My guess why he cares so much.... keep in mind that this is a TOTAL guess.
I think he probably plays WoW and feels a little threatened by this game. He has put so much time and energy into this thread but the time and energy put into this thread is miniscule compared to the tine and energy he has put into WoW. If this game hits huge... which I think it will.... Then the time and energy he has put into his WoW becomes obselete. Maybe this is a desperate attempt to get people to not try the game all together. No game lasts forever... WoW will fall one day. Darkfall may not be the reason but a game will inevitably take the players attention. I think it is funny how he mocks unfounded optimism but he is the exact opposite. He is blind pessimism. Remember Sir... this is just a game. I want to have fun. I need not analyze the specs and disect the mechanics to enjoy myself. I simply need to do what games were intended to do... Play. -Love each day-
Why is it when someone who had interest in the game and then loses it does so because hes a WoW player?
I am guessing your either new to story of Darkfall or just never bothered reading the OP.
The point of his post was that any and all news that comes from AV about the game comes from one source: Tasos, and if you try to follow everything he has said or promised, you see a pattern of BS. The post in no way tells you not to play the game, its just a history lesson of the practices behind it.
I just love how its always some fan of the game that has to automatically call someone with some form of skepticism a WoW player/ WoW kiddie. If thats your best guess as to why someone would feel skeptical of a game, Its kinda sad really.
My feedback on his thread was his deliberate attempt to slander the game. A reporters job is to simply report current events but it is still possible to put your own spin on things even if you speak only of facts. That is exactly what he did. My suggestion is to simply play the game then let actual play determine what you choose to post your thread on. Nobody puts this much time and energy into a thread without some type of agenda. I am just guessing what his agenda is. I may be off... but there is a purpose... Who knows. Lets just play!!!!
Originally posted by Bigdavo To every poster here attacking the poster and not the post, each and every single one of you is fucking pathetic. If you have zero defense and absolutely nothing intelligent to say than keep your senseless tripe to yourself and grow a pair of balls. If you couldn't be assed reading because your porno is just about buffered then get the hell off, your post has no relevance to a thread if it doesn't pertain to the post. Is this all you guys can come up with in the face of real solid criticism, turning a blind eye and simply lashing out at the poster. I have not seen a single one of you shore up the guts to post any noteworthy defense. Absolutely pathetic.
PS: Thank you for the read, there were facts there that I never even knew about.
You didn't add anything to the post by posting this. So who's pathetic now?
@OP Yes, the game is delayed, so what? Those of us who wants a Ultima Online game we don't care if we wait.
Don't care if Tasos lie or deceit. As long as the end product is of what I(Yes, me... not _YOU_) expected. I don't care if you don't like the game, I only care if _I_ like the game.
So stop trolling these boards, everybody knows that releases are being postponed into oblivion...
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Originally posted by loxleynew This is probabley the best post ever on these forums to date.
Well thank you. I appreciate your nice comment. It sure beats all the dozens of apple cores and other trash talk thrown at me since I posted it yesterday. :-)
Lets compare Darkfall to Star Wars Galaxies. Both games started development around the same time. SWG launched 5.5 years ago. SWG had a budget of 30 million dollars.
Its reasonable to assume then that Darkfall wont have half the content that SWG did. SWG had a large staff of over 100 developers with some of the best legendary minds around developing it. Plus more than twice the funding which was spent over a lot less years.
Course some of the fanbois will counter argue that Darkfall doesnt need content. Apparently its supposed to be an empty world devoid of mobs and npc's
they don't even have the server capacity to let everyone play at release. They are talking about a staged release because their budget is so low. if that doesn't sound like a lack of foresight i don't know what does.
So this is the future isnt it? This is the next big mmorpg for hardcore players.
And I dont mean Darkfall, i mean FORUMS.
Reading a bit now and then I realize theres no space for hardcore players on the mmorpg industry so you become bored and start PVPing here,on the forums.
This is it ,I guess.No more player full loot,no more skills grinding.....the next big mmorpg will be just a Forum where people can fight each other.
Hopefully theres no subscription fee for this "game" nor it is needed any gear nor skills.You just have to speak english( or not,like me,lol) and attack every other post that is not supporting your reasoning.
