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Which ones are not quest oriented?
keremix
Member Posts: 13
There are 3 mmorpgs I have played for a long time: Eq1, Wow and Eq2. Since I am still playing Eq2, I wanna play another game in which you dont have to complete hundreds of quests like in Wow or Eq2. I loved EQ since there were so few quests and accomplishing them meant something. I am not into playing another game where you have to do quests after quests like killing 20 X and then 30 Y which are pointless.
Could u please comment on these games only in terms of questing: Eve, Vanguard, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Saga of Ryzom and Darkfall...
Thanks for ur effort
current:
EQ(project1999)/Half Elf/Bard/Lvl 7
EQ/Human/Shadowknight/14(retired)
EQ/Erudite/Wizard/22(retired)
WoW/Dwarf/Warrior/Jari/Lvl 44(retired)
EQ2/Ogre/Bruiser/Ashur/Lvl 31
EvE/Rads Atreid
EQ2/Antonia Bayle/High Elf/Fury/Loreleia/70
MMOs played:EQ,WoW,EQ2
MMOs tried:SWG,ATitD,Vanguard,Eve
Comments
I cant comment on Pirates of the Burning Sea as I have never played it. Neither can anyone comment accurately on Darkfall as it has not been released yet so I'm not really sure why you included it.
Vanguard is another questing game and plays in the same way that EQ2 and WoW does. The world is bigger though so the quests are more spaced out but its still essentially the same thing but with more travelling involved.......just think EQ2 with the W key being pressed more.
Saga of Ryzom is what many people mistakenly refer to as a sandbox game but actually its the same as any other themepark game but without all the quests.......which basicly means there isnt much to do in it except kill things, harvest stuff and craft things. Supporters of the game will tell you that you have to look for your own fun but this is rather challenging as the game doesnt give you anything to have fun with. I guess if you like chatting to people and pretending you are doing stuff then you might like it but then equally you could just join a yahoo chat group for free. Anyway I think its free to play at the moment so you could experience the boredom yourself without having to spend any money.
EVE is a PvP focused game. It has PvE missions but they are only there for earning money to keep you in the big fight. You need to join corporations (guilds) to have any real fun with the game though. Many people find it hard to get into as it is a lot more complex than other mmos and most players are used to having games tell them what to do (such as those quests you are used to in WoW and EQ2). The game is skill-based rather than level-based and has a slow method of progression that many people have a problem with (again because of the "mythical golden carrot" method of advancement in games such as WoW and EQ2). As a result quite a few lazy-minded people just dont get it and find it boring. It is very different to all the other mmos and it also looks a LOT better than all of them. The music and sound effects are awesome too. So basicly its realistic, it looks great, it sounds awesome, it requires you to think and plan ahead, its all on one server, it has a player driven economy and the game is designed around PvP. Whats not to like
Also keep an eye on the following games that are currently in production:
Crusades
Earthrise
Fallen Earth
Mortal Online
Typically sandbox games are not quest oriented but more society oriented. Here is my descriptions about different games.
In EvE for there are mission that are something like quests but are unlimited and automatic generated, also their purpose is source of money instead of progress.
In Ryzom there are quests in starting zone but they are just as introduction, and they are not the main mechanic of the game.
In Vanguard there huge number of quests even more than EQ2 and WoW, but there is one general difference - there are only few quests that are really rewarding. At all even there are many quests and there is posibility to play in similar way like in WoW and EQ2 its pointles and its much better to play it in similar way like in EQ1 - "since there were so few quests and accomplishing them meant something."
What about PoBS, my friend have played it for 2 months up to max lvl and say that quests are very pointless
Darkfall still is not released but it have to be the similar way like in any other sandbox game - even they exist they are not momentum.
