This list is flawed considering Fallout 3 sold roughly 4.7 million copies at release and is probably more now. I'm pretty sure WAR doesn't have 1.5 million subs though i believe Mythic/EA stated there were 1.5 million copies available at release.
Again this is PC games not PC games that also sold games for Xbox and PS3.
This list is flawed considering Fallout 3 sold roughly 4.7 million copies at release and is probably more now. I'm pretty sure WAR doesn't have 1.5 million subs though i believe Mythic/EA stated there were 1.5 million copies available at release.
Again this is PC games not PC games that also sold games for Xbox and PS3.
Also these figures never take into account sales via digital distribution, which I'm fairly certain is the lion's share of sales these days. I know I haven't bought games from the store in years now, unless they're not available as a download.
And everytime I say they need to add more Sim to the MMO's, instead of "whack-a-mole", add details, "living world", housing and whatnot..... I get shot down "WE DUN WAN NO The SIMS YOU MORON!!" Yet, year after year after year, The Sims keeps staying on the top PC game list.
Ofcourse, a Pure "The sims" MMO would suck... Heck, I even said that when I heard they were making The Sims Online. The exact concept won't work well in a MMORPG system... But the parts of The Sims that keeps drawing people to buy the 183532'th expansion pack... They would work. If people wasn't so hung up on their "whack -a-mole" gameplay.
The succes of the Sims is very much comparable to the success of the Wii, in that the game attracts a lot of non-hardcore players. I have a niece, she's about 15 year olds now, and she has been collecting every sims game and every expansion for years, and so do her girlfriends.
The thing is, she would never play Fallout 3, she wouldn't even play World of Warcraft for that matter.
The big question for MMO developers must thus be, can one inject enough "Sims" into an MMO to attract people like my niece, without turning off the hardcore gamer. It wouldn't be easy, because my niece is not impressed with videogame violence at all for example, so there would have to be alternative career paths, while at the same time those who do want action gameplay expect it to be at the highest level.
But I do think that if a gamedeveloper should succeed in this, create a game that attracts both classic hardcore gamers and "Sims playing" casual gamers, that gamedeveloper would have a fantastic game in their hand that might very well be the golden magic formula to lift the popularity of the genre to the next level.
I think we need to stop posts such as "LOL WoW has 12 million when AoC only has X million", because real people are being affected. I'm guessing those who do are too young to have any real responsibilities.
OK…….I did my 10 deep breaths and think I am clam now.
Please, please, please don’t suggest they take any elements out of the Sims and put them into our MMO’s. MMO’s are having enough trouble as it is without that sort of tosh gameplay.
If your niece wants to play a MMO (are you sure she even does?) then play Sims Online (it used to exist anyway not sure it still does). Games just like books and films have different genres; different ideas, style and gameplay. We don’t want games to appeal to all, that’s market speak ideology, trying to squeeze in the last few customers and making a mess of a game.
We need unique games with solid backgrounds, not game Porridge mish mash.
While I can understand people raising an eyebrow at some of the games above being so successful, suggesting the list is fixed by big companies is just ridiculous.
And everytime I say they need to add more Sim to the MMO's, instead of "whack-a-mole", add details, "living world", housing and whatnot..... I get shot down "WE DUN WAN NO The SIMS YOU MORON!!" Yet, year after year after year, The Sims keeps staying on the top PC game list.
Ofcourse, a Pure "The sims" MMO would suck... Heck, I even said that when I heard they were making The Sims Online. The exact concept won't work well in a MMORPG system... But the parts of The Sims that keeps drawing people to buy the 183532'th expansion pack... They would work. If people wasn't so hung up on their "whack -a-mole" gameplay.
The succes of the Sims is very much comparable to the success of the Wii, in that the game attracts a lot of non-hardcore players. I have a niece, she's about 15 year olds now, and she has been collecting every sims game and every expansion for years, and so do her girlfriends.
