I think people need to relax and wait and see until a full review of the combat system is done by an independent site. Until then we don't really know how it plays and alot changes between now (pre-beta) and launch. I think there's too many people jumping to conclusions and accusing Masthead studios of raping their pet cat.
If the combat system is similar to TR where you fire with the left mouse button as much as you like (normal attack no cooldown) then fire off specials with a 1-9 key or whatever key you have mapped (cooldown), then good. The only thing they really had nailed down in TR was the combat system in my opinion!
As for now I don't see any problem with disscussing it and making guesses on the subject, but declaring it sucks because this is how combat will be in ER is a bit silly. No-one is really certain and it's not like this is a month before release and we've seen tons of videos and reviews. I suggest we keep it to if the system is like this ...... or it looks like it might be .... until then you're simply getting your knickers in a twist over a percieved mechanic that may not exist.
And did not Koster say in the electronic bible "Let he who hath played Beta or a Demo cast the first flame!"?
Amen
Agricola
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It's probably better if they don't make videos like this right now....what they need to do is make a game trailer showing off ER at it's highest potential....either that or nothing at all....=/
I agree with you 100% ... that video didnt help them IMHO.
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Think I'll hold out for Fallen Earth...
Drev
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That fight looked boring and skilless. The atrocious animation can be forgiven due to the game's beta state; unfortunately I doubt the combat system will fundamentally change at this point. With combat that shitty the devs should probably drop PvP entirely, make sure the game has a ridiculous grind, and publish a localized version in Korea complete with a cash shop. That's what a lot of other MMOs with similar 'gameplay' do, but at least some of them have the dignity not to demand a monthly fee.
That is a laughably bad video, regardless of the stage of development it's taken from. But regardless of the amusingly bad animations and bland, washed out textures (all hail the one-size-fits-all excuse of closed beta), I genuinely thought this was going to be an FPS. It isn't so it's plummeted down my watch-list.
The ruptured capillaries in your nose belie the clarity of your wisdom.
That is a laughably bad video, regardless of the stage of development it's taken from. But regardless of the amusingly bad animations and bland, washed out textures (all hail the one-size-fits-all excuse of closed beta), I genuinely thought this was going to be an FPS. It isn't so it's plummeted down my watch-list.
Nahh Even I knew this wouldn't be a Fps and I read maybe two lines of text about the game prior to a couple weeks ago.
The combat is going to be similar to old AO(speed of combat), I just hope they fix up the animations and shorten cooldown timers.
At it's worst Fallen Earth's combat system is 10X better than this, plus the game actually look, play and feel like Fallout Online without the VATS system. Guns have no cool downs, but your abilities like healing do.
Earthrise on the other hand looks like a Korean version of the apocalypse with a TR slant. Without a twitch FPS based system this game fails, just like TR.
I was trying to decide between the two but that vid really cleared things up.
yeah this video is way old, the combat system has been redone and reworked. i clicked and noticed wait this i have seen this video already. Hey OP please double check your research on videos ok buddy
yeah this video is way old, the combat system has been redone and reworked. i clicked and noticed wait this i have seen this video already. Hey OP please double check your research on videos ok buddy
OP posted this vid 4/10/09. How about you check your facts before you flex your e-nuts.
Wow . .. thanks to this video I will never try this game.
The game will obviously not be twitch-based enough for my taste.
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Did you really need to bump a 16 month old video thread with your opinion? Why don't you wait till we some a more finalized form of combat, and no, it likely still wont be up to your twitch based expectations.
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I think people need to relax and wait and see until a full review of the combat system is done by an independent site. Until then we don't really know how it plays and alot changes between now (pre-beta) and launch. I think there's too many people jumping to conclusions and accusing Masthead studios of raping their pet cat.
If the combat system is similar to TR where you fire with the left mouse button as much as you like (normal attack no cooldown) then fire off specials with a 1-9 key or whatever key you have mapped (cooldown), then good. The only thing they really had nailed down in TR was the combat system in my opinion!
