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Vanguard status?
ukrai
Member Posts: 22
Gave up on Vanguard shortly after the server merges, population still too low? any positive changes since?
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Since the free trial I think there's been a gradual increase in population across all servers. Although still pretty low, it's heading in the right direction. I think a lot of people coming back to Vanguard are suprised that it has changed quite a bit since its initial release. There's a patch coming to add PvP as far as I understand, along with some other additions.
Yeah, the starter hometowns are pretty desolate cause everyone uses the starting isle. Which is a shame because if you have a good computer and start in the elf area, it's some of the best looking mmorpg settings I've ever seen. With no real big games coming out this year I suspect the WoW gamers will slowly start to filter out to the other major games after they goble up their expansion, and Vanguard will pick up some players over time.
vanguard is designed with a large number of starting areas. I'm not counting mind you but I think it is close to a dozen areas. And progressing out of these areas take maybe 15 levels. This means that people in these areas for maybe 10-20 hours tops. So with an even distribution to see 2-3 people in these areas you really need to see maybe 30-60 new players a day.... Therein lies the problem. Too many starting areas for the number of people joining the game. Also now days a lot of people are starting in IoD. Now as you level up you get funneled to fewer areas and it takes longer so you do start seeing more people. In fact in some popular quest ares at times it can be overcrowded. Like TK, or CIS, or Tseng weapon, etc.
On the positive changes really they are too many to count. Download IoD and give it a whirl thats propbably the easiest thing to do. You can alos go to vgplayers.com and read the past release notes.
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Ethion
VG is awesome. the only reason i havnt been playin it was because of my extreme WoW addiction and my computer needs to be upgraded a little bit, but i want to have it by christmas at the latest. cya in telon
VG really is better than anything else out there...
WoW is...pathetic
LotRO is 90% 9% LotR 1% stupid
Everything else sucks for some other reason
Vanguard may have problems but the good outweighs the bad
Just started up in Vanguard recently through the Isle of Dawn trial. The population is obviously low compared to the big hitters, but that can be rectified by people trying out the free trial and then getting hooked!
My primary Toon (Rowf the Vulmane Ranger15/Artificer7) is on the low population Halgar EU Server and it's still pretty good. Played with a group of five (level 10-15) characters Sunday evening to do the Azebaj Hive quests at Qa Riverbank and had a buzzing good time!
Is it as good/worse or better than other MMO's?
Dunno, haven't played them all and anyway, different people want different things out of a game. Try the free trial and see what you think.
Currently playing: Vanguard: SOH
vanguard is designed with a large number of starting areas. I'm not counting mind you but I think it is close to a dozen areas. And progressing out of these areas take maybe 15 levels. This means that people in these areas for maybe 10-20 hours tops. So with an even distribution to see 2-3 people in these areas you really need to see maybe 30-60 new players a day.... Therein lies the problem. Too many starting areas for the number of people joining the game. Also now days a lot of people are starting in IoD. Now as you level up you get funneled to fewer areas and it takes longer so you do start seeing more people. In fact in some popular quest ares at times it can be overcrowded. Like TK, or CIS, or Tseng weapon, etc.
On the positive changes really they are too many to count. Download IoD and give it a whirl thats propbably the easiest thing to do. You can alos go to vgplayers.com and read the past release notes.
I think a problem is that starter areas need not just be starter areas. Sure, the noobs start there, but the higher levels need a reason to come back to train, sell, repair, auction, re-equip, and other stuff.
Any MMORPG should be designed so that it's cities and towns thrive with people; that's where the community and the life of an MMO should be found.
vanguard is designed with a large number of starting areas. I'm not counting mind you but I think it is close to a dozen areas. And progressing out of these areas take maybe 15 levels. This means that people in these areas for maybe 10-20 hours tops. So with an even distribution to see 2-3 people in these areas you really need to see maybe 30-60 new players a day.... Therein lies the problem. Too many starting areas for the number of people joining the game. Also now days a lot of people are starting in IoD. Now as you level up you get funneled to fewer areas and it takes longer so you do start seeing more people. In fact in some popular quest ares at times it can be overcrowded. Like TK, or CIS, or Tseng weapon, etc.
On the positive changes really they are too many to count. Download IoD and give it a whirl thats propbably the easiest thing to do. You can alos go to vgplayers.com and read the past release notes.
I think a problem is that starter areas need not just be starter areas. Sure, the noobs start there, but the higher levels need a reason to come back to train, sell, repair, auction, re-equip, and other stuff.
Any MMORPG should be designed so that it's cities and towns thrive with people; that's where the community and the life of an MMO should be found.
I think this was the one thing EQ2 got right.... only two capital cities.. one for each team... and they are your home from level1 all the way to the level cap.
Grymm
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I'm not so sure. The reasoning was sound but the implementation was a little lacking. I REALLY missed not having the theme specific starter areas from the original EQ. With the original EQ being my first MMORPG I have incredibly fond memories taking my first steps through Halas and out into Everfrost as a Barbarian and after much adventure eventually finding my way to Qeynos was a major milestone.
