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For all Ex DAoC Veterans - AION is the way to go

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  • KeridwenKeridwen Member UncommonPosts: 58
      Pure genius. You can fight in the air... unlike DAOC... It's elitist... unlike DAOC... 6 man groups... unlike DAOC... No PVE grind for gear (Trials of Atlantis anyone...)... unlike DAOC.

     

     

    Yes indeed, you must have truly exercised your single brain cell. DAoC was the most elitist game ever (especially around RR levels, guild membership and RvR guild ranking) , and with the classic version and prior to ToA there are no PVE grind in DAoC since for RvR (which was pretty much the end game) it was down to obtaining a finely tuned template and having your gear crafted at extortionate prices. I wonder what RR level you actually achieved in DAoC? I did say UNLIKE DAoC with AION you have flight winged battles.

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  • YauchyYauchy Member UncommonPosts: 298

     My memory of DaoC is fleeting, but nontheless I find the negative responses in this thread to have such angst!

    Its kind of ironic when people put time & effort into writing up intial reviews, that the negative posts are always quick jabs with no effort at all...either that or long winded, over-spirited bouts of epeen.

    Ah well, I look forward to trying Aion, even though from reviews & comments (even this one) it doesnt seem like a game I would enjoy (how about just out of spite to the haters).

    Long live the low count posters! I'm a reader not a writer, what can I say...Also thank you for sanely writing about the "anime" tag...though usually WoW they call the more general "cartoony" ... maybe calling Aion "Manga-y" will get them outta hot water?

  • ray12kray12k Member UncommonPosts: 487
    Originally posted by deathtripp

    Originally posted by Keridwen



     

     What does that mean?

    Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.

     

    Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:

     

    Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"

    'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.

    Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.

    There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!

    Are these AION images anime?

    http://img151.imageshack.us/i/aion0003j.jpg/

    http://img205.imageshack.us/i/aion0011m.jpg/

    Get over it... the guy looks gay as hell, and he does have an anime look to him. It's nice to see that you automatically assume he/she is caucasian as well.

     



     

    looks more like CGI to me. but ill try this game out if its cheap lol. or if they have a open beta. sounds better then the star wars mmo.

  • LogothXLogothX Member Posts: 245

    Its not "anime".  It's "generic" and "uninspired", like the rest of the game's design.

  • 0guz0guz Member UncommonPosts: 287

    you can make your character whatever you like so why you call anime but of course you can make anime looking toons :D

    look at this 4 page of customization these are from 2008 tho they added other things also like eye color and arm , leg lenght



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  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081

    Sorry, but NO.

     

    AION is nothing but Lineage III, MOST of the DAOC community has already tried AION (see vnboards) and already concluded it's not worth their time. ENOUGH with trying to over hype this piece of garbage.

     

     

    Origins FTW!!

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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Originally posted by xfrozenx




    I don't know about that. However; I'm doing a big review tomorrow on Aion. Started playing it today with the English patch and I'm LOVING it. Mix of Perfect World, WOW, Lineage 2 (Especially O Course), Requiem Bloodymare, Silkroad, and even a few other games. It's almost like they took 10 of the most popular games (A few not being so popular) and mixed them all together in one. It's going to be a very popular game over here in the states.  I'm going to order my collectors edition next week along with the new computer I'm building for it as well as other new games coming out.
    I'm only level 9 but based on what I've seen and how unique pvp is after level 25, I'm giving it a 8.5/10 so far. All you DAOC Vets come on over.

     

    Link it here when you're done or, better yet, put it in your blog here so that it also might end up getting news'd if its good.

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  • KeridwenKeridwen Member UncommonPosts: 58
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb


    Sorry, but NO.
     
    AION is nothing but Lineage III, MOST of the DAOC community has already tried AION (see vnboards) and already concluded it's not worth their time. ENOUGH with trying to over hype this piece of garbage.
     
     
    Origins FTW!!

     

    Simple question Mr Faded? Have you played AION? and if so, to  what level? Second simple question, where is the evidence that the DAoC community have already conlcuded its not worth their time? I doubt very much that ex DAoC players have even played AION yet.

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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Originally posted by Keridwen



    Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'.

     

    Thank you. :)

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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Keridwen



     

     What does that mean?

    Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.

     

    Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:

     

    Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"

    'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.

    Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.

    There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!

    Are these AION images anime?

    http://img151.imageshack.us/i/aion0003j.jpg/

    http://img205.imageshack.us/i/aion0011m.jpg/

    While there are many different types of anime, they all share some defining features. That is how people can tell that it's art style is very anime-ish.

    Aion looks very "asian" (for lack of better word). While looking "asian" is not a bad thing, it's just a different art style and direction,  the style does not work well in the west.

    The character graphics, while good, do not really get me excited. I am well aware of the character editor's capabilities and I do agree that it's one of the best around, although I do wish that the body sliders did more. The characters look too "clean" and most of the male features are metrosexual.

    Also, the armor and weapons top WoW in looking unrealistic. Plus the whole flight mechanic is unintuitive, restricted and simply not as fun as it is advertised to be.

