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NATIONAL suicide(important read)

rawrxbradrawrxbrad Member UncommonPosts: 117

Provided by: Kraig and Shirley Carroll

Controversial fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl Fluoride).







Sodium fluoride, a hazardous-waste by-product from the manufacture of aluminum, is a common ingredient in rat and cockroach poisons, anesthetics, hypnotics, psychiatric drugs, and military nerve gas. It’s historically been quite expensive to properly dispose of, until some aluminum industries with an overabundance of the stuff sold the public on the terrifically insane but highly profitable idea of buying it at a 20,000% markup, injecting in into our water supplies, and then DRINKING it.







Yes, 20,000% markup: Fluoride – intended only for human consumption by people under 14 years of age – is injected into our drinking water supply at approx. 1 part-per-million (ppm), but since we only drink ½ of one percent of the total water supply, the rest literally goes down the drain as a free hazardous-waste disposal for the chemical industry, where we PAY them so that we can flush their expensive hazardous waste down our toilets. How many salesman dream of such a deal? (Follow the money.



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Independent scientific evidence repeatedly showing up over the past 50 years reveals that fluoride allegedly shortens our life span, promotes cancer and various mental disturbances, accelerates osteoporosis and broken hips in old folks, and makes us stupid, docile, and subservient, all in one package. There are reports of aluminum in the brain possibly being a causative factor in Alzheimer’s Disease, and evidence points towards fluoride’s strong affinity for aluminum and also its ability to "trick" the blood-brain barrier by looking like the hydrogen ion, and thus allowing chemical access to brain tissue.







Scientists who have attempted to blow the whistle on this mega-bucks PR ploy have consistently been given a very unscientific Black-PR treatment, and thus their valid points disputing the current vested interests never arrive in the press. Follow the money to find the control. In 1952 the slick PR campaign which ramrodded the concept of fluoridation through via our Public Health departments and various dental organizations was likened to a highly-emotional "beer-salesman’s convention" instead of the objective scientific experiment which it should properly have been. It’s continued in that vein right up to present time. To illustrate the emotional vs. the scientific nature of this issue, just look at the response given by people (perhaps yourself included?) when the subject of fluoridation comes up. Ask yourself, "Is this response EMOTIONAL BLUSTER, or is it UNBIASED AND OPENLY - INTERESTED OBJECTIVITY?" There is a tremendous amount of emotional, highly unscientific know-it-all! attached to fluoridation. Many truly independent (unattached to any vested-interest) scientists who’ve spent a large portion of their lives studying and working with this subject have been subjected to a surprising amount of uncalled-for and unfair character assassination from strong vested-interest groups who profit from the public’s ignorance as well as from their illnesses. (Follow the money.



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Do you have diabetes or kidney disease? There are reportedly more than 11 million Americans with diabetes. Since many diabetics drink more liquids than other people, then according to the Physicians Desk Reference these 11 million Americans probably shouldn’t drink fluoridated water, because in doing so, they’ll receive an excessive dose of fluoride.







Kidney disease, by definition, lowers the efficiency of the kidneys, which is your main route of fluoride elimination. – So those people with kidney disease also shouldn’t drink fluoridated water. Cases are on record (Annapolis, Maryland, 1979) where kidney patients on dialysis machines died, due to fluoride overdose in the city water supply.



Let’s begin at the beginning:



The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany’s Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride’s supposed effect on children’s teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.



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The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr.



Charles Perkins, a chemist:



"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff." In the 1930's , Hitler and the German Nazi’s envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place...



Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual’s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.



[A convenient light lobotomy]



The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children’s teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.







When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world...



I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years’ research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine – any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically." Charles E. Perkins, Chemist, 2 October 1954.







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Quoting Einsein’s nephew, Dr. E.H.



Bronner ( a chemist who had also been a prisoner of war during WWII) in a letter printed in The Catholic Mirror, Springfield, MA, January 1952:



"It appears that the citizens of Massachusetts are among the ‘next’ on the agenda of the water poisoners.







There is a sinister network of subversive agents, Godless ‘intellectual’ parasites, working in our country today whose ramifications grow more extensive, more successful and more alarming each new year and whose true objective is to demoralize, paralyze and destroy our great Republic – from within if they can, according to their plan – for their own possession. The tragic success they have already attained in their long siege to destroy the moral fiber of American life is now one of their most potent footholds towards their own ultimate victory over us.







Fluoridation of our community water systems can well become their most subtle weapon for our sure physical and mental deterioration...