As for now I don't see any problem with disscussing it and making guesses on the subject, but declaring it sucks because this is how combat will be in ER is a bit silly. No-one is really certain and it's not like this is a month before release and we've seen tons of videos and reviews. I suggest we keep it to if the system is like this ...... or it looks like it might be .... until then you're simply getting your knickers in a twist over a percieved mechanic that may not exist.
And did not Koster say in the electronic bible "Let he who hath played Beta or a Demo cast the first flame!"?
Amen
Agricola
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
I agree with you 100% ... that video didnt help them IMHO.
game looks good to me i dunno wat you all are QQing about
Ah, another "its still in beta!" moment.
All hail the Miracle Build! It will fix everything AND cure cancer, too.
Think I'll hold out for Fallen Earth...
Drev
"If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let their be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it."
-Luke McKinney, The 7 Biggest Dick Moves in the History of Online Gaming
"In the end, SWG may have been more potential and promise than fulfilled expectation. But I'd rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
-Raph Koster
That fight looked boring and skilless. The atrocious animation can be forgiven due to the game's beta state; unfortunately I doubt the combat system will fundamentally change at this point. With combat that shitty the devs should probably drop PvP entirely, make sure the game has a ridiculous grind, and publish a localized version in Korea complete with a cash shop. That's what a lot of other MMOs with similar 'gameplay' do, but at least some of them have the dignity not to demand a monthly fee.
sorry to all the ER fans but this video made me almost laugh , very bad animations i know this is beta but still combat does not look smooth at all .
back to the drawing board i guess . . .
After watching the video. Fail... This game is off my watch list of upcoming mmos.
Work in progress.
They need to tighten up animations, decrease shot cooldown and it should be fine.
I don't know who the genius was who decided to release combat vid this early in development.
Now I have to see a hundred threads saying ER will sux even though that looked like pre-alpha combat.
2009 my ass Earthrise wont be ready until late 2010 atleast.
Dec 2010 or Q1 2011
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
That is a laughably bad video, regardless of the stage of development it's taken from. But regardless of the amusingly bad animations and bland, washed out textures (all hail the one-size-fits-all excuse of closed beta), I genuinely thought this was going to be an FPS. It isn't so it's plummeted down my watch-list.
The ruptured capillaries in your nose belie the clarity of your wisdom.
Nahh Even I knew this wouldn't be a Fps and I read maybe two lines of text about the game prior to a couple weeks ago.
The combat is going to be similar to old AO(speed of combat), I just hope they fix up the animations and shorten cooldown timers.
Playing: EvE, Ryzom
Wow, and I mean wow!
At it's worst Fallen Earth's combat system is 10X better than this, plus the game actually look, play and feel like Fallout Online without the VATS system. Guns have no cool downs, but your abilities like healing do.
Earthrise on the other hand looks like a Korean version of the apocalypse with a TR slant. Without a twitch FPS based system this game fails, just like TR.
I was trying to decide between the two but that vid really cleared things up.
Looks okay.
ER has much smoother combat now even though it still similar to old AO combat.
If youw ant FPS combat DF and FE are for you.
PLaying: EvE, Ryzom
Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum
Please do not look at this video anymore. It is no longer valid as the aiming system has been changed. Aiming is much different now.
yeah this video is way old, the combat system has been redone and reworked. i clicked and noticed wait this i have seen this video already. Hey OP please double check your research on videos ok buddy
IN THE FACE!
OP posted this vid 4/10/09. How about you check your facts before you flex your e-nuts.
we all make mistakes
IN THE FACE!
Np!
And as they said, they are remaking the combat system... (thank god) ... as well as fixing the animations... (again, thank god)
Exactly
Looking past a bit of lag/poor animation, I love the style and quality of the graphics.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Just terrible...
And this is a vid thats downloadable on their homepage ?
Once again I must remind everyone that this video is no longer valid as the aiming system has been changed. Aiming is much different now.
Wow . .. thanks to this video I will never try this game.
The game will obviously not be twitch-based enough for my taste.
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Did you really need to bump a 16 month old video thread with your opinion? Why don't you wait till we some a more finalized form of combat, and no, it likely still wont be up to your twitch based expectations.
Earthrise Targeting and Combat Video
2009-04-09
I hope this is the final bump...
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