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GOLD SPAMMERS?? How to stop them or slow them down!!
jrmagicboy
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GOLD SPAMMER ?? How to Stop them or slow them down alot.
Hey look,
It like this I hate gold spammer more then anything in the world. I know alot people that well quit a game if there whisper 100 times aday by gold spammer.
So I try to come up with way to slow them down. Your never going to Stop them.
1. All trial Accounts can only whisper people that has them on there friends list. (If you invite your friend to the game you should know there game name)
2. Searching for: People, Raids, Groups, Zone, Server what ever else.
Searching for people only useable at some kind of level. Like lvl 10 or so.
Why? gold spammer don't like to level up there toons.
If you go to any online game and look at there Gold spammer levels there all ways lvl 1
Make a note in the Rules. If a Gold spammer gets Reported for spamming players and the GMs look up there Account and Find your message the gold spammer The names on the Search list. your Account is also ban.
This may not Stop the Gold spammer but it sure would slow them down Alot.
I well keep think of new way to Slow this gold spammer LOSER down. this is just a new idea I come up with. Good luck
No I don't mean gold farmers. I mean Gold Spammers the gold spammers that Harass players by whispring them in game tell them to go buy gold at there website.
A sure fire way to stop gold farmers and spammers is for little kids not to buy gold in the frist place. I've never played a game where you had to buy gold.
If a GM of MMORPG.com reads this please let all the beta games know about this. I was think this would be the easyest way for me to get this idea out there. Thanks and Good luck!!!
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Even in Atlantica OBT there are a lot of gold spammers. And I believe that you can slow them down by active GM monitoring. The players have to play a part too. Anyone can put on a "report" button in their game, how about a direct link telling the GMs that player so and so is spamming gold. A small level check will do, for these ppl dont earn exp very often.
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Has a gold spammer report. Right click on the players name. Click Report gold spammer. But see alot people use that just to ignore the player in the game.
And if a player has the rights to mute someone in chat thay could just mute anyone thay don't like. Gold spammers or not.
And see that still don't fix the GOLD SPAMMERs I can make up a 100 names aday. each time I am going to spam you 1 time before you mute me. Making up 100 names aday
That would be you getting 100 whispers by Gold Spammers a day.
The game can not give Players the rights to ban them Accounts.
That would shut the game down. Frist person you don't like and you ban them. I don't think thay would be coming back to the game. where anyone can ban them for anything and everything.
I am like the Chameleon. I seek the game that I cannot conquer. I dodge; I change; I battle the unknown. I am the phantom - dark and strong.
One solution could be to give players the ability to moderate the chat themselves.
Although it'd have to be carefully monitored to prevent abuse, maybe something like 10 reports of a player within 30 seconds would mute that player for 15minutes.
Maybe only allowing active players to participate in the moderation could prevent abuse (Preventing using bots and such to abuse the feature to harass non-offending players)
GM's setting up watchlists for key phrases and words would probably be the best idea though, and the easiest to impliment, although my experiance of MMOs so far, this either hasnt been considered, or dosent work
As suggested above:
*personal text filtering blocking.
*block button.
*Once GM verifies account as gold spammer = invisible-MUTE the entire ACCOUNT. (Do NOT delete it else they will make another one) Now spammer can spam all he wants thinking players are listening to all his spam/mails, but in reality they are muted but he wont know it. Good way to "contain" a lot of them in a silence chamber of sorts.
* Log IP of verified spammer. Keep a database of IPs. If 5 different (or subsequent) account are from same IP. Ban the IP. Since these days its mostly DSL, IP's tend to be relatively static in about half the world. Now if IP is dynamic - then what is the probability that a normal person who is assigned the same IP *will* also be flagged as spammer? Wont happen unless they too spam for gold. Has to happen 5x times to be banned for say 1 month.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Okay, you posted this on the wrong board.
This board is for OPEN BETA DISCUSSIONS. Questions about open betas, open beta games, etc etc. I've had to sit by and watch people forget that fact time and time again. Read which board you're in before posting, -please-.
Gold farmers will never go away because people will keep buying gold, it gives them an edge.
Want to stop gold farmers? Stop playing MMORPGs. That'll stop them.
As a WOW player I can say at least for myself that I will report every spammer i find out there. Best way though is also the creative way they come up with names (Such as "whjklkdfsg" or "sdddjklphmr") {Ahh button mashing}
I do think the mute would be a great tool ... Funny thing is i know real players with viable accounts I would mute. But I think that is anyone were to get say 10 reports in 30 sec that the Mute be automatic for 30 min. That way you would be effected for a mere 30 sec.
Sad thing is that the Gold Spammers are simply advertising, really anoying advertising, but still that is what they do. Eliminate the need for the service you kill the need for advertising.
That is the best solution I've heard yet. Keep in mind, gold spammers also contribute to the company's bottom line. So they are probably not too eager to remove people that are increasing their revenue - despite what they might say to the general public.
I agree. Besides whatever a company does to stop them they will eventually find a way out. They will sell the gold no matter what. Thats like their source of income, so cant really blame them.
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I like the idea of auto filtering out gold spam phrases. In the beginning it wouldn't be effective. But after the filter list becomes say, 500 different phrases are filtered out... it would become increasingly tough to properly communicate with the player you are spamming. If you start writing in l33t, you will lose revenue. Autofiltering words like COM, MMO, GOLD won't happen, well because they are common. You need to filter out the phrases they are using. It should be done similar to how Antivirus works, you get updated definitions on what a virus is occassionally. Here you'd get an updated list on what a spam message phrase can be.
These guys don't contribute to revenue, they detract from it, people quit from games more from gold spammers than any other activity. It is dispised, it's spam and you can't hide from it unless the MMO company gives you the tools to do so. Antispam tools.