PS: Many peoples say that Vanguard is the successor of Everquest 1 and feeling of the gameplay is very similar.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
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LordOfDarkDesire
darkfall is included since there are only 2-3 months to release and there might be enough information about questing system... Thank you for ur answer
current:
EQ(project1999)/Half Elf/Bard/Lvl 7
EQ/Human/Shadowknight/14(retired)
EQ/Erudite/Wizard/22(retired)
WoW/Dwarf/Warrior/Jari/Lvl 44(retired)
EQ2/Ogre/Bruiser/Ashur/Lvl 31
EvE/Rads Atreid
EQ2/Antonia Bayle/High Elf/Fury/Loreleia/70
MMOs played:EQ,WoW,EQ2
MMOs tried:SWG,ATitD,Vanguard,Eve
you don't know that darkfall will for sure release in the next couple of months.. how can they do so when they haven't even had a closed or open beta? most of us are very skeptical when it comes to that game. there is very little information when it comes to just about anything in that game.
what i really wanna know, is, why are you asking about some of these games when it says right in your signature that you've tried them?
war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
big brother is watching you
Thanks for answers...
I am asking the games in my mmos tried list because I only had a chance to play them like for a few days. I appreciate any comments from veterans of each game.
Well I see that vanguard is quest oriented and you should do thousands of quests...
Ryzom, Eve and Darkfall are not quest oriented...
Still need comments for Pirates of the Burning Sea and mmm Aion as well (if there is any info about it)
current:
EQ(project1999)/Half Elf/Bard/Lvl 7
EQ/Human/Shadowknight/14(retired)
EQ/Erudite/Wizard/22(retired)
WoW/Dwarf/Warrior/Jari/Lvl 44(retired)
EQ2/Ogre/Bruiser/Ashur/Lvl 31
EvE/Rads Atreid
EQ2/Antonia Bayle/High Elf/Fury/Loreleia/70
MMOs played:EQ,WoW,EQ2
MMOs tried:SWG,ATitD,Vanguard,Eve
Ryzoms questing system mainly gets you fame/faction and a bit of gold/dapper, and there are a few major quests that unlock a part of the lore/encyclopedia and give some perment and minor buffs. Some people have used it to quickly level some skills(especially crafting) cheaply, however it's not a requirement and is a bit slower. The main things that the faction offers: Kami/Karavan-which teleports you can use and high level teleports, Racial faction affects prices of stuff in that reigion(cheaper to buy, more profitable to sell).
As for other content there is a lot of pretty traditional stuff witht he exception that it's skill based(magic, crafting, harvesting, meelee all on one character). Along with a few major raids(Uninstanced kitin lairs), World bosses being minor raids, and named monsters being around for small groups. Harvesting is actually a pretty decent mini game, and crafting is pretty complex since you have so much control for how the final stats turn out(based on crafting materials) letting you pretty much completely custimize armor. Theres high level PvP combat that ends up with a few-handful of guilds attacking/defending an outpost. The developers are probably going to end up bringing in plot lines again. There's also the ring where people can make their own content though it's a bit underused(I plan on making stuff eventually).
So there's not as much content as a normall MMO but then again there's none of the silly rules there that are in normal MMO's that make it so you can't do stuff. I don't consider it a full on sandbox either but it's closser than most.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
No offense but I really don't understand things like this. Everquest had tons and tons of quests, you just had to go and find, they were not on display, but there were an awful lot of them there. I know my little notebooks were always full. And you don't have to do the quests in any of the newer games. So it really is the same situation.
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Eve:
This is a game you can play AFKish. Not allot of action, but if you love number crunching, and min/maxing your stats and equipment to make an uber character to test in open PvP, Than EVE is the game for you!
Vanguard:
If you’re one of those people who play MMOs to grind, and love grinding more than anything else than play this game.
Pirates of the Burning Sea:
No Idea
Saga of Ryzom:
No Idea
Darkfall:
If your looking for a truly unique open PvP hard core MMO than this is what you’ve been waiting for! Un fortunately it’s being developed by an independent company that is working beyond their means to make this game. This game is so much bigger than they are so it might be a vapourware game. But I really hope not.
FFXI:
If you liked EQ and want a similar game with better graphics then I think you should give this game a shot.
FFXI is never quest -oriented.
The only quest you need is "job quests" and "subjob quest" you can skip everything if you want...
but missions are need for entry to new area...however you can skip if you don't want to go.