As a research chemist of established standing, I built within the past 22 years, 3 American chemical plants and licensed 6 of my 53 patents. Based on my years of practical experience in the health-food and chemical field, let me warn: fluoridation of drinking water is criminal insanity, sure national suicide. Don’t do it.







"Even in the small quantities, sodium fluoride is a deadly poison to which no effective antidote has been found. Every exterminator knows that it is the most efficient rat-killer. ...Sodium fluoride is entirely different from organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate needed by our bodies and provided by nature, in God’s great providence and love, to build and strengthen our bones and our teeth. This organic calcium-fluoro-phosphate, derived from proper foods, is an edible organic salt, insoluble in water and assimilable by the human body, whereas the non-organic sodium fluoride used in fluoridating water is instant poison to the body and fully water soluble. The body refuses to assimilate it. Careful, bonafide laboratory experimentation by conscientious, patriotic research chemists, and actual medical experience, have both revealed that instead of preserving or promoting ‘dental health,’ fluoridated drinking water destroys teeth, before adulthood and after, by the destructive mottling and other pathological conditions it actually causes in them, and also creates many other grave pathological conditions in the internal organisms of bodies consuming it. How can it be called a "health" plan? What’s behind it? That any so-called "doctors" would persuade a civilized nation to add voluntarily a deadly poison to its drinking water systems is unbelievable. It is the height of criminal insanity. No wonder Hitler and Stalin fully believed and agreed from 1939 to 1941 that, quoting from both Lenin’s Last Will and Hitler’s Mein Kampf: "America we shall demoralize, divide, and destroy from within."...



Are our Civil Defense organizations and agencies awake to the perils of water poisoning by fluoridation? Its use has been recorded in other countries. Sodium fluoride water solutions are the cheapest and most effective rat killers known to chemists: colorless, odorless, tasteless; no antidote, no remedy, no hope: Instant and complete extermination of rats...



Fluoridation of water systems can be slow national suicide, or quick national liquidation. It is criminal insanity – treason!" DR. E. H. Bronner, Mfg. Research Chemist, Los Angeles.







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Earliest available Russian fluoride evidence:



"I, Oliver Kenneth Goff, was a member of the Communist Party and the Young Communist League, from May 2, 1936, to October 9, 1939. During this period of time, I operated under the alias of John Keats with number 18-B-2. My testimony before the Government is in Volume 9 of the Un-American Activities Report for 1939.







While a member of the Communist Party, I attended Communist training schools in New York and Wisconsin...and we were trained in the revolutionary overthrow of the U.S. Government. ...We discussed quite thoroughly the fluoridation of water supplies and how we were using it in Russia as a tranquilizer in the prison camps. The leaders of our school felt that if it could be induced into the American water supply, it would bring about a spirit of lethargy in the nation, where it could keep the general public docile during a steady encroachment of Communism. We also discussed the fact that keeping a store of deadly fluoride near the water reservoir would be advantageous during the time of the revolution, as it would give us opportunity to dump this poison into the water supply and either kill off the populace or threaten them with liquidation, so that they would surrender to obtain fresh water.







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Related Research:



The Crime and Punishment of I.G.



Farben by Joseph Borkin (out of print book search)



Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride by Bernard Meyer Wagner



Fluoridation: The Great Dilemma by George L.



Waldbott



Fluoride the Aging Factor: How to Recognize and Avoid the Devastating Effects of Fluoride by John, Dr.



Yiamouyiannis



Scientific Knowledge in Controversy: The Social Dynamics of the Fluoridation Debate by Brian Martin



Medical Mafia by Guylaine Lanctot



Racketeering in Medicine by James P.



Carter



The Cure for All Diseases by Dr.



Hulda Regehr Clark



Censured for Curing Cancer: The American Experience of Dr. Max Gerson by S.J.



Haught



And special thanks to Kraig and Shirley Carroll in the hills of SE Kentucky

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Comments

  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657

    So continue paying $4.00/gallon for bottled water.  It's unfluoridated.

    "I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone.  It's not.  The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone."  Robin Williams
  • rawrxbradrawrxbrad Member UncommonPosts: 117

    I should of put the title as Mylie Cyrus

    alot more people would responded lol

    honestly i think its a serious issue but oh well.

  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

    I would agree its a serious issue.  Considering that the first instance of fluoridated water was when the Germans wanted to keep the prisoners in the concentration camps sedated.  Later they started putting it in our water.  Cause they care about your teeth so much... *chuckle*

     I drink bottled water.  I'm just not interested in the zombification effect.  I know a lot of people enjoy it, but its not for me.