Well sounds funny,i must admit,but now some questions come into mind:
Can we make pvp forums guild here? Does mmoprpg.com offer some kind of agrupation tool?(I dont wanna bash one of my guys).
Can we "conquer" forums? Once every enemy is humilliated and their opinions been laugh off...do we own the forum?
Is there friendly fire?
Is there any kind of pvp rewards? (aside from the simple pleasure of been and behave like an "too much time to lose smartass")
"My hope is that this collection of facts and statements with the provided sources and links to them will aid in discussions and concerns about the upcoming launch of Darkfall Online. Obviously, I simply do not have the time to go back over all the years and find every statement made by Tasos Flambouras or Aventurine that could be taken as deceitful, vague, or misleading. If you want to add to what I have given here, please feel free to add as the way I see it, the more information - the better... especially when we are talking about a game with as long a history, and as much skepticism as Darkfall certainly has."
^OP
Look, are you in the Beta yes or no? In fact dont even answer that, cause its a NDA violation. Lets get hypothetical though...lets assume you are in beta. If you were, you would know exactly whats in the game, which features are in it, and all the stuff these kids crying over with "vaporware" signs and pitchforks.
If you are not in beta, then you are just making way too many assumptions and getting way too worked up over it. ITS A GAME FOR FKSAKE. Wait till the NDA lifts, you can get all the first hand info you want. Wait till the game launches, then test it for yourself, or wait for the reviews. Look, this is no different than any other game out there. You might call them lies because they do not show you everything you want to see, but thats just illogical.
World of Warcraft was the same way. All Bliz gave were some concept art drawings and thats it... then once the Open Beta hit everyone knew about it. In fact, WoW still doesnt have player housing like they said, areas in the game are still not implimented, features from beta still never put back in. Oh well.
The point is, the OP is making a big scene over nothing. I personally do not think hes in beta, or else he wouldnt be using up way too much of his imagination with what will be in the game or not. Like any video game, if you are not sure, then dont buy it right away. Wait and see. Its that simple. You can say "lie this" and "lies there", but without actual evidence or first hand knowlege, you might as well be the liar. No one is lying really. Adventurine is trying to put in as many "working" features as they can into the game, then they will launch it. Every MMORPG has done the SAME THING.
DF's approach is a bit different than the rest, but they are an indy development company. Their marketing approach can be whatever the hell they want it to be.
"My hope is that this collection of facts and statements with the provided sources and links to them will aid in discussions and concerns about the upcoming launch of Darkfall Online. Obviously, I simply do not have the time to go back over all the years and find every statement made by Tasos Flambouras or Aventurine that could be taken as deceitful, vague, or misleading. If you want to add to what I have given here, please feel free to add as the way I see it, the more information - the better... especially when we are talking about a game with as long a history, and as much skepticism as Darkfall certainly has." ^OP
Look, are you in the Beta yes or no? In fact dont even answer that, cause its a NDA violation. Lets get hypothetical though...lets assume you are in beta. If you were, you would know exactly whats in the game, which features are in it, and all the stuff these kids crying over with "vaporware" signs and pitchforks. If you are not in beta, then you are just making way too many assumptions and getting way too worked up over it. ITS A GAME FOR FKSAKE. Wait till the NDA lifts, you can get all the first hand info you want. Wait till the game launches, then test it for yourself, or wait for the reviews. Look, this is no different than any other game out there. You might call them lies because they do not show you everything you want to see, but thats just illogical. World of Warcraft was the same way. All Bliz gave were some concept art drawings and thats it... then once the Open Beta hit everyone knew about it. In fact, WoW still doesnt have player housing like they said, areas in the game are still not implimented, features from beta still never put back in. Oh well. The point is, the OP is making a big scene over nothing. I personally do not think hes in beta, or else he wouldnt be using up way too much of his imagination with what will be in the game or not. Like any video game, if you are not sure, then dont buy it right away. Wait and see. Its that simple. You can say "lie this" and "lies there", but without actual evidence or first hand knowlege, you might as well be the liar. No one is lying really. Adventurine is trying to put in as many "working" features as they can into the game, then they will launch it. Every MMORPG has done the SAME THING. DF's approach is a bit different than the rest, but they are an indy development company. Their marketing approach can be whatever the hell they want it to be.