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Give Ryzom a try, now is a good time as its going to be free until at least the end of october, not just limited to the newbie island. Have probably done 6 quests in last 12 months play time. And they were only for fun, trying to find hard to find mission mats deep in wastelands
It's a bit like marmite - you'll love it or hate it. And harvesting is by far the main game for me, none of this mini game
if i had to guess and maybe i am off a bit but the OP is probably tallking about the "go collect 10 orc spleens and bring them back to me" type quests. in EQ1 most quests were pretty group oriented and not solo oriented.
Hehe - well, the fact that it has taken this long to get a response on Pirates of the Burning Sea should tell you something already but...
PotBS has a fairly large number of quests. The game mechanics are all instanced - so every "quest" (could also read mission here) you take you will load into from the dock NPC.
There are ship-based missions which are basically either escort, destroy, or escape missions (sometimes timed, sometimes not). Unfortunately most missions have been generated from templates - which means you will see the same exact mission over and over and over just with different boats in the various spawn points. They're starting to put in some handcrafted ones as well - but it's mostly the template ones.
There are also avatar combat missions, again either escort or destroy and all instanced. Whether you like the avatar combat system in general will determine whether these missions are kinda cool or as painful as a root canal.
By and large the quest text is well-written, but the actual missions leave a lot to be desired IMO.
General wisdom was always that the missions are the best source of cash while hunting down pirates on the Open Sea was the best source of XP. It may have changed since I played though. I know that they've introduced a few repeatable missions that people farm for cash though.
There is a quest-line that continues through the entire game that was well-written and more involving for the parts that I did - but that is really only a minority of the missions you can take.
One final point that should probably be mentioned - PotBS is a PvP game. It is very possible for the ports you need to get to to continue your missions to be blocked by PvP zones. If you're strictly PvE this may be a problem for you.
I think I can explain. I posted about this recently. Yes EQ1 had tons of quests, but (and its a biggy) quests in EQ were not part of the leveling process. Quests were something you did in your spare time because they were fun or had a really really nice reward. They were not something you typically did to level. There were quests at the lower level like orc belts and pads, bone chips and bat wing type quests that could be used as a leveling booster at levels prior to level 10. And some of the epic quests gave a nice experience bump but those took weeks and months to complete.
Every game since WOW has turned questing into part of the leveling process and as a result increased the number of quests and made them less interesting, take less time to do and at least for many people less fun to do. And I have to disagree with your you don't have to do the quests in the newer games. That was true in EQ1, but even with the really short leveling curves you would level even slower than soloing in EQ1 if you didn't do the quests in the newer games.
Mabinogi lol it has the masterstroke quests..and i like it very much. because they are so exciting ones. however, a role could do it only once...
Either you can do quests however boring they may be and level up fairly quickly or you can kill the same mob tenthousand times to gain a level and then move on to a new mob.
The choice is yours.
I think I can explain. I posted about this recently. Yes EQ1 had tons of quests, but (and its a biggy) quests in EQ were not part of the leveling process. Quests were something you did in your spare time because they were fun or had a really really nice reward. They were not something you typically did to level. There were quests at the lower level like orc belts and pads, bone chips and bat wing type quests that could be used as a leveling booster at levels prior to level 10. And some of the epic quests gave a nice experience bump but those took weeks and months to complete.
Every game since WOW has turned questing into part of the leveling process and as a result increased the number of quests and made them less interesting, take less time to do and at least for many people less fun to do. And I have to disagree with your you don't have to do the quests in the newer games. That was true in EQ1, but even with the really short leveling curves you would level even slower than soloing in EQ1 if you didn't do the quests in the newer games.
current:
EQ(project1999)/Half Elf/Bard/Lvl 7
EQ/Human/Shadowknight/14(retired)
EQ/Erudite/Wizard/22(retired)
WoW/Dwarf/Warrior/Jari/Lvl 44(retired)
EQ2/Ogre/Bruiser/Ashur/Lvl 31
EvE/Rads Atreid
EQ2/Antonia Bayle/High Elf/Fury/Loreleia/70
MMOs played:EQ,WoW,EQ2
MMOs tried:SWG,ATitD,Vanguard,Eve
ryzom only starter area quests then its skill building no quests anymore
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.