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Strength refund vial

gsp_rushgsp_rush Member Posts: 113

I just received four strength refund vials. According to the item profile, it refunds strength points from growth vials and return them as bonus points. I am kinda sleepy and I really don't get this. What is this refund vial for and how important it is getting back those bonus points?

 

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  • ZinraeZinrae Member Posts: 50

    Well, the growth vials use 1 bonus point and give you +5 to a random stat. However, some stats might not be useful on some chars. Such as say, strength on your monk. So you can use the Strength refund vial to take off 5 str that a vial added on, and your monk will get 1 bonus point back. Then you can use another growth vial and hope you don't get strength again.

  • SlappanSlappan Member Posts: 289

    I used some intelligence vials yesterday on my lady knight, after getting a lot of intelligence from growth vials. I reused growth vials and got a mixture of strength> dex> vitality statistics. Much more suited for my mercenary. Coincidentally, vials were a lot cheaper in the market at 60k, down from ridiculous amounts previously.

  • gsp_rushgsp_rush Member Posts: 113

    Oh I see. Those strength refund vials are like resetting the stats so that you can properly allocate the necessary stats just like the example of the monk. Now I know that it is indeed helpful. I was about to sell it in the market....

  • SlappanSlappan Member Posts: 289

    Statistics gained from vials aren't that big a deal in my opinion... the really important things are your gear, formation, and skill levels. I wouldn't worry too much about bad stat distribution unless you are obsessive compulsive about your mercenaries.

  • ZinraeZinrae Member Posts: 50

    Actually they can make a noticeable difference. I've got two swords and one ended up with about 1000 hp more than the other one because of how much vit each got from growth vials. Of course, you can compensate for that by buying rings of protection or something.

  • kokoro-chinkokoro-chin Member Posts: 181

    I haven't gotten this item yet in the game it does seem very useful if you want to create a your ideal mercenary. It'll still be hard though since the Growth vial will still randomly select a stat to upgrade so it's kinda like a trial and error thing. I haven't really thought about the specific stats a mercenary should focus on who I've always accepted what the Growth vials give me. Anyway, if I happen to find a strength refund, I'll try to 'fix' my mercenaries... if I feel like it.

  • wrathshieldwrathshield Member UncommonPosts: 39

    I have 4 Intelligence ones and I was wondering about using them.  Here are my questions.

    Intelligence affects magic correct?

    So will intelligence on a sword for example mean that his magic attacks (flame sword/dark seed) are stronger because he has more intelligence or just that he has more blue (mana) to last longer?

    Lastly, I guess i haven't really thought about using them because all my mercs have several (some in the teens) bonus points because vials are so hard to come by and I rarely buy them.  So adding back 4 bonus points to a swordsman that currently has 8 doesn't seem like a  good idea right now.  Guess it will in later levels.

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  • dt1984dt1984 Member Posts: 218
    Originally posted by wrathshield


    I have 4 Intelligence ones and I was wondering about using them.  Here are my questions.
    Intelligence affects magic correct?
    So will intelligence on a sword for example mean that his magic attacks (flame sword/dark seed) are stronger because he has more intelligence or just that he has more blue (mana) to last longer?
    Lastly, I guess i haven't really thought about using them because all my mercs have several (some in the teens) bonus points because vials are so hard to come by and I rarely buy them.  So adding back 4 bonus points to a swordsman that currently has 8 doesn't seem like a  good idea right now.  Guess it will in later levels.

     

    Well, fro m what i know, inte increases magic attack and magic defense so yes it should also increase flame sword's damage.

    And for the bonus points, it will not matter unless it was used. ^-^ coz in calculation, 4 bonus point mean 20 additional stat points. ^-^

  • denisfenixdenisfenix Member Posts: 30
    Originally posted by Slappan


    I used some intelligence vials yesterday on my lady knight, after getting a lot of intelligence from growth vials. I reused growth vials and got a mixture of strength> dex> vitality statistics. Much more suited for my mercenary. Coincidentally, vials were a lot cheaper in the market at 60k, down from ridiculous amounts previously.



     

    I have to use those vial yet, but probably I'll sell 'em  

    Anyway, I'd rather receive some "upgrading" crystals next weekend. Their current prices are insane, especially for redemption and giant crystals 

    ~3-4  weeks ago they costs 30/40k each, now it's 70+ (and up to 90k) . It's an awful situation

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  • repapipsrepapips Member Posts: 450

    refund vial is use to reset the added bonus point to your character, because some users were not happy the way their stats are distributed...

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  • fherdzfherdz Member Posts: 33

    ah so i can allocate my stats if i use refund vial???

  • PhilFischerPhilFischer Member Posts: 3

    Using Refund Potions:

         If your Str is 52 and your lvl is 50 you can only refund 2 str.

        If your str was 47 you couldnt do any.  It is limited by your lvl.

      Suggestions:

       Wait until you are at max lvl and then do it.  Otherwise if you continually try to fix it while lvling it will cost you many many times more than doing it once when lvl capped.  It appears if one of your stats are low, it seems to give that to you more often.

    -z

  • mummagugmemummagugme Member Posts: 14

    how do i get one? i want more bonus points, cant it be turned into skill points?

  • PhilFischerPhilFischer Member Posts: 3

    I'm lvl 54 and still don't know where they come from.  I used to buy them from auction house for 500K per STR vial, or 125K per DEX vial (server that starts with A).  Now dex ones are like 250K+.

    It definately isn't worth it until you max out your mercs or self at lvl 100 or whatever it is.  That way you only so it once.  Wait until then, the cash won't matter as much either.  Other wise you just remove a STR, add a STR, remove a STR add a STR etc.  I used 4 STR refund vials and got 3 STR back once!  I believe its because there is a greater chance of getting a stat point of something that is lower than average.

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    -z

  • PhilFischerPhilFischer Member Posts: 3

    Oh, sorry.  No, it can only get you a bonus ability/stat point back.  Type 'refund' in search box on Market.

    -z

  • dubistblaudubistblau Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 274

    i think this is useless cause when you consume growth vials, they still give additional points randomly right? see my point? anyway.^^

  • impaktoimpakto Member Posts: 314

    i think it would be nice if you can allocate the points, right?

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