Blizzard said WoW would have player housing? When was this? I was in the beta and I don't recall that ever being said.
One of EQ2's "selling points" was their player housing, as I recall. Not that this has anything to do with Darkfall, because we all know that everything that Tasos has stated will be in game, will of course, at some point be in game. But I'm just curious as to the statement that Blizzard said they'd have player housing, because I don't recall that.
But I have to disagree with you on "every MMORPG has done the SAME THING." Every MMORPG has not had 8 years of promises that consistently got delayed, pushed back, or all together ignored that they even MADE a comment about "beta is ready to begin" years before....etc.....I'm not gonna get in to the history of Darkfall.....you can READ it in the OP's post, but NO....that is NOT the history of EVERY MMORPG, not even close. Name ONE, just ONE, MMO that can compete with that long string of BS from the developer strung on through years and years with no fruit to be shown for it. Go ahead....name one (besides Dark and Light). More on point....name one SUCCESSFUL MMO that did that, or has that history.
Blizzard said WoW would have player housing? When was this? I was in the beta and I don't recall that ever being said.
I was in the beta as well, and i can remember there was talk of instanced housing. But it was all very vague.
*googletime*
posted 2004-12-14 Caydiem: "Housing is a huge feature with a lot of dedicated time needed. While we definitely want to do housing, and it is something 'on the list', it's not a 'soon after release' feature. It's more of an 'on the horizon' feature.
Player housing in World of Warcraft was a topic that was tossed around by beta testers and the devs clearly had little to no interest in the concept. Anyone who thought otherwise is naive.
Well I probably fall in the category of hopeful but very skeptical (no I won't be pre-ordering or even playing until 3-6 months after release, if that) but the biggest red flag for me in the OP is this one:
ESTIMATED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: "We’ve recently simulated large battles and it seems that a single-core processor will be sufficient. 200 vs 200 battles produce between 30 to 60 FPS. When running alone in the wilderness, FPS can shoot to as high as 170-200. This will be further improved once optimizations has been done. Our main concern is to be able to run large battles smoothly."
So this small-time company that has no other game design experience and on a minimum budget is going to pull off what no other MMORPG has ever been able to accomplish. 200 vs 200 battles with 30 to 60 FPS on a single-core processor? In all honesty, does anyone think that will be the case?
To every poster here attacking the poster and not the post, each and every single one of you is fucking pathetic. If you have zero defense and absolutely nothing intelligent to say than keep your senseless tripe to yourself and grow a pair of balls. If you couldn't be assed reading because your porno is just about buffered then get the hell off, your post has no relevance to a thread if it doesn't pertain to the post. Is this all you guys can come up with in the face of real solid criticism, turning a blind eye and simply lashing out at the poster. I have not seen a single one of you shore up the guts to post any noteworthy defense. Absolutely pathetic.
PS: Thank you for the read, there were facts there that I never even knew about.
Haha. Poor guy logged on just to post this.
In all seriousness though, yes OP your post had facts, and yes they carry some weight, but its clear that Darkfall is in the final stages, assuming you believe every "fact" that you read. There's enough beta leaks and new info around that points to "RELEASE IS SOON". Past this information, I don't care. I'll leave the digging and scrounging of info to guys like you with nothing better to do.
Hearsay from "beta testers" does not necissarily count as FACT in my book. Beta leaks can usually go either way...I mean look at some of the old leaks for Vanguard, or AoC. I mean crap, I remember people saying AoC was the second coming of christ, and then it dropped and it was a turd. So really I wouldn't classify anything some random 3rd party says as anything but speculation.
And "Release is soon" is something that has been repeated by Tasos for the past 8 years so I'd also take that with a grain of salt.
Just my 2 cents, please don't take this as an attack on you, just some perspective.
Hearsay from "beta testers" does not necissarily count as FACT in my book. Beta leaks can usually go either way...I mean look at some of the old leaks for Vanguard, or AoC. I mean crap, I remember people saying AoC was the second coming of christ, and then it dropped and it was a turd. So really I wouldn't classify anything some random 3rd party says as anything but speculation. And "Release is soon" is something that has been repeated by Tasos for the past 8 years so I'd also take that with a grain of salt. Just my 2 cents, please don't take this as an attack on you, just some perspective.