This is how the tool would work.
1. Player A gets a spam message, he reports the message as spam (right click on the text in the chat window)
2. GM's get the alert, they verify it is spam, invisible mute the spammer, don't ban or they'll catch on quicker, add the phrase to the filter list.
3. Phrase is added to the filter list. Any spambot that uses that exact phrase will be invisible muted.
By Invisible Muted, it means the player is muted so as they can still send whispers, but the recieving player will not recieve them. Since gold spammers don't expect replies (other than death threats occassionally), it will be harder to pick up.
AND THE ALTERNATIVE METHOD.
I hope MMO's migrate more towards voice chatting in the near future. Then we will hear spamming voice messages in town from some random chinese accent telling us to go buy gold. Haha.
Heh, they aren't that stupid though. Can't IP ban them because they're on a proxy. You can just ban the account, but they buy those with in-game gold. But banning them is the best way really. The gold-sellers in Guild Wars can't sell gold anymore, because they're stuck with buying accounts. And by the time they bought one, they already got banned...
On a side note; they're pathetic. They offer 300k-900k for an account... While you can't carry more than 100k on a single character. I smell scamming!
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What about people stop buying that gold? And start playing the game as its meant to be, a roleplaying game......
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I like the idea of auto filtering out gold spam phrases. In the beginning it wouldn't be effective. But after the filter list becomes say, 500 different phrases are filtered out... it would become increasingly tough to properly communicate with the player you are spamming. If you start writing in l33t, you will lose revenue. Autofiltering words like COM, MMO, GOLD won't happen, well because they are common. You need to filter out the phrases they are using. It should be done similar to how Antivirus works, you get updated definitions on what a virus is occassionally. Here you'd get an updated list on what a spam message phrase can be.
These guys don't contribute to revenue, they detract from it, people quit from games more from gold spammers than any other activity. It is dispised, it's spam and you can't hide from it unless the MMO company gives you the tools to do so. Antispam tools.
This is how the tool would work.
1. Player A gets a spam message, he reports the message as spam (right click on the text in the chat window)
2. GM's get the alert, they verify it is spam, invisible mute the spammer, don't ban or they'll catch on quicker, add the phrase to the filter list.
3. Phrase is added to the filter list. Any spambot that uses that exact phrase will be invisible muted.
By Invisible Muted, it means the player is muted so as they can still send whispers, but the recieving player will not recieve them. Since gold spammers don't expect replies (other than death threats occassionally), it will be harder to pick up.
AND THE ALTERNATIVE METHOD.
I hope MMO's migrate more towards voice chatting in the near future. Then we will hear spamming voice messages in town from some random chinese accent telling us to go buy gold. Haha.
Ok, I agree, but also you could add a boolean type interface that (running client side of course) would look for common spam words like MMO, GOLD, BUY, ".COM" etc. AND other not so common words like BEST OFFER and USD, if they are found it would mute the person and add the words used to a list with values showing how common words are.
This way no matter how that adapt, we will be one step ahead
Just like with regular spam, text based filtering doesn't help that much, neither does filtering based on character name.
First thing needed is a company that really cares about stopping goldselling and just doesn't see them as additional sources of revenue. Then ingame reporting tools making it easy to report any spam sent and sending the ingame mail/chatlog with ads to the GM. As with spam mail, IP-blocking Asia has been very successful on the games that have implemented it.
Actaully stopping or filtering trial accounts won't help much, in both of the games Iactively play at the moment at least 50% of gold spam is sent from nontrial accounts. But then reporting and catching a seller with a real sub hurts them financially.
In the games I play, I woulds really love to see both caught goldsellers and their clients hanged in public place every now and then, and like UO cheaters, their houses and other property burned etc... At my viewpoint not only the sellers should be punished, but the buyers should be punished as well.
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A player cannot talk in General or Zone Channel until they reach lvl 10.
In this way Gold sellers have to spend 5 hours of game just to spam the mesage few minutes before getting the account deleted.
They don't like leveling their "mules", in particular when they will be erased after they start spamming.
There is no real need to talk in General during the early levels, they are the most solo levels of any game usually, so don't think it will limit the rights of a legitimate player.
But people do ask the most questions in the beginning of the game!
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Stop buying...Problem fixed.
Sadly, in a recent poll here, quite alot of people bought gold.... some of wich also complains about gold spammers, botters and whatnot....
Yup, as long as there are idiots buying virtual money with real money, there'll be gold sellers... We can only hope the current economic crisis will let people think about how they spent their money.
Do they really want to waste it on buying virtual money?...
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I personally do not know the big deal with smappers, yeah sure they are annoying as hell but guess what? I figure that if I am an old enough person to fix my own breakfast and cross the street without an adult..I can kit that lil "x" button to close the private msgs they send me and delete the in game mail they send me. Takes a sec, 5 if ur lagging. I get crazy telemarketer calls that have blocked numbers but you dont see me going nuts screaming on forums about how they are bringing down the telephone industry as we speak! Damn just ignore crap and take it easy, I do not know about your guys bu I have enough crap in my life to be pissed off about and to stress and worry over without being pissed at someone typing a msg to ppl bout a site. Crap I get like 9 of those per facebook page I visit.
Just my two cents, not trying to offend anyone, just want you guys to have less stress.
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I think a good idea would be to give paying veteran subscribers the ability to publically mute other low level players. As in a player who played for 4 months or so and has an active sub can completely make a low level player unable to communicate.
this would make it a whole lot harder for a gold seller to advertise and make it not worthwhile
i forgot to mention that punishment for abusing the mute function (as in using it on a non-gold seller) would have to be extremely harsh (as in a month account suspension and removal of mute ability) to prevent abuse