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damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449

you've got travel power pools.  but not vehicle pools.  why not?  did devs at some point state that adding a motor cycle would be too much?

it could be a handful of power pools, each centered on a vehicle.  perhaps not large vehicles, but smaller ones, such as a motorcycle, a moped, a personal-heli (small helicopter), working jet packs, working wings, working rocket boots, personal submarine, jet ski, horse, mammoth, tiger, etc.

power pools COULD be built around these items.

for example, hover, flight, def/res boost, knockback attack for the wings.

motorcycle could be the actual chopper (horizontal speed + good jumping height?), *armor* (your helmet/costume are biker leathers and give added protection vs smashing/lethal/cold?), biker chain and/or lead pipe -- knockdown and damage for either,

moped could be tailored either for nerd rage or feminine. 

the animals could be pets on a short timer when not riding them.

the various vehicles could come with some 'gadgets' that you have access to.  perhaps some type of gun, harpoon, laser, maybe a spear for the tiger and you get a couple of attack types with it?  it could also be defensive equipment.  take some ideas from sets like munitions, but throw in a vehicle.

 

 

could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

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  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938

    The thing is...what's the point of flying in a helicopter if you can just fly?



    I do, however, like the idea of vehicular combat. That would be fun.

  • Deathstrike2Deathstrike2 Member UncommonPosts: 1,777
    Originally posted by Lydon


    The thing is...what's the point of flying in a helicopter if you can just fly?





    I do, however, like the idea of vehicular combat. That would be fun.



     

    The same reason you pick your costume?  Customization and RP?

     

  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

     The same reason you pick your costume?  Customization and RP?

    For the players maybe, but I personally feel the devs would much rather add new features to the game instead of expand on current features.

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

     The same reason you pick your costume?  Customization and RP?

    For the players maybe, but I personally feel the devs would much rather add new features to the game instead of expand on current features.

     

    like redoing zones?

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

     The same reason you pick your costume?  Customization and RP?

    For the players maybe, but I personally feel the devs would much rather add new features to the game instead of expand on current features.

     

    like redoing zones?

    Yes but that's something that's needed and getting dated. Travel seems just fine as it is. Don't get me wrong...I'd love to see vehicles implemented but amidst redoing zones as you say and everything else they're working on I doubt we'd see it any time soon.

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by Deathstrike2

     The same reason you pick your costume?  Customization and RP?

    For the players maybe, but I personally feel the devs would much rather add new features to the game instead of expand on current features.

     

    like redoing zones?

    Yes but that's something that's needed and getting dated. Travel seems just fine as it is. Don't get me wrong...I'd love to see vehicles implemented but amidst redoing zones as you say and everything else they're working on I doubt we'd see it any time soon.



     

    wouldn't it just require the people who work on powers, to work on the power pools?

     

    i may have misunderstood, but aren't the people who are building/rebuilding zones different from the folks working on powers?  and that they have different people assigned to different areas?

    i mean, the reason we got the VEATs IS because of the wedding pack sales.  otherwise, that issue would've just had next to nothing for new content. 

    unless they're working on another epic AT; what new powers are they adding that they couldn't throw in a 4-power set along with their 1 or 2 10-power sets?  seriously, it was 7 months between issues and that little bit is all we got?

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • jinxitjinxit Member UncommonPosts: 854

    Just after issue 11 came out NCsoft did say that issue 12 would be a small issue and that issue 13 would be a rather large issue, so yes they did warn people in advance that issue 12 wouldnt contain much.

    As for the vehicles and vehicle combat, i personally dont think vehicles are very super heroesque.  Vehicles  and vehicle combat was done before (auto assualt) and we know what happened there.

  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by jinxit


    As for the vehicles and vehicle combat, i personally dont think vehicles are very super heroesque. 

    I have to disagree...what about Batman's Batmobile? ;)

  • jinxitjinxit Member UncommonPosts: 854
    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by jinxit


    As for the vehicles and vehicle combat, i personally dont think vehicles are very super heroesque. 

    I have to disagree...what about Batman's Batmobile? ;)



     

    Lol ok the Batmobile does rock but it has no weaponry per se actually can anyone name one vehicle a comic character has used to mow down bad guys with?...besides tank girl :p

    Then theres that age old comic book question, is batman a hero or just an out right vigilante that just needs a damn good shrink.

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by jinxit

    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by jinxit


    As for the vehicles and vehicle combat, i personally dont think vehicles are very super heroesque. 

    I have to disagree...what about Batman's Batmobile? ;)



     

    Lol ok the Batmobile does rock but it has no weaponry per se actually can anyone name one vehicle a comic character has used to mow down bad guys with?...besides tank girl :p

    Then theres that age old comic book question, is batman a hero or just an out right vigilante that just needs a damn good shrink.