I agree, but you have to remember in the case of AoC's beta, it was confined to the tortage area which is where they obviously spent most of their time. I think a game like this is going to be very subjective on whether you like it or not. It has a lot more in common with the older MMOs than the newer ones. Some people never played those old games, so they don't really understand why people have been craving that type of experience as of late.
Originally posted by Sixpax Well I probably fall in the category of hopeful but very skeptical (no I won't be pre-ordering or even playing until 3-6 months after release, if that) but the biggest red flag for me in the OP is this one: ESTIMATED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: "Weve recently simulated large battles and it seems that a single-core processor will be sufficient. 200 vs 200 battles produce between 30 to 60 FPS. When running alone in the wilderness, FPS can shoot to as high as 170-200. This will be further improved once optimizations has been done. Our main concern is to be able to run large battles smoothly." So this small-time company that has no other game design experience and on a minimum budget is going to pull off what no other MMORPG has ever been able to accomplish. 200 vs 200 battles with 30 to 60 FPS on a single-core processor? In all honesty, does anyone think that will be the case?
I agree 100%. I had read something about Tasos saying some nonsense about 200 vs 200 wars on old PCs or something here on the forums, and didn't know how true it actually was until I actually found that exact quote in a little research, so of course I included it in my OP.
That was probably the most ridiculous thing I think Tasos stated from my hour or so of research. Can you imagine trying to program a client that would support 400 online players on the screen at once each casting spells and doing attacks and handling that much collision data, user input checks, user variables, and all the literally billions of different variables it would have to update simultaneously on a single core processor?!?? Tasos talking that crap makes me remember going to work about 10 years ago in the fall and some kid on break telling a bunch of us guys that he shot a deer when hunting that weighed 12,500 pounds AFTER gutting it, rotf. Actually, I think a 12,500 pound deer gutted is probably more realistic, hehe.
The most amusing thing he said was I believe from that same link where he said there was some kinda plans for a Xbox 360 version after the PC release of Darkfall. LOL. I chuckled at that one, and said to myself, "Dude, you need to worry about actually releasing a stable PC version before the year 2015 first before you even think for a second about a console version" lol.
That was also new, the whole 360 plans. I had never heard or read that before, and I think a couple of others here have stated that was news to them as well. ..I hope that my posting that link didn't cause any fans to rush out and buy an Xbox 360 just to wait on the release of "Darkfall" on the 360! - Never thought about that. Hehe.
He also mentioned gamers needing a 6600GT or equivalent to run it. No doubt those with top end PCs ,eg,owners of 8600GS with 1gig ram will be getting well over 200fps.
Originally posted by jimsmith08 He also mentioned gamers needing a 6600GT or equivalent to run it. No doubt those with top end PCs ,eg,owners of 8600GS with 1gig ram will be getting well over 200fps.
ROTF, wonder what I would get with my Intel E8400 Dual Core CPU, 9800XT Video Card, and 4 GB of RAM? Hell, I'll probably be able to see that 200 vs 200 battles at about 300 fps and run by myself through the forest at 1000 fps or so! - and remember, that's BEFORE they improve it with optimizations! {chuckles}
He also mentioned gamers needing a 6600GT or equivalent to run it. No doubt those with top end PCs ,eg,owners of 8600GS with 1gig ram will be getting well over 200fps.
ROTF, wonder what I would get with my Intel E8400 Dual Core CPU, 9800XT Video Card, and 4 GB of RAM? Hell, I'll probably be able to see that 200 vs 200 battles at about 300 fps and run by myself through the forest at 1000 fps or so! - and remember, that's BEFORE they improve it with optimizations! {chuckles}
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I'd be in the same boat...Except I'd have 1010 FPS while running through the forest in my loincloth. 9800GTX+ ftw :P
Honestly though, I think the game will pull a Vanguard and not be playable at release, even on high-end machines.
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@ the person that commented on DF's budget. You compared thier budget to that of SWG, or SOE and Lucas Arts.
Are you serious?