  • nurglesnurgles Member Posts: 840

    Originally posted by rawrxbrad


    Provided by: Kraig and Shirley Carroll

    Controversial fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl Fluor

    ide).




    wow, that is the worst reasoning ever. flouride (actually flourine in the compound PROZAC) is bad because it is in toxic or mind altering materials. um, hydrogen, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, the basic building blocks of life are also in PROZAC. Cyanide is a simple diatomic anion of carbon and nitrogen, deadly poisonous, but you arn't about to give up protein  in your diet are you.

    The article uses an illusion of knowledge to inspire an emotive responce with no logic attached to it.

     

  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356

    Originally posted by nurgles
     
    .......The article uses an illusion of knowledge to inspire an emotive responce with no logic attached to it.
     
    Which is why it is a good topic of discussion thread on this forum....

     

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    Originally posted by nurgles


     
    Originally posted by rawrxbrad


    Provided by: Kraig and Shirley Carroll

    Controversial fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl Fluor

    ide).




     

    wow, that is the worst reasoning ever. flouride (actually flourine in the compound PROZAC) is bad because it is in toxic or mind altering materials. um, hydrogen, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, the basic building blocks of life are also in PROZAC. Cyanide is a simple diatomic anion of carbon and nitrogen, deadly poisonous, but you arn't about to give up protein  in your diet are you.

    The article uses an illusion of knowledge to inspire an emotive responce with no logic attached to it.

     

    QFE

    I was about to say the same thing but you beat me to it.

    I dont recommend Prozac tho because i think its a drug that needs further testing (not because of the flouride) but because of the post suicidal thoughts it can bring in a younger person.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • BigdavoBigdavo Member UncommonPosts: 1,863

    The atricle lost all credibility when it started going on about fluoride being a means of controlling people politcally. Began to sound like another conspiracy theory.

    O_o o_O

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    They just remove it from our city water supplie as well as about half the cities in the province of quebec.  The provincial government was slightly displeased but they say it is of municipal juridiction.

     

    Soo many things to consider...to...

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    Uhh aren't you just talking about toothpaste.  Also usually anything that goes down the drain/toilet, gets sent to a sanitizing plant.

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  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

    Originally posted by CleffyII


    Uhh aren't you just talking about toothpaste.  Also usually anything that goes down the drain/toilet, gets sent to a sanitizing plant.
    Um no, we're talking about the poison that is intentionally put in the public water supply.

    Maybe the skull & crossbones sign should have been our first clue that putting it in the drinking water might not have been such a great plan. 

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    lol more conspiracy theorists...probably all the same people, but okay.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • goneglockingoneglockin Member UncommonPosts: 706

    No Cleffy- flouride is added purposely into the drinking water supply on the pretense that it's good for your teeth...  Even if that may be- I feel the suspected or possible risks associated with flouride in the drinking water aren't worth it.  If I want to take care of my teeth- I'll brush them.  I don't need the government adding chemicals in the water to look out for my teeth, nor does anyone else.

    Personally I think it's a load of crap and it doesn't get the serious attention it deserves.

    Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.

  • TechleoTechleo Member Posts: 1,984

      Its not so much the flouride that is dangerous, its the amount of flouride in the water thats deadly. We actually need small amounts of several toxic minerals just to survive. Our biology is peculiar that way.

    That being said the safe exposure levels is well below what youd find in a average cities water supply. Fortunately some cities dont put flouride in there water supply. The city I live in doesnt. I use well water though from a VERY deep source. That has its own risks. You can find heavy metals which arent even detected in most water supply tests. Which I took into consideration and had a full spectrum test, OUCH that cost a lot.

     Safe to say I have some of the safest water in town fortunately. Oh and by the way, deep subsurface water actually is very good for crops. I did a little experiment with my neighbor and his shallow well, above 100 feet, seems to actually take more of to water his crops. My well is below 300 feet. It actually sits smack in the middle of a subterranean river. 130 gallons per minute. Hell of a lot of waterflow hehe.

  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

    Originally posted by Draenor


    lol more conspiracy theorists...probably all the same people, but okay.

    Clearly a fluoride drinker.

     

  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832

    "Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream."

    "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works"

     

     

    "If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"

  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

    Baron, posting a quote from a 40 year old comedy movie might not be all that impressive in light of actual scientific evidence.  Just a thought. 

  • EcranomicalEcranomical Member Posts: 326

    The stuff is in tooth paste as well.

    I see where some people can worry, but we're subjected to toxins left, right and centre (Yes i'm Canadian). Whether it is intentionally or not is another question. You can't really live in our modern day society and worry about every little thing, or else you won't be doing anything (I'm not saying that we have to take things the way they are, but you gotta' roll with it I guess).

     

    But its always good to be aware of whats happening.