    Now look, Aion is a decent game and it will do relatively well in the west. All things considered, it will probably get about the same number of subscribers as Lineage II. It will not, however, be the next WoW, DAOC, UO or any other MMO you want to compare it to. It's just not that much different from the rest of the new MMOs out there, nothing really sets it appart.

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196

    Aion is nonthing like Lineage. Been playing Lineage 2 for 4 years and played Aion Chiness and Beta. The only thing they have in common is both are Asian with Asian art styles.

  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by ray12k

    Originally posted by deathtripp

    Originally posted by Keridwen




     
     What does that mean?
    Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.

     
    Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:


     
    Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"
    'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.
    Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.
    There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!
    Are these AION images anime?
    http://img151.imageshack.us/i/aion0003j.jpg/
    http://img205.imageshack.us/i/aion0011m.jpg/

    Get over it... the guy looks gay as hell, and he does have an anime look to him. It's nice to see that you automatically assume he/she is caucasian as well.
     

     
    looks more like CGI to me. but ill try this game out if its cheap lol. or if they have a open beta. sounds better then the star wars mmo.



    Is this the first time you guys have heard about this game?
    It obviously seems that way.

    I mean, complaining about the character models is the last thing you guys should even be discussing.

    Why?

    This game has more character customization than any game Ive seen to date.

    Want to look like Obama, you can.

    Brad pitt? Done.

    That dwarf from lord of the rings, done.


    I mean really the amount of things you can customize is almost overwhelming.
    From height, body build, width of shoulders, hair colors, skin color, hair style, tattoos, facial tattoos, really the list goes on and on.


    Anyone see this? http://images.mmosite.com/news/2008/11/16/Aion_111427.jpg


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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by logangregor


     

    Originally posted by ray12k


    Originally posted by deathtripp


    Originally posted by Keridwen






     
     What does that mean?

    Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.





     

    Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:

     

     





     

    Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"

    'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.

    Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.

    There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!

    Are these AION images anime?

    http://img151.imageshack.us/i/aion0003j.jpg/

    http://img205.imageshack.us/i/aion0011m.jpg/





    Get over it... the guy looks gay as hell, and he does have an anime look to him. It's nice to see that you automatically assume he/she is caucasian as well.

     


     

     

    looks more like CGI to me. but ill try this game out if its cheap lol. or if they have a open beta. sounds better then the star wars mmo.


     



    Is this the first time you guys have heard about this game?

    It obviously seems that way.

    I mean, complaining about the character models is the last thing you guys should even be discussing.

    Why?

    This game has more character customization than any game Ive seen to date.

    Want to look like Obama, you can.

    Brad pitt? Done.

    That dwarf from lord of the rings, done.



    I mean really the amount of things you can customize is almost overwhelming.

    From height, body build, width of shoulders, hair colors, skin color, hair style, tattoos, facial tattoos, really the list goes on and on.



    Anyone see this? http://images.mmosite.com/news/2008/11/16/Aion_111427.jpg

     

    I don't see anyone complaining. What I do see is people giving reasons why they do not like a particular aspect of the game.

    I know that it can be interpreted as 'bashing your game' but there really is no need to be all up in arms over a negative comment. Especially when the comment is a personal preference.

    On the other hand, I would like to know what does being "some Caucasian" have to do with anything.

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  • tvalentinetvalentine Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,216
    Originally posted by Fadedbomb


    Sorry, but NO.
     
    AION is nothing but Lineage III



     

    have you even played the lineage games? If AION was like lineage, it would have semi ffa pvp. Not RVR crap (not a fan of rvr), the only thing lineage and aion have in common, is the graphics, and sieges. There arent even that many classes in aion as there are in Lineage 2. I wont comment on aion = DAOC since i havent played daoc. I just felt i had to correct this statement posted.

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  • Lunchbox76Lunchbox76 Member Posts: 294

    Last time checked Aion didnt have seige weapons and destructable walls and doors like doac does. Not saying Aion is bad, its just not the same as doac.

    Playing Fallen Earth.

  • XemousXemous Member Posts: 255

    1. Is the game point and click?

    2. Is there only 1 or 2 armor sets for every 10 levels?

    3. Is there real custimization and character custimiazation?

    In short, is this another lineage 2 clone?

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  • RuckupRuckup Member Posts: 111

    The ONLY thing anyone needs to know about AION is it's ran by NCSOFT, If you do not Mind BOTS, and not like WoW, BOTS that control all aspects of the game including running quest chains for them and assisting themselves with 8 man pvp parties all controlled by one person.  YOU people that never played L2 just can't understand how NCSOFT works.  HIgh Level "Hardcore" players are untouchable in most cases, they scam, cheat and run the servers. 

    Let us not forget Auto Assult and Tabula Rasha, we all saw how well NCSOFT took care of those titles.  Oh and I am SICK of seeing people say "This is NCSOFT North America, it's a different company"  Ehh hate to burst your bubble but it is not and NCSOFT always releses content to Foriegn countires prior to NA getting it and does not do anything without Koreas approval.

     

    GL Fanbois you won't last 2 months in this game.