I think a lot of people completely lose sight of the fact that DF is being developed by an indy dev. group.
I'd like to see some of you go out and get 13 million from somone to make a game. Bunch of armchair developers who have no idea what they're talking about. Give it a rest already. Find a game to play in the mean time.
Just about every post here, from the OP to the both the haters and the fans is turning into one giant lawlfest.
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Why is it when someone who had interest in the game and then loses it does so because hes a WoW player?
I am guessing your either new to story of Darkfall or just never bothered reading the OP.
The point of his post was that any and all news that comes from AV about the game comes from one source: Tasos, and if you try to follow everything he has said or promised, you see a pattern of BS. The post in no way tells you not to play the game, its just a history lesson of the practices behind it.
I just love how its always some fan of the game that has to automatically call someone with some form of skepticism a WoW player/ WoW kiddie. If thats your best guess as to why someone would feel skeptical of a game, Its kinda sad really.
My feedback on his thread was his deliberate attempt to slander the game. A reporters job is to simply report current events but it is still possible to put your own spin on things even if you speak only of facts. That is exactly what he did. My suggestion is to simply play the game then let actual play determine what you choose to post your thread on. Nobody puts this much time and energy into a thread without some type of agenda. I am just guessing what his agenda is. I may be off... but there is a purpose... Who knows. Lets just play!!!!
You didn't add anything to the post by posting this. So who's pathetic now?
@OP
Yes, the game is delayed, so what? Those of us who wants a Ultima Online game we don't care if we wait.
Don't care if Tasos lie or deceit. As long as the end product is of what I(Yes, me... not _YOU_) expected. I don't care if you don't like the game, I only care if _I_ like the game.
So stop trolling these boards, everybody knows that releases are being postponed into oblivion...
You didn't spot the sarcasm? lmao
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Great post, but, boy, does it fall on a lot of deaf, desperate ears.
doesnt their budget concern anyone else ?
13 million dollars isnt very much for an MMO.
Lets compare Darkfall to Star Wars Galaxies. Both games started development around the same time. SWG launched 5.5 years ago. SWG had a budget of 30 million dollars.
Its reasonable to assume then that Darkfall wont have half the content that SWG did. SWG had a large staff of over 100 developers with some of the best legendary minds around developing it. Plus more than twice the funding which was spent over a lot less years.
Course some of the fanbois will counter argue that Darkfall doesnt need content. Apparently its supposed to be an empty world devoid of mobs and npc's
they don't even have the server capacity to let everyone play at release. They are talking about a staged release because their budget is so low. if that doesn't sound like a lack of foresight i don't know what does.
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I just realized something....Darkfall is sounding less and less like a game, and more like a religion each day.
Yes. Been thinking about this for a while.
13 million over the time of development works out at less than 2 million per year.
Sound like a lot - but for a company with 30 staff?
Maybe salaries and overheads are cheaper in Greece?
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So this is the future isnt it? This is the next big mmorpg for hardcore players.
And I dont mean Darkfall, i mean FORUMS.
Reading a bit now and then I realize theres no space for hardcore players on the mmorpg industry so you become bored and start PVPing here,on the forums.
This is it ,I guess.No more player full loot,no more skills grinding.....the next big mmorpg will be just a Forum where people can fight each other.
Hopefully theres no subscription fee for this "game" nor it is needed any gear nor skills.You just have to speak english( or not,like me,lol) and attack every other post that is not supporting your reasoning.
Well sounds funny,i must admit,but now some questions come into mind:
Can we make pvp forums guild here? Does mmoprpg.com offer some kind of agrupation tool?(I dont wanna bash one of my guys).
Can we "conquer" forums? Once every enemy is humilliated and their opinions been laugh off...do we own the forum?
Is there friendly fire?
Is there any kind of pvp rewards? (aside from the simple pleasure of been and behave like an "too much time to lose smartass")
Thank you.
It's a shame the OP is right on the money with his/her post.
"My hope is that this collection of facts and statements with the provided sources and links to them will aid in discussions and concerns about the upcoming launch of Darkfall Online. Obviously, I simply do not have the time to go back over all the years and find every statement made by Tasos Flambouras or Aventurine that could be taken as deceitful, vague, or misleading. If you want to add to what I have given here, please feel free to add as the way I see it, the more information - the better... especially when we are talking about a game with as long a history, and as much skepticism as Darkfall certainly has."