     

    depending on which comic, cartoon, movie you're watching/reading ALL of batman's many vehicles seem to have offensive and defensive weapons/capabilities.

    as does superman's supermobile.  pretty sure wonder woman's invisible jet has missiles + other stuff.  fantastic four's vehicles come in all shapes and sizes with all sorts of weapons and defenses. 

    of course villain vehicles come with weapons and/or means to enhance their escape.

     

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • AmarsirAmarsir Member UncommonPosts: 703


    Originally posted by jinxit
    Just after issue 11 came out NCsoft did say that issue 12 would be a small issue and that issue 13 would be a rather large issue, so yes they did warn people in advance that issue 12 wouldnt contain much.

    That was an early statement though. VEATs were supposed to be in i13 but they got moved up, as damian7 says, because the extra Wedding Sale cash gave them enough budget to make the push.

    I say this to manage future expectations. I don't know what's in i13, but when they said it was large compared to a small 12 they were expecting VEATS to be one issue later.

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  • YeeboYeebo Member UncommonPosts: 1,361

    While I think making vehicles and option for some of the existing travel powers would be great (for example, with fly your choice of jetpack, invisible plane, or helecopter), adding them in would be too muhc work.  I mean if you could ride a vehicle in game, wouldn't you like to be able to customize it?

    I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.

  • themiltonthemilton Member Posts: 353
    Originally posted by damian7

    Originally posted by jinxit

    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by jinxit


    As for the vehicles and vehicle combat, i personally dont think vehicles are very super heroesque. 

    I have to disagree...what about Batman's Batmobile? ;)



     

    Lol ok the Batmobile does rock but it has no weaponry per se actually can anyone name one vehicle a comic character has used to mow down bad guys with?...besides tank girl :p

    Then theres that age old comic book question, is batman a hero or just an out right vigilante that just needs a damn good shrink.



     

    depending on which comic, cartoon, movie you're watching/reading ALL of batman's many vehicles seem to have offensive and defensive weapons/capabilities.

    as does superman's supermobile.  pretty sure wonder woman's invisible jet has missiles + other stuff.  fantastic four's vehicles come in all shapes and sizes with all sorts of weapons and defenses. 

    of course villain vehicles come with weapons and/or means to enhance their escape.

     

    What about the Turtle-van? and KITT? and the Arrowcar?

     

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  • Wizziokid091Wizziokid091 Member Posts: 20

     yeh i suggested this for DCUO it would be great to drive round get  a couple of mates in your car etc. go run down some mobs.

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  • DrowNobleDrowNoble Member UncommonPosts: 1,297

    Cars don't really fit into the comic book theme.  Not many comic heroes (or villains) I know of used vehicles exclusively.  Michael Knight was not a comic hero.

    They did imply that Shields would be a new powerset.  With the new roman zone we have seen some shield use in action.  I think I also read an interview where they mentioned "witchcraft", can't remember where I read it though.  Would make a good MM powerset.

    Plus I think MM's should be able to have female pets if they want.

  • AmarsirAmarsir Member UncommonPosts: 703

    Vehicles would be far, far, far more difficult than any of you are taking into consideration.

    Characters take up a set amount of space. Add on even a motorcycle (let alone a car) and suddenly that's several extra feet in front of or in back of you that can't interset with everything. That's a whole new skeleton, switching at will with your normal one, for male, female, and huge, for every costume in the game. A conservative estimate would be 5000 hours of manpower, not counting that you've doubled all work for all future looks.

    What happens if you use a power while driving? Now every animation needs to be redone for every power or reaction in the game, using the new skeleton and adapting to your seated position. That's another 5000 hours of manpower. And again, it doubles the work of any animation they ever do.

    A motorcycle looks pretty stupid rotating around the center point. Want it to look good turning? Guess what, tons more animator time.

    Not just the animators would be busy though. Right now you can have Flight, Super Jump, and Super Speed all on at the same time if you want to. Flying around while sitting on a motorcycle might be worth a chuckle at first, but it looks incredibly stupid so the powers system would have to be changed to block that.

    And I'm probably forgetting like 3-4 things. This request isn't even remotely on the achieveable scale.

    As for simpler options like rocket packs or boots: Well rocket packs exist, several different models. They're not an official costume piece though because if you ever look closely at them you will realize they don't actually look very good with a lot of models. They clip with capes, they dig into the body on huge models, they warp when your arms swing for powers, etc etc. But the effect was wanted enought that it's easy to get them.

    Rocket boots are a costume piece. Go to Wentworths / Black market and you can get the recipe for like 5000 inf or less. Just use it with regular fly, and jets will shoot out of the bottom. Winged boots are the same way.

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