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Even the Devs come back...
Obraik
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Swede (long known as the "Space Dev") has returned to SWG again 
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=614931�
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Ya and?
Keep deluding yourself my friend. Until you can share some major enhancements/changes to the game of note that would appeal to players with some brain and which inlcudes a complete revamp of the UI, player inter-dependancy, player-driven economy, background content, decay, true to the SW lore, in-depth and meaningful objectives/missions/gameplay (ie meaningful and useful city structures, bases, GCW, professions...) you will convince no one this NGE is worth our time and money.
Swede took this job and will do exactly what SOE tells him to do and say, which is more of what we have seen all along and more NGE.
They can't even properly describe what will come in chapter 9 not to mention a clear roadmap of where the NGE is going. From that to actualy doing something of