^OP
Look, are you in the Beta yes or no? In fact dont even answer that, cause its a NDA violation. Lets get hypothetical though...lets assume you are in beta. If you were, you would know exactly whats in the game, which features are in it, and all the stuff these kids crying over with "vaporware" signs and pitchforks.
If you are not in beta, then you are just making way too many assumptions and getting way too worked up over it. ITS A GAME FOR FKSAKE. Wait till the NDA lifts, you can get all the first hand info you want. Wait till the game launches, then test it for yourself, or wait for the reviews. Look, this is no different than any other game out there. You might call them lies because they do not show you everything you want to see, but thats just illogical.
World of Warcraft was the same way. All Bliz gave were some concept art drawings and thats it... then once the Open Beta hit everyone knew about it. In fact, WoW still doesnt have player housing like they said, areas in the game are still not implimented, features from beta still never put back in. Oh well.
The point is, the OP is making a big scene over nothing. I personally do not think hes in beta, or else he wouldnt be using up way too much of his imagination with what will be in the game or not. Like any video game, if you are not sure, then dont buy it right away. Wait and see. Its that simple. You can say "lie this" and "lies there", but without actual evidence or first hand knowlege, you might as well be the liar. No one is lying really. Adventurine is trying to put in as many "working" features as they can into the game, then they will launch it. Every MMORPG has done the SAME THING.
DF's approach is a bit different than the rest, but they are an indy development company. Their marketing approach can be whatever the hell they want it to be.
Blizzard said WoW would have player housing? When was this? I was in the beta and I don't recall that ever being said.
One of EQ2's "selling points" was their player housing, as I recall. Not that this has anything to do with Darkfall, because we all know that everything that Tasos has stated will be in game, will of course, at some point be in game. But I'm just curious as to the statement that Blizzard said they'd have player housing, because I don't recall that.
But I have to disagree with you on "every MMORPG has done the SAME THING." Every MMORPG has not had 8 years of promises that consistently got delayed, pushed back, or all together ignored that they even MADE a comment about "beta is ready to begin" years before....etc.....I'm not gonna get in to the history of Darkfall.....you can READ it in the OP's post, but NO....that is NOT the history of EVERY MMORPG, not even close. Name ONE, just ONE, MMO that can compete with that long string of BS from the developer strung on through years and years with no fruit to be shown for it. Go ahead....name one (besides Dark and Light). More on point....name one SUCCESSFUL MMO that did that, or has that history.
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I was in the beta as well, and i can remember there was talk of instanced housing. But it was all very vague.
*googletime*
posted 2004-12-14 Caydiem: "Housing is a huge feature with a lot of dedicated time needed. While we definitely want to do housing, and it is something 'on the list', it's not a 'soon after release' feature. It's more of an 'on the horizon' feature.
From here
Player housing in World of Warcraft was a topic that was tossed around by beta testers and the devs clearly had little to no interest in the concept. Anyone who thought otherwise is naive.
Well the post clearly showed Tasos as a dishonest person, Or maybe very badly informed from his dev team...
As for the game its near a launch, unless the money has run out somehow and jinxis the game.
Personally i hope we get a release before summer, aslong its a smooth launch with few bugs.
Well I probably fall in the category of hopeful but very skeptical (no I won't be pre-ordering or even playing until 3-6 months after release, if that) but the biggest red flag for me in the OP is this one:
ESTIMATED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS: "We’ve recently simulated large battles and it seems that a single-core processor will be sufficient. 200 vs 200 battles produce between 30 to 60 FPS. When running alone in the wilderness, FPS can shoot to as high as 170-200. This will be further improved once optimizations has been done. Our main concern is to be able to run large battles smoothly."
So this small-time company that has no other game design experience and on a minimum budget is going to pull off what no other MMORPG has ever been able to accomplish. 200 vs 200 battles with 30 to 60 FPS on a single-core processor? In all honesty, does anyone think that will be the case?
Haha. Poor guy logged on just to post this.
