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What *really* has the SOE apologisits all stirred up?

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  • mr.torrancemr.torrance Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.

  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424

    it took you guys long enough.  After SOE announced an expansion for every 6 months, I knew they were nothing more than money-scam artists.  Stay away from SOE, I'm suprised they just don't take your credit card on file and buy things for themselves lol.  Next they'll be offering powerleveling services too!

  • kobie173kobie173 Member UncommonPosts: 2,075
    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

    So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  • ValeranValeran Member Posts: 925
    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

     

    perception is what makes the world go round these days...see CNN.

    --------
    Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism

    "SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor

  • kobie173kobie173 Member UncommonPosts: 2,075
    Originally posted by Valeran

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

     

    perception is what makes the world go round these days...see CNN.



     

    1. Or Fox News.

    2. Is that the Sham-wow guy in your avatar?

    So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562
    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

     

    Well, you just got away with flaming people. You jumped into a thread, made a personal attack, and all they did was delete it. Had it been one of us we would have been banned. There's the proof.

    WE get banned for simply assuming a 'combative tone." The bias here is obvious.

  • ValeranValeran Member Posts: 925
    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by Valeran

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

     

    perception is what makes the world go round these days...see CNN.



     

    1. Or Fox News.

    2. Is that the Sham-wow guy in your avatar?

     

    1.  Fox news would be considered the WoW of news organizations today.  They apparently do something right.

    2.  Yes...it is Vince the Shamwow guy...I laugh everytime I see that commercial.  SHAMMMMWOWWWW

    --------
    Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism

    "SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor

  • pdxgeekpdxgeek Member Posts: 585
    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

    You should see what I get warnings and bans for. If you're interested I'll forward some of them to you in PM. It's absolutely ridiculous. Then to see your side get away with murder on these forums without a word from the mods.

    Then again the idea of banning somebody from a site with free registration is pretty stupid.

  • kobie173kobie173 Member UncommonPosts: 2,075
    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

    You should see what I get warnings and bans for. If you're interested I'll forward some of them to you in PM. It's absolutely ridiculous. Then to see your side get away with murder on these forums without a word from the mods.

    Then again the idea of banning somebody from a site with free registration is pretty stupid.



     

    1. My "side"? What side would that be?

    2. I have a bunch of them in my inbox as well, if you'd like to see them. Equally as ridiculous, I'm sure.

    3. Agreed on the idea of banning someone from a free site. Kinda pointless.

    So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  • kobie173kobie173 Member UncommonPosts: 2,075
    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

     

    Well, you just got away with flaming people. You jumped into a thread, made a personal attack, and all they did was delete it. Had it been one of us we would have been banned. There's the proof.

    WE get banned for simply assuming a 'combative tone." The bias here is obvious.



     

    That's "proof"? Hypothetically stating that one of "you" would have been banned for saying what I said is "proof"?

    So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  • mr.torrancemr.torrance Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

    You should see what I get warnings and bans for. If you're interested I'll forward some of them to you in PM. It's absolutely ridiculous. Then to see your side get away with murder on these forums without a word from the mods.

    Then again the idea of banning somebody from a site with free registration is pretty stupid.

     

    case in point:

     

    You have been issued a warning by one of our moderators.

    Warning Category: Topic Hijacking

    Reason: Please stay on topic when posted on a thread or in a forum on the MMORPG.com forums. If you would like to talk about something non-MMO related, please use our Off-Topic section; if you would like to discuss a different topic relating to the game at question, please start a new thread.

    This warning was generated from the following post on our discussion forum:

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    ------------------------------------------------

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by hanshotfirst

    Heh, now I'm not just a troll, but an SOE apologist? You pre-CU fanbois are more defensive (and paranoid) than I gave you credit for.

     

    You're catching on.

    Either you agree with the so-called "vets" 100 percent, or you are shilling for SOE. You can set your watch by it.