  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832

    Originally posted by Blomi


    Baron, posting a quote from a 40 year old comedy movie might not be all that impressive in light of actual scientific evidence.  Just a thought. 
    I think the movie and this "Scientific evidence" are both comedic gold. 

    "If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"

  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200
    Originally posted by BaronJuJu


     
    Originally posted by Blomi


    Baron, posting a quote from a 40 year old comedy movie might not be all that impressive in light of actual scientific evidence.  Just a thought. 
    I think the movie and this "Scientific evidence" are both comedic gold. 

     



    Perhaps it would be best for you to leave the thinking to those more qualified to do it.  Now, theres a cleanup needed in isle 5.  Your presence is requested. 

  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832
    Originally posted by Blomi

    Originally posted by BaronJuJu


     
    Originally posted by Blomi


    Baron, posting a quote from a 40 year old comedy movie might not be all that impressive in light of actual scientific evidence.  Just a thought. 
    I think the movie and this "Scientific evidence" are both comedic gold. 

     



    Perhaps it would be best for you to leave the thinking to those more qualified to do it.



    That rules you out then.

    "If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    I'm surprised the OP didn't quote Air Force General Jack D. Ripper in there somewhere as well (See Dr. Strangelove). It's all a Communist plot to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!!! LOL It was just as funny in the mid sixties as it is now. You guys that believe this crap need to loosen your tinfoil hats a little, they are compressing your brains I think.

     

    Bren

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  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200

    Originally posted by Brenelael


    I'm surprised the OP didn't quote Air Force General Jack D. Ripper in there somewhere as well (See Dr. Strangelove). It's all a Communist plot to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!!! LOL It was just as funny in the mid sixties as it is now. You guys that believe this crap need to loosen your tinfoil hats a little, they are compressing your brains I think.
     
    Bren

    Oh oops.  I forgot that if you are not aware of something that it does not exist.  Sorry.  Thanks for setting us straight! 

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Originally posted by Blomi

    Originally posted by BaronJuJu


     
    Originally posted by Blomi


    Baron, posting a quote from a 40 year old comedy movie might not be all that impressive in light of actual scientific evidence.  Just a thought. 
    I think the movie and this "Scientific evidence" are both comedic gold. 

     



    Perhaps it would be best for you to leave the thinking to those more qualified to do it.  Now, theres a cleanup needed in isle 5.  Your presence is requested. 

    LOL......do you always fall back on insults when losing an argument? I think maybe you need to let someone else do the thinking for a bit as your logic is flawed to say the least. Fluoride is about as poisonous as Milk in the form that they use for Fluoridation of water and toothpaste.

     

    Bren

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  • BlomiBlomi Member Posts: 200
    Originally posted by Brenelael


     
    Originally posted by Blomi

    Originally posted by BaronJuJu


     
    Originally posted by Blomi


    Baron, posting a quote from a 40 year old comedy movie might not be all that impressive in light of actual scientific evidence.  Just a thought. 
    I think the movie and this "Scientific evidence" are both comedic gold. 

     



    Perhaps it would be best for you to leave the thinking to those more qualified to do it.  Now, theres a cleanup needed in isle 5.  Your presence is requested. 

    LOL......do you always fall back on insults when losing an argument? I think maybe you need to let someone else do the thinking for a bit as your logic is flawed to say the least. Fluoride is about as poisonous as Milk in the form that they use for Fluoridation of water and toothpaste.

     

     

    Bren

    ...Says the guy that gets his knowledge from comedic movies. 

  • BrenelaelBrenelael Member UncommonPosts: 3,821

    Originally posted by Blomi


     
    Originally posted by Brenelael


    I'm surprised the OP didn't quote Air Force General Jack D. Ripper in there somewhere as well (See Dr. Strangelove). It's all a Communist plot to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!!! LOL It was just as funny in the mid sixties as it is now. You guys that believe this crap need to loosen your tinfoil hats a little, they are compressing your brains I think.
     
    Bren

     

    Oh oops.  I forgot that if you are not aware of something that it does not exist.  Sorry.  Thanks for setting us straight! 

    ][_, {()} ][_, ......... Your attempt to insult me has failed miserably as I didn't even elude that it didn't exist, just that it isn't as dangerous as all the people that see conspiracies everywhere would like you to believe. Fluoridation does exist and serves a very good purpose. Just because you see evil everywhere doesn't mean it exists or that the rest of us have to buy into your paranoia. If you want to sit in your closet wearing your 'The end is near' t-shirt and your tinfoil hat.....more power to you. I hope you have one hell of a time doing it.

     

    Bren

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