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You'd be amazed at the number of resumes (CV for our British and Candian friends) that I've thrown into the trash of candidates for a job that requires a college degree, which had major spelling or grammatical errors. If you can't take the time to proof-read before sending it out, I'm not going to waste my time to interview you.
I really pray that it's due to laziness, and not poor education. (This doesn't apply to non-native English speakers. They at least try to learn and improve.)
As an old commercial said, "People really do judge you by the way you speak..." It also applies to how well you write.
Not trying to flame.. but isn't this off-topic?
Epic awesome me
Originally posted by Lell You'd be amazed at the number of resumes (CV for our British and Candian friends) that I've thrown into the trash of candidates for a job that requires a college degree, which had major spelling or grammatical errors. If you can't take the time to proof-read before sending it out, I'm not going to waste my time to interview you.I really pray that it's due to laziness, and not poor education. (This doesn't apply to non-native English speakers. They at least try to learn and improve.)As an old commercial said, "People really do judge you by the way you speak..." It also applies to how well you write.
I wish everyone thought the way you did. The world would actually be a better place. "Teach your children to have manners and they will grow up to be leaders". It's too bad society (the bad society, not the good society) teaches kids all the wrong values. And it's even more amazing how quickly children learn all the wrong values off the internet. If anything, the internet proves that mental disease can spread even through an electronic means... Am I the only person that realizes this?! And when I say "children", that includes teenagers and adults (18+) who still act childish. This is starting to become a major problem and I really don't see any kind of cure for it besides parents not allowing their children to get online or to at least regulate it! Would you want your kids hanging out with a bunch of people who you know are a bad influence on them? When people say "you gotta have common sense", or when a father says "don't be stupid", are those values no longer respected because I'm really starting to see tons of people online who lack common sense.
Originally posted by Arcken The english language is forever morphing. The people dont confirm to fit the language, the language conforms to fit the people. Words like "ain't" and "ya'll" have made their way into the dictionary, so whats so bad about people using shorter terms? I mean for crying out loud Snoop makes up words you can now find in the dictionary m'nizzle, f'sho.
I am sorry, but the punctuation for ya'll is incorrect. It is y'all, because y'all was derived from "you all". For example: "Do you all want to go to the movies?" Instead, southern people use it like so: "Do y'all want to go to the movies?" Note: not all southern people use the word y'all. It is most commonly found in the South Eastern United States.
The use of y'all is more prominent in the south, since that is where it originated from. In the North Eastern U.S. it is highly unlikely you will find someone using it. However, you are more likely to find them saying this instead: "Do you guys want to go to the movies?"
Very interesting indeed, how the English language has changed just from going North to South in the United States, no? Is is also interesting to note that different parts of the U.S. also have their own accents when talking. The different accents of talking and different styles of writing are not inherent to the U.S. only. Several countries around the world have different dialects and accents in their language, even though they are using the same language.
Heck, even the U.S. english language is far different than the English used in the United Kingdom. They still use words such as colour. Why does the U.S. not use the word colour? Because, after the revolutionary war it was a way to rebel against Britian. We changed street names from british lords and queens to the names of our presidents and founding fathers. We also removed several vowels from words in the English language that Britian used and still uses. In theory, the American english language is not only an offset of the British English language, but it is not the original English language either.
Originally posted by Skooma2 I. Your vs you'reyour = belonging to youyou're= contraction for "you are" ( and is different from "your")These words are not interchangeable.II. There vs they're vs theirThere = a different place from the one you currently occupyThey're= contraction for "they are"Their= belonging to themThese words are not interchangeable. I despise illiteracy or intellectual laziness. Get it right before your high school English teachers slap your parents. It takes less than one minute to proofread (you internet generation dancing monkeys might have to look that one up) a post. I'm not talking about typos here ... I'm talking about selecting the correct word in the first place. And, please, do not give me that "you know what I mean" crap. You can point to your mouth and rub your stomach and I know you are hungry ... But it's still not English.
As some already say, many dont care also many are not from english speaking countrys, not all master english language.
And if you think its not english, why bother then?
Dont read it then simple:)
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
yea i dont think any1 does
ok, the next thing here, why the hel are you aquainting Intilect with spelling? does spelling really have anything to do with someones IQ?, and if it does, how?
secondly, language does not always have to stay the same, as you say it does. Language actually splits in o two different languages every few hundred years years, because of so many changed in the, that they basically form distict languages. Why can't things change?, the world is not gonna wait behind for people who can not comprahend it.
thirdly, i think it funny you saying "you internet generation dancing monkeys", why does the internet generation have to wait behind, and change their ways, for people such as you?
fourthly(i dont even know if thats a word) why are you saying so many things about the real world, and how we are going to fail in the real world because we don't use proper grammar in forums and in MMO's. people know that they have to spell right on things such as that, and a colladge aplication is something that people do not rush. don't aquaint what peopel do here to real life, as it is not the always case.
why is it though, that so many things are happening in the world, war, famine, drouts, gas prices, political drama, poverty, wellfare, medicare, and yet, Video games, and places like this, which are meant for entertainment, and to get away from the "real world" being censored by people, for how we use grammar of all things. Flaming about Racism, or eing morbid, or threats and idiocy is one thing, but atacking people about Grammar is something else entirely. let people typ how they want, the internet is the ultimate place for free speech. and "free" speech also encompases how you "speek" your speech
I dont know but, in the real world, the way you present yourself, is very important.Apart from that, Congratulations on your rant
It probably took 10 ten min to proofread what you wrote to make sure you didn't make any typos ...
ReaD books ^_^ that would be more helpful
Originally posted by Beatnik59 Originally posted by Skooma2 I despise illiteracy or intellectual laziness. Get it right before your high school English teachers slap your parents.