  • KeridwenKeridwen Member UncommonPosts: 58
    Originally posted by Ruckup


    Ehh hate to burst your bubble but it is not and NCSOFT always releses content to Foriegn countires prior to NA getting it and does not do anything without Koreas approval.
     


    Not true. Are you seriously suggesting that with Guildwars and all developments that NCSOFT run everything through Korea for approval?

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  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860
    Originally posted by Lunchbox76


    Last time checked Aion didnt have seige weapons and destructable walls and doors like doac does. Not saying Aion is bad, its just not the same as doac.

     

    Aion has had siege weapons and destructable walls for a while already.

     

    And Ruckup, I doubt NCsoft has plans to close the second most popular P2P MMORPG ever released anytime soon. Asia only will keep it alive for decades.

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Played DAOC since its inception, and have played Aion, IMO the OP is actually right in many ways. The compariosns are there. What I would have said though, if you re looking for something RVR similar to DAOC, thought WAR was going to be it then try AION. Aion is closer to DAOC the WAR is by a long shot. Having said all that I personally can t wait for AIONs NA release. It has enough similarities to DAOCs end game, that it has me excited to play full time and actually give up on re subbing to DAOC every few months :)

  • Blackfire1Blackfire1 Member UncommonPosts: 116

    I've been playing DAOC sinced closed beta.   I accually stopped playing to go back to UO for a time. But DAOC gave me my fondest memories. When you leveled through all the content and there were no high level power level  spots. When you could be lv 50, make an alt, and accually SEE people doing a quest cains at a lv 23 dungeon.

     

    I don't ever to exspect a game ot giv eme that feeling again. I'll give AION a shot just like all the other games out there.

    But I'm exspecting failure to my standard.

  • vmopedvmoped Member Posts: 1,708
    Originally posted by Xemous


    1. Is the game point and click?
    The game is WASD and/or point and click. You can use one, or both.
    2. Is there only 1 or 2 armor sets for every 10 levels?
    I only played the preview weekend, but by level 10 I had seen about 4-5 sets of armor, and alot more became available after 10.
    3. Is there real custimization and character custimiazation?
    For looks most definately. As far as your character goes there is alot of customization through stigmas, manastones, and gear. Its a different system from WoW, War, etc... you do not use trees but instead enhance gear and select special powers ~ stigmas (which actually remind me of morals from WAR).
    In short, is this another lineage 2 clone?
    Played alot different to me, but this will be more of an opinion.



     

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  • logangregorlogangregor Member Posts: 1,524


    Originally posted by heartless
    Originally posted by logangregor  

    Originally posted by ray12k

    Originally posted by deathtripp

    Originally posted by Keridwen


     
     What does that mean?
    Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.



     
    Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:
     
     



     
    Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"
    'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.
    Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.
    There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!
    Are these AION images anime?
    http://img151.imageshack.us/i/aion0003j.jpg/
    http://img205.imageshack.us/i/aion0011m.jpg/



    Get over it... the guy looks gay as hell, and he does have an anime look to him. It's nice to see that you automatically assume he/she is caucasian as well.
     



     
     
    looks more like CGI to me. but ill try this game out if its cheap lol. or if they have a open beta. sounds better then the star wars mmo.



     

    Is this the first time you guys have heard about this game?
    It obviously seems that way.
    I mean, complaining about the character models is the last thing you guys should even be discussing.
    Why?
    This game has more character customization than any game Ive seen to date.
    Want to look like Obama, you can.
    Brad pitt? Done.
    That dwarf from lord of the rings, done.

    I mean really the amount of things you can customize is almost overwhelming.
    From height, body build, width of shoulders, hair colors, skin color, hair style, tattoos, facial tattoos, really the list goes on and on.

    Anyone see this? http://images.mmosite.com/news/2008/11/16/Aion_111427.jpg
     



    I don't see anyone complaining. What I do see is people giving reasons why they do not like a particular aspect of the game.
    I know that it can be interpreted as 'bashing your game' but there really is no need to be all up in arms over a negative comment. Especially when the comment is a personal preference.
    On the other hand, I would like to know what does being "some Caucasian" have to do with anything.

    I am not all up in arms about anything, it just seems completely stupid for so many of the uninformed posters to pick on ONE avatar repeatedly when you can look as "MANLY" or fem as you want.

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  • WintersbiteWintersbite Member Posts: 146
    Originally posted by Keridwen




    Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue.
     

     

    I actually stopped reading there. One thing I like about the good old DAoC was the grind, the groups you used to form to farm mobs, not the repetiveness but the actual bond you formed with members of your own realm.

    There's no one game out today that had a stronger community and player bond than DAoC.

  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679
    Originally posted by Wintersbite

    Originally posted by Keridwen




    Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue.
     

     

    I actually stopped reading there. One thing I like about the good old DAoC was the grind, the groups you used to form to farm mobs, not the repetiveness but the actual bond you formed with members of your own realm.

    There's no one game out today that had a stronger community and player bond than DAoC.

     

    Whilst Aion doesn't force grouping, a lot of the quests and areas gravitate towards grouping post 20, so you may not see the same grind scenario of DAoC but you should still see plenty of PvE grouping.

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