     

    does sony make good watches?

     

  • ValeranValeran Member Posts: 925
    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

    You should see what I get warnings and bans for. If you're interested I'll forward some of them to you in PM. It's absolutely ridiculous. Then to see your side get away with murder on these forums without a word from the mods.

    Then again the idea of banning somebody from a site with free registration is pretty stupid.

     

    case in point:

     

    You have been issued a warning by one of our moderators.

    Warning Category: Topic Hijacking

    Reason: Please stay on topic when posted on a thread or in a forum on the MMORPG.com forums. If you would like to talk about something non-MMO related, please use our Off-Topic section; if you would like to discuss a different topic relating to the game at question, please start a new thread.

    This warning was generated from the following post on our discussion forum:

    Thread: Defining a "sandbox" MMO

    Below is the content of the post:

    ------------------------------------------------

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by hanshotfirst

    Heh, now I'm not just a troll, but an SOE apologist? You pre-CU fanbois are more defensive (and paranoid) than I gave you credit for.

     

    You're catching on.

    Either you agree with the so-called "vets" 100 percent, or you are shilling for SOE. You can set your watch by it.

     

    does sony make good watches?

     

     

    I give that a SHAMMMWOWWWW!

    --------
    Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism

    "SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor

  • kobie173kobie173 Member UncommonPosts: 2,075

    Dear kobie173,

    You have been issued a warning by one of our moderators.

    Warning Category: Retaliation

    Reason: If you feel that a user is breaking our Rules of Conduct by flaming, trolling, or any other action, please use the 'report' tool to notify a moderator. Responding to them in an aggressive or defensive manner simply further derails the thread, and could result in action taken against your account.

    This warning was generated from the following post on our discussion forum:

    Thread: Defining a "sandbox" MMO

    Below is the content of the post:

    ------------------------------------------------

    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by hanshotfirst

    Originally posted by Fishermage

    No I would say we are in completely different books, but in one small instance we seem to agree on the surface. In that you aren't arguing a clear position on anything here, however, it is possible we are -- but one would never know from your manner.

     

    What in particular is unclear?

    That I don't hold the same reverence, admiration and nostalgia for pre-CU SWG (or any of its iterations) as the OP and others? That I don't idealize it as shining example of what an MMO (sandbox or otherwise) should be?

    It was a game mired in flaws; flaws in design, execution, and practice. To omit that is irresponsible and misleading.

    I don't think you'll find many vets that would argue the original game was deeply flawed. All we asked for was the flaws to be addressed...not to have the entire game ripped apart and replaced with the NGE.

     

    Yup, but taht is the typical tactic of the SOE apologist: misprepresent the opposition and its positions.



     

    Really. You could say the same for the typical SOE-is-the-devil, pre-CU fanboi like yourself and your little friends at your lolforum. Your little pals are always accusing me of posting things I have never once posted, and I know you guys consider me king of the SOE apologists even though I'm nothing of the sort.

    ---------------------------

    Yeah, it's just "your side." And it's just the "fanbois" that are report monkeys on every single post they don't like. Get a grip.

    So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  • ValeranValeran Member Posts: 925
    Originally posted by kobie173


    Dear kobie173,
    You have been issued a warning by one of our moderators.
    Warning Category: Retaliation

    Reason: If you feel that a user is breaking our Rules of Conduct by flaming, trolling, or any other action, please use the 'report' tool to notify a moderator. Responding to them in an aggressive or defensive manner simply further derails the thread, and could result in action taken against your account.
    This warning was generated from the following post on our discussion forum:
    Thread: Defining a "sandbox" MMO

    Below is the content of the post:
    ------------------------------------------------

    Originally posted by Fishermage
    Originally posted by pdxgeek
    Originally posted by hanshotfirst
    Originally posted by Fishermage

    No I would say we are in completely different books, but in one small instance we seem to agree on the surface. In that you aren't arguing a clear position on anything here, however, it is possible we are -- but one would never know from your manner.
     