Most high school English teachers I know teach English grammar badly, Skooma2.
For example, give me the possessive forms of the following nouns:
To date, no high school English teacher I have met can use the apostrophe correctly in all the above cases.
Oooh! I can do it!
Fonz's or Fonz' is acceptable
I will definitely agree the quality of teaching has taken a sad turn for the worse in the last few years. However, the quality of students (generally speaking, there are exceptions, of course) has also gone down.
In these days when students have more power and rights than the teachers, walk into school with weapons, and have an overall lack of respect for anyone (including themselves), I can't say I blame our educators for not giving a damn. They only start making decent money after they've been teaching for 15 years and by that time they probably can't stand to look at another obnoxious little twit who thinks they're hot shit.
If you want to see an improvement in our education system, you need to start with the students. In order to improve the students, you have to get parents to actually act like parents and teach their kids some proper respect and manners. Sadly, I doubt we'll see that any time soon.
no, actually i never proofread anything except inportant things such as school papers.
This is such a silly thread. My sister was valedictorian of her class in college, but yet I saw her type" OWn3d you n00borz" lmao.
Originally posted by deviliscious This is such a silly thread. My sister was valedictorian of her class in college, but yet I saw her type" OWn3d you n00borz" lmao.
exactly!, just because people type like that does not mean they type like that all the time.
and normally i don't get worked up in threads, but two things that make me mad, are people who act like elitists and fanbois.(and yes, for some reason, people spell "boys" bois when you say that)
it is like taking parts of life out of context, and using it towards others as a weapon. and that is not a good thing. we don't want to turn these forums into the government 0_o
Originally posted by ArchAngel102 Unfortunately for you, society is always changing because thats what humans do. It's a human thing.Eventually the entire english language will be in two forms. Street talk and "Proper English".99% of people will speak regular english, a.k.a. City speak.You're, Your, Their, They're, There- will all melt and form the same word because people decide it's more productive, efficient, easier, and thusly a superior language to get rid of the 3 words to form only one.New words will form, the language itself will change, and eventually it'll be an entirely different language."Yo pops chummer lets go blitz and frag there glitches!"or perhaps a step back in time in addition to the future "Ye olde Frag Face" If this bothers you... you're not really in for it in the future. It already has happened, is happening, and proper english is a minority in the world. The vast majority of people dont know or care about "There they're or their" nor do the vast majority of people even speak english. In fact... in other languages....Thy lv t vwls nd dnt hv ny vwls n thr wrds.In fact... with the invention of the internet and the language of Script (such as Arabic) there are already brand new languages that have formed. Arabic language is typed in english letters as it is spoken. So to say "love you" you could type bahebek bhbk bhebek.This could happen to english just as easily as arabic. Imagine an internet world where there is no proper language, but only typing the sounds of your language.I allweys go tu MMORPG.COM to reed the forumms. If you really can't take people not understanding complex english- you're really in for it because most of the entire world is against you. Just about every other language, anyone who isn't highly educated in English Grammar, anyone with English as a second language, etc. etc.And yes, surprisingly the vast majority of the world actually DOES exist outside of the USA and high-strung grammar nazi socialites.
Although I hate you for being right, you're right.
The English we speak now is not the English spoken 100 or even 10 years ago and will not be the same English spoken 10 years in the future. Regretfully, there's nothing we can do to change it.
You've got to understand something here, people; those who speak 'net speak will eventually being running the world.
Life of an MMORPG "addict" For 7 years, proving that if you quote "fuck" you won't get banned.
Bravo!! The dumbing down of America has taken hold, unless someone says something about it we'll be back in the caveman era once again.
Originally posted by Illius Originally posted by Solude Get over it. Those that make these mistakes probably speak english as a second or third language. I'd bet their french, german, korean... is better than yours
English is my third language. Though I do tend to make mistakes now and again I take every effort to fix it. I learned it properly and I'd at least expect others of the same situation to do so. However for those living overseas in countries where English is not the first or even second language I can somewhat understand.
I fully agree. (It's my second language tho. Not my 3rd).
Small grammar or spelling mistakes... *shrug* but to mess up basic stuff like their and they're is just beyond sloppy. Especially if english is your first language.
Perhaps I'll wax pedantic too. Let me summarize the "illiteracy" and "intellectual laziness" in your post. You have a grasp on the English language equivalent to your average American high school graduate, and for this, you applaud yourself. Your writing displays numerous small or major errors which a rigorous editing process would point out.
To begin with, this kind of list should be bulleted. Yes, there is proper usage for lists, and this is not it. Next, there should be a period following vs in each case (vs. as opposed to vs). Yes, that is the only acceptable spelling. Third, you could easily have written out any of those points as complete sentences without them being overly long or cumbersome, but you didn't, out of laziness. This kind of list should be your second choice if a more complete form of expression is doable. Those are only the errors in the list.
For the paragraph, I will ignore flow problems and deal only with grammatical errors. Using ellipses to indicate a pause is now starting to become acceptable usage, seen even in a few reputable grammar guides, but you're not using it to indicate a pause. Instead, each ellipsis takes the place of more appropriate punctuation. I will post corrected versions below.
You can point to your mouth and rub your stomach, and I will know you are hungry, but it's still not English.
I'm not talking about typos here; I'm talking about selecting the correct word.
I could go on and detail more subtle errors, but I won't. These are the ones which are undeniably wrong, and the others, like your problem with building sentences, are more subjective considerations.
Plus, spelling things wrong on the internet just makes gamers look bad. I mean I can understand the slip here and there, but come on!
Here's to better grammar for gamers!