The thing is, she would never play Fallout 3, she wouldn't even play World of Warcraft for that matter.
The big question for MMO developers must thus be, can one inject enough "Sims" into an MMO to attract people like my niece, without turning off the hardcore gamer. It wouldn't be easy, because my niece is not impressed with videogame violence at all for example, so there would have to be alternative career paths, while at the same time those who do want action gameplay expect it to be at the highest level.
But I do think that if a gamedeveloper should succeed in this, create a game that attracts both classic hardcore gamers and "Sims playing" casual gamers, that gamedeveloper would have a fantastic game in their hand that might very well be the golden magic formula to lift the popularity of the genre to the next level.
Please, no. Nothing personal, but I don't want to play the same game as your niece. I tend to enjoy things in inverse proportion to the number of 15-year old girls who enjoy them.
LMAO shallow thinking about weather or not MY game?? lmao i have no game i would call MY game,i play many games.I never act like a childish FANBOIS on ANY game ,i will share the good and bad,only the biased and shallow people claim THEIR game is 100% fool proof.
I was merely stating FACTS,about NPD and this whole BS list.NPD is a MARKETING company,you know what that means right?if companies that hire them do not see results ,they are not hired,you can read between the lines i hope?Also as i said it IS A FACT,that no proof is EVER provided when NPD provides this list to MANY sites,they are all using the same one.
Maybe some marketing students can explain this whole concept better than i can, i would normally think most people understand it .It is the same thing as sportswear, NIKE pays Air Jordan a ton of money to endourse their product,LIE[of course] about the product , as long as they see results,they keep paying him/her/them
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Wizardry, these sales figures come the companies who made the games. Do you know who else looks at sales figures? The Inland Revenue or whoever deals with taxes in our country. If you inflate your figures the tax man will be asking you why you did not declare such high sales and holding his hand out for the extra tax. That’s in addition to the investigation and hefty fine for falsifying tax records.
I am going to stay in the real world, but you carry on living in the wonderful world of conspiracies.
LMAO shallow thinking about weather or not MY game?? lmao i have no game i would call MY game,i play many games.I never act like a childish FANBOIS on ANY game ,i will share the good and bad,only the biased and shallow people claim THEIR game is 100% fool proof. I was merely stating FACTS,about NPD and this whole BS list.NPD is a MARKETING company,you know what that means right?if companies that hire them do not see results ,they are not hired,you can read between the lines i hope?Also as i said it IS A FACT,that no proof is EVER provided when NPD provides this list to MANY sites,they are all using the same one. Maybe some marketing students can explain this whole concept better than i can, i would normally think most people understand it .It is the same thing as sportswear, NIKE pays Air Jordan a ton of money to endourse their product,LIE[of course] about the product , as long as they see results,they keep paying him/her/them
how the fuck do you have 5 stars? It must be awesome living in your world. do you just think random things and believe its true?
Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!
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Again this is PC games not PC games that also sold games for Xbox and PS3.
Thats pretty sad that Warcraft III battlechest and Diablo battlechest are top sellers. They a good games, but pretty old.
Again this is PC games not PC games that also sold games for Xbox and PS3.
Also these figures never take into account sales via digital distribution, which I'm fairly certain is the lion's share of sales these days. I know I haven't bought games from the store in years now, unless they're not available as a download.
The succes of the Sims is very much comparable to the success of the Wii, in that the game attracts a lot of non-hardcore players. I have a niece, she's about 15 year olds now, and she has been collecting every sims game and every expansion for years, and so do her girlfriends.
The thing is, she would never play Fallout 3, she wouldn't even play World of Warcraft for that matter.
The big question for MMO developers must thus be, can one inject enough "Sims" into an MMO to attract people like my niece, without turning off the hardcore gamer. It wouldn't be easy, because my niece is not impressed with videogame violence at all for example, so there would have to be alternative career paths, while at the same time those who do want action gameplay expect it to be at the highest level.