    What in particular is unclear?
    That I don't hold the same reverence, admiration and nostalgia for pre-CU SWG (or any of its iterations) as the OP and others? That I don't idealize it as shining example of what an MMO (sandbox or otherwise) should be?
    It was a game mired in flaws; flaws in design, execution, and practice. To omit that is irresponsible and misleading.
    I don't think you'll find many vets that would argue the original game was deeply flawed. All we asked for was the flaws to be addressed...not to have the entire game ripped apart and replaced with the NGE.
     
    Yup, but taht is the typical tactic of the SOE apologist: misprepresent the opposition and its positions.


     
    Really. You could say the same for the typical SOE-is-the-devil, pre-CU fanboi like yourself and your little friends at your lolforum. Your little pals are always accusing me of posting things I have never once posted, and I know you guys consider me king of the SOE apologists even though I'm nothing of the sort.
    ---------------------------
    Yeah, it's just "your side." And it's just the "fanbois" that are report monkeys on every single post they don't like. Get a grip.

     

    Have to give this a SHAMMMMWOWWW too!!!!

    --------
    Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism

    "SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562
    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

     

    Well, you just got away with flaming people. You jumped into a thread, made a personal attack, and all they did was delete it. Had it been one of us we would have been banned. There's the proof.

    WE get banned for simply assuming a 'combative tone." The bias here is obvious.



     

    That's "proof"? Hypothetically stating that one of "you" would have been banned for saying what I said is "proof"?

    The fact that you are still posting here now is certainly proof.

  • DubhlaithDubhlaith Member Posts: 1,012

    SOE destroys games.


    It is a fact with which we all must live.

    "Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true — you know it, and they know it." —Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007

    WTF? No subscription fee?

  • kobie173kobie173 Member UncommonPosts: 2,075
    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

     

    Well, you just got away with flaming people. You jumped into a thread, made a personal attack, and all they did was delete it. Had it been one of us we would have been banned. There's the proof.

    WE get banned for simply assuming a 'combative tone." The bias here is obvious.



     

    That's "proof"? Hypothetically stating that one of "you" would have been banned for saying what I said is "proof"?

    The fact that you are still posting here now is certainly proof.



     

    So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  • lightning-rdlightning-rd Member Posts: 123
    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by kobie173

    Originally posted by mr.torrance

    Originally posted by pdxgeek

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    I believe they are censoring people here; you don't. I believe the censorship comes from SONY, since pro-SONY people have much more freedom here than the vets. the mods violate the rules to protect SONY. Not a gut feeling -- my experience here tells me this.

    I agree with this 100%.

     

    as do i.



     

    Of course you do. It fits your worldview.

    Ever think that maybe the so-called "vets" get "censored" is because they repeatedly violate the rules of this forum? No, that couldn't be it. It's just "censorship."

     

    Well, you just got away with flaming people. You jumped into a thread, made a personal attack, and all they did was delete it. Had it been one of us we would have been banned. There's the proof.

    WE get banned for simply assuming a 'combative tone." The bias here is obvious.



     

    That's "proof"? Hypothetically stating that one of "you" would have been banned for saying what I said is "proof"?

    The fact that you are still posting here now is certainly proof.

     

    Exactly.  Since all he does is troll and flamebait.

    Kobie has such vitriol I am almost ready to accuse him of being Chris Cao.

     

  • lightning-rdlightning-rd Member Posts: 123
    Originally posted by Dubhlaith


    SOE destroys games.


    It is a fact with which we all must live.

     

    That's why we are here.  To inform the uninformed about SOE and what they do.  So as to prevent them from dedicating themselves to a SOE MMO only to have a CUNGE or sudden macrotranscam gambling scheme or store happen to them.

    SOE has done that crap in the past (and present in the case of the RMT junk).  They WILL do it again.

     

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