In all seriousness though, yes OP your post had facts, and yes they carry some weight, but its clear that Darkfall is in the final stages, assuming you believe every "fact" that you read. There's enough beta leaks and new info around that points to "RELEASE IS SOON". Past this information, I don't care. I'll leave the digging and scrounging of info to guys like you with nothing better to do.
Hearsay from "beta testers" does not necissarily count as FACT in my book. Beta leaks can usually go either way...I mean look at some of the old leaks for Vanguard, or AoC. I mean crap, I remember people saying AoC was the second coming of christ, and then it dropped and it was a turd. So really I wouldn't classify anything some random 3rd party says as anything but speculation.
And "Release is soon" is something that has been repeated by Tasos for the past 8 years so I'd also take that with a grain of salt.
Just my 2 cents, please don't take this as an attack on you, just some perspective.
I agree, but you have to remember in the case of AoC's beta, it was confined to the tortage area which is where they obviously spent most of their time. I think a game like this is going to be very subjective on whether you like it or not. It has a lot more in common with the older MMOs than the newer ones. Some people never played those old games, so they don't really understand why people have been craving that type of experience as of late.
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I agree 100%. I had read something about Tasos saying some nonsense about 200 vs 200 wars on old PCs or something here on the forums, and didn't know how true it actually was until I actually found that exact quote in a little research, so of course I included it in my OP.
That was probably the most ridiculous thing I think Tasos stated from my hour or so of research. Can you imagine trying to program a client that would support 400 online players on the screen at once each casting spells and doing attacks and handling that much collision data, user input checks, user variables, and all the literally billions of different variables it would have to update simultaneously on a single core processor?!?? Tasos talking that crap makes me remember going to work about 10 years ago in the fall and some kid on break telling a bunch of us guys that he shot a deer when hunting that weighed 12,500 pounds AFTER gutting it, rotf. Actually, I think a 12,500 pound deer gutted is probably more realistic, hehe.
The most amusing thing he said was I believe from that same link where he said there was some kinda plans for a Xbox 360 version after the PC release of Darkfall. LOL. I chuckled at that one, and said to myself, "Dude, you need to worry about actually releasing a stable PC version before the year 2015 first before you even think for a second about a console version" lol.
That was also new, the whole 360 plans. I had never heard or read that before, and I think a couple of others here have stated that was news to them as well. ..I hope that my posting that link didn't cause any fans to rush out and buy an Xbox 360 just to wait on the release of "Darkfall" on the 360! - Never thought about that. Hehe.
- Zaxx
He also mentioned gamers needing a 6600GT or equivalent to run it. No doubt those with top end PCs ,eg,owners of 8600GS with 1gig ram will be getting well over 200fps.
ROTF, wonder what I would get with my Intel E8400 Dual Core CPU, 9800XT Video Card, and 4 GB of RAM? Hell, I'll probably be able to see that 200 vs 200 battles at about 300 fps and run by myself through the forest at 1000 fps or so! - and remember, that's BEFORE they improve it with optimizations! {chuckles}
- Zaxx
ROTF, wonder what I would get with my Intel E8400 Dual Core CPU, 9800XT Video Card, and 4 GB of RAM? Hell, I'll probably be able to see that 200 vs 200 battles at about 300 fps and run by myself through the forest at 1000 fps or so! - and remember, that's BEFORE they improve it with optimizations! {chuckles}
- Zaxx
I'd be in the same boat...Except I'd have 1010 FPS while running through the forest in my loincloth. 9800GTX+ ftw :P
Honestly though, I think the game will pull a Vanguard and not be playable at release, even on high-end machines.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
@ the person that commented on DF's budget. You compared thier budget to that of SWG, or SOE and Lucas Arts.
Are you serious?
I think a lot of people completely lose sight of the fact that DF is being developed by an indy dev. group.
I'd like to see some of you go out and get 13 million from somone to make a game. Bunch of armchair developers who have no idea what they're talking about. Give it a rest already. Find a game to play in the mean time.
Just about every post here, from the OP to the both the haters and the fans is turning into one giant lawlfest.
didnt aventurine have a budget of private income around 40mil usd? i thought they had a ton of money secured from private investors.