas.

Puoltry · August 2004

So Shiva has been released then?It was my understanding that would not be implemented until Shiva.Im pretty sure that cant do that atm in eve.

You wouldnt want to pilot multiple battleships in real time?This would make for a very effective piracy career wouldnt it?

fastgreygt · August 2004

You can not build stations in EVE yet. And in Shiva you still won't be able to. They will be player ownable structures that can be used for specfic tasks.

http://www.eve-online.com/features/shiva/deployables/

TookyG · August 2004

I believe the devs have said they want to put player made stations in haven't they. Who knows when that would be on Tranquility though.

bunnyhop · August 2004

The only two things players can put into space (besides jettisoned cargo) is containers and warp destabilier fields. I don't even think shiva will allow station creation...merely station ownership.

Argean · August 2004

True you can not build stations. Shiva will add buildable structures that are more like an outpost then a station. But can have all the same options that stations do now. Also currently there are player controlled stations out in 0.0 space.

Yes you can pilot multiple ships in Eve but like any MMORPG it requires you to have multiple accounts.

Argean...... Caldari
Rebel Mining Guild
Eve-Online

Heartland · August 2004

Originally posted by Puoltry

You wouldnt want to pilot multiple battleships in real time?This would make for a very effective piracy career wouldnt it?

Why would people want to pilot multiple ships at the same time? I wouldn't, anymore than I would want to fly multiple aircraft at the same time in a flight sim. I simply don't understand why this would be a selling point...?

tck_tokyo · August 2004

Originally posted by Heartland

Originally posted by Puoltry

You wouldnt want to pilot multiple battleships in real time?This would make for a very effective piracy career wouldnt it?

Why would people want to pilot multiple ships at the same time? I wouldn't, anymore than I would want to fly multiple aircraft at the same time in a flight sim. I simply don't understand why this would be a selling point...?

Hahahahahahahahaha, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. Unless it's a straight up classic RTS or very similar you don't want to try to man more than one ship at the same time, as this lowers the complexity of what you can do with the one you have. Plus it removes that feeling of realism.

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Hubabuba · August 2004

How could this game be what Eve wanted to be? Its got no PvP and PvP is what Eve is all about.

Rhamos · August 2004

One cannot compare a standalone offline game with a MMORG. They are just totally different in every way.

ballist1c · August 2004

okay so im an avid space sim fan.... i loved Freespace series... and i loved priviteer.... i also went out and bought X-2: the Threat.... with a force feed back joystick...

I have to admit though, even though the game is 'pretty', its not well made, it becomes boring, and tedious, not to mention it doesnt really let u dog fight too well.... im not trying to defend EVE, but i am trying to make sure no one buys this average product....

Puoltry · August 2004

Well i found eve to be as exciting as watching paint dry.If you got bored with x2 then you didnt play it enough.
The thing with x2 is that not everything is spelled out for you.Its pretty much an open ended scenario.You can do whatever you want for the most part.

Ive tried eve 3 times and it just bored me to death.The one thing i couldnt get over was no matter what i did to AVOID mining at the start it was inevitably the best way to make big credits fast.The last time i played it i did countless missions for agents and it just did not pay out enough.

ballist1c · August 2004

Or did u consider that maybe x2 wasnt my cup-o-tea? and EVE isnt yours... lets just leave it at that.... I just didnt like it, it just didnt offer enough dog fighting flexibility.

www.vendetta-online.com

Puoltry · August 2004

Im not trying to defend eve either im just trying to get people to not buy THAT below average product as well.

(btw ill be trying out vendetta as well)

grove123 · September 2004

i think EVE is the game EVE wishes it can be.

Meaning after 2 years of development, its only like 1/2 way of what the Devs wanted in the first place.

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played the demo. Ya its boring. But wow, i wish half the stuff this game has was in EVE. EVE in some way does wish to be like this game. Some of the rules, like dropping shields to open cargo bay or communication between NPC, are cool. Plus this game really does the whole, make money and form an armada or corporation.

tck_tokyo · September 2004

Originally posted by Puoltry

Well i found eve to be as exciting as watching paint dry.If you got bored with x2 then you didnt play it enough.
The thing with x2 is that not everything is spelled out for you.Its pretty much an open ended scenario.You can do whatever you want for the most part.
Ive tried eve 3 times and it just bored me to death.The one thing i couldnt get over was no matter what i did to AVOID mining at the start it was inevitably the best way to make big credits fast.The last time i played it i did countless missions for agents and it just did not pay out enough.