But I do think that if a gamedeveloper should succeed in this, create a game that attracts both classic hardcore gamers and "Sims playing" casual gamers, that gamedeveloper would have a fantastic game in their hand that might very well be the golden magic formula to lift the popularity of the genre to the next level.
Kind of hard to celebrate what games are selling best etc with news like
www.joystiq.com/2009/01/22/mass-layoffs-hit-skate-need-for-speed-dev-black-box/ NFS was crap anyway, but still.
www.joystiq.com/2009/01/22/microsoft-to-cut-5-000-jobs-by-june-2010/, the popularity of Mac and rise in number of netbooks using Ubuntu, Linpus lite etc is having an effect
I think we need to stop posts such as "LOL WoW has 12 million when AoC only has X million", because real people are being affected. I'm guessing those who do are too young to have any real responsibilities.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/MMORPG
OK…….I did my 10 deep breaths and think I am clam now.
Please, please, please don’t suggest they take any elements out of the Sims and put them into our MMO’s. MMO’s are having enough trouble as it is without that sort of tosh gameplay.
If your niece wants to play a MMO (are you sure she even does?) then play Sims Online (it used to exist anyway not sure it still does). Games just like books and films have different genres; different ideas, style and gameplay. We don’t want games to appeal to all, that’s market speak ideology, trying to squeeze in the last few customers and making a mess of a game.
We need unique games with solid backgrounds, not game Porridge mish mash.
While I can understand people raising an eyebrow at some of the games above being so successful, suggesting the list is fixed by big companies is just ridiculous.
shows how bad PC releases were in 2008..
The succes of the Sims is very much comparable to the success of the Wii, in that the game attracts a lot of non-hardcore players. I have a niece, she's about 15 year olds now, and she has been collecting every sims game and every expansion for years, and so do her girlfriends.
The thing is, she would never play Fallout 3, she wouldn't even play World of Warcraft for that matter.
The big question for MMO developers must thus be, can one inject enough "Sims" into an MMO to attract people like my niece, without turning off the hardcore gamer. It wouldn't be easy, because my niece is not impressed with videogame violence at all for example, so there would have to be alternative career paths, while at the same time those who do want action gameplay expect it to be at the highest level.
But I do think that if a gamedeveloper should succeed in this, create a game that attracts both classic hardcore gamers and "Sims playing" casual gamers, that gamedeveloper would have a fantastic game in their hand that might very well be the golden magic formula to lift the popularity of the genre to the next level.
Please, no. Nothing personal, but I don't want to play the same game as your niece. I tend to enjoy things in inverse proportion to the number of 15-year old girls who enjoy them.
Agreed, 2008 was a terrible year. The only game I liked was King's Bounty.
LMAO shallow thinking about weather or not MY game?? lmao i have no game i would call MY game,i play many games.I never act like a childish FANBOIS on ANY game ,i will share the good and bad,only the biased and shallow people claim THEIR game is 100% fool proof.
I was merely stating FACTS,about NPD and this whole BS list.NPD is a MARKETING company,you know what that means right?if companies that hire them do not see results ,they are not hired,you can read between the lines i hope?Also as i said it IS A FACT,that no proof is EVER provided when NPD provides this list to MANY sites,they are all using the same one.
Maybe some marketing students can explain this whole concept better than i can, i would normally think most people understand it .It is the same thing as sportswear, NIKE pays Air Jordan a ton of money to endourse their product,LIE[of course] about the product , as long as they see results,they keep paying him/her/them
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Wizardry, these sales figures come the companies who made the games. Do you know who else looks at sales figures? The Inland Revenue or whoever deals with taxes in our country. If you inflate your figures the tax man will be asking you why you did not declare such high sales and holding his hand out for the extra tax. That’s in addition to the investigation and hefty fine for falsifying tax records.
I am going to stay in the real world, but you carry on living in the wonderful world of conspiracies.
how the fuck do you have 5 stars? It must be awesome living in your world. do you just think random things and believe its true?
Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!