I think Vanguard was trying to capture a similar feeling (with some success).
play the game its the best out there so far.
currently playing war: 32 shammy
vanguard: 50 shammy and 50 rogue FFA server sartok
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Vanguard is a ghost town and dead. It will never recover.
The launch was horrible and buggy but SOE has dummied down the game so it's not anywhere like the original vision.
it did have a bad release but they made up for it with the fixes and new content. not to mention there is almost always something to do in that game and the world it self is wide open. FFA server sartok
www.ebonlore.org
A completely off-based stated by someone who isn't currently playing. Last night alone a group a folks in our guild looking to complete certain quests had to leave Old Targanor because it was too crowded, bypassed Rahz Inkur because it was packed, gave up on Shores of Darkness because it was packed and finally settled on some Fungal Abomination kills. And that's on all on a Thursday night.
The population increase has been noticeable and significant. Saying VG is a ghost town and dead could not be farther from the truth.
Vanguard is the greatest and most beautifull modern PvE MMO currently on market. The only problem for me is missing of PvP (except FFA PvP server) and still bad performance in indoor raids. I think will come back if there is maningfull PvP system implemented.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
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LordOfDarkDesire
The original version that was a broken bugfest?
Everyone knows what a chequered past VG has had, but its not the game it used to be. It is also far from being a ghost town.
Seamless is the word sony do not understand and stairs are still unplayable.
Chunky epic unreal world full of bugs with a /flush command at your fingertip to flush bugs from your memory leakage.
good description of launch.
Today, pretty off base. I'd almost forgotten the flush command :P that brought back memories which just underscore how far things have come... I remember well when /flush was your friend you did it at least once per hour sometimes more and whenever anything wierd happened. Now days most players don't even know what that command is...
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Ethion
Really because i was on for 14 hours yesterday without a bug, leak or crash..
Make a difference!
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A completely off-based stated by someone who isn't currently playing. Last night alone a group a folks in our guild looking to complete certain quests had to leave Old Targanor because it was too crowded, bypassed Rahz Inkur because it was packed, gave up on Shores of Darkness because it was packed and finally settled on some Fungal Abomination kills. And that's on all on a Thursday night.
The population increase has been noticeable and significant. Saying VG is a ghost town and dead could not be farther from the truth.
Completely agree with the rebuttal. Seems like it has picked up since Isle of Dawn released - I am sure WoWs expansion will take a few - for awhile. But they will be back. The game is SO much improved. A real joy to play.
I agree that it's not a ghost town for the most part, but it's certainly not a thriving growing population that will support the Devs new direction of turning VG into a group centric game either.
Best advice so far has been to pay the $15 bucks and try it yourself. Just keep in mind that with each update, the game is being changed pretty dramatically. Sometimes that's good; sometimes not. It's all about perspective I guess.
Vanguard is no ghost town.
I can easily find groups , bugs are just a few and /flush command i dont know it even existed and i have a level 30 toon and a level 17 one .
I am so glad i decided to download and try the game cause it is the best pve game there is.
No way i am going back to crap like WOW .
Plus it has a real mature helpfull community.
No more dirge talk for me thanks.
yah i knew people loved vanguard as much as me.
join the FFA server sartok
www.ebonlore.org
May I suggest you DON'T "drop 15 bucks"?
The Isle of Dawn 14 day trial is FREE to download and play.
What's more, if you opt to 'buy' the full game from within the trial, you only pay the monthly subscription price. There is no game package charge. Just the monthly fee.
If you aren't sure about the current state of Vanguard, just download the free trial and see for yourself. Some will like it and others will dislike it.
I don't know what it was like when it was first released (REALLY bad I hear), but it plays pretty damn well now.
If you are in the UK/EU and like the game, remember to join the Halgar server, the population is low/med but there are some really good guilds on there who play weekday evening & weekend UK times.
Currently playing: Vanguard: SOH
May I suggest you DON'T "drop 15 bucks"?
The Isle of Dawn 14 day trial is FREE to download and play.
What's more, if you opt to 'buy' the full game from within the trial, you only pay the monthly subscription price. There is no game package charge. Just the monthly fee.
If you aren't sure about the current state of Vanguard, just download the free trial and see for yourself. Some will like it and others will dislike it.
I don't know what it was like when it was first released (REALLY bad I hear), but it plays pretty damn well now.
If you are in the UK/EU and like the game, remember to join the Halgar server, the population is low/med but there are some really good guilds on there who play weekday evening & weekend UK times.
this ^^^
I agree that it's not a ghost town for the most part, but it's certainly not a thriving growing population that will support the Devs new direction of turning VG into a group centric game either.
Best advice so far has been to pay the $15 bucks and try it yourself. Just keep in mind that with each update, the game is being changed pretty dramatically. Sometimes that's good; sometimes not. It's all about perspective I guess.
Actually it is a growing population it is just still small. Since the introduction of IOD more people have tried the game and the servers have more people so yes it is growing. Now that may or may not last depending on how much people continue to enjoy the game but according to the devs some servers had double the population due to the trial and you can only assume some of those will end up staying on.