I love it when people comment on things they have no idea about. If you've tried EVE three times and you still think the only way to make good cash is by mining then you must be mentally unstable, or have a similar issue. You need to go read the giant misconception of EVE thread.

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Unknown · September 2004

Originally posted by Puoltry

www.egosoft.com

This game maybe a standalone offline game but it is EVERYTHING eve SHOULD be.It has a dynamic economy a deep storyline,player made scripts you can down load to make it even more interesting.You can build space stations,pilot multiple ships at the same time and yes even do missions if that is your desire.

CCP pay attention to your competition a online version is in the works as well.

FREELANCER is a far better game than EgoSoft aka X2 or whatever its name is.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/67830366/67854619mGgMmC

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Freelancer might not have a better in game economy, or allow building of spacestations, but Freelancer allows you to kill other players, and spetacular space combat. Plus battle the NPC AI which at times can be very difficult as swarms of them battle you, firing different types of missles, laying mines, and far, far, more. The game never gets boring.

EvE Online is closer to Freelancer, but better since the EvE Galaxy is a bit bigger than the Freelancer galaxy. EvE also takes PvP aka fighting other players to a modern level.

EgoSoft is simply an exact copy of HOMEWORLD but with updated graphics. Heck, HOMEWORLD is still better than EgoSoft/X2

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hydrith · September 2004

Don't you even dare putting Freelancer up against EVE. The games are completely different. It's like trying to compare X2 to JetFighter. The games are so different that you cannot compare the two in nearly the same terms.

Oh sure, they are both sims, but there is a huge difference. Freelancer is a game where you sit behind a ship for the whole game, not doing anything but that. Combat is also so simple that it reaches the point of BORING to those of us who place space sims. Freelancer, in effect, is a good space sim for newbies or for simplified gamers.

And X2 is definitely not a game to compare to EVE. Sure, you can do just about everything that you like to, but comparing an MMO to a single player game just doesn't work. In fact, trying to make you look more like an idiot. X2 is a fine game, far better than Freelancer, but it just doesn't comare.

EVE, if you ask me, is by far one of the best MMOs that I have played, mainly because it sits apart from all other MMOs. Not only is it a space MMO, but it's one of a few that relies almost completely on character made items. In some ways, this comparison places EVE alongside games like Horizons, where 90 percent of items are built by other characters. It makes the game better for all players, and gives players more to do.

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Artean · September 2004

Originally posted by Hubabuba
How could this game be what Eve wanted to be? Its got no PvP and PvP is what Eve is all about.

Yup, agree. In addition, not only PvP in the sense of combat but to have player vs player interaction on almost all aspects of the game. Quite hard to compare the two of them due to the simple fact that X2 is a single player and EVE a mmorpg.

Unknown · September 2004

Originally posted by hydrith
Don't you even dare putting Freelancer up against EVE. The games are completely different. It's like trying to compare X2 to JetFighter. The games are so different that you cannot compare the two in nearly the same terms.

I wish you would state who you are responding to.

If it was to me, re-read where I said:

"EvE Online is closer to Freelancer, but better "

EvE comes closer to being like Freelancer instead of like X2, out of those two games. The only thing I said Freelancer was better than was... EgoSoft aka X2

And X2 is definitely not a game to compare to EVE.

You now need to mention the name of the original maker of this tread since that is who this statement of yours is directed to.

EVE, if you ask me, is by far one of the best MMOs that I have played, mainly because it sits apart from all other MMOs. Not only is it a space MMO, but it's one of a few that relies almost completely on character made items. In some ways, this comparison places EVE alongside games like Horizons, where 90 percent of items are built by other characters. It makes the game better for all players, and gives players more to do.

I agree. And a better comparison to a game with 90% to 95% character made items would be...... SWG aka Star Wars Galaxies. It was one of the first ever MMORPGs in which the best items in the game litterally did not exist for the first 6 months the game was out because the player crafters were not yet veteran enough.

This is my opinion, and I could be wrong.

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Hey, you have SWG listed as being played by you right now? LOL! Then you should know about SWG's 95% player made items and player economy.

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Alkatraz · December 2004

Don't confuse ownable structures with player made stations....Shiva will give us the oportunity to build structures but they are far away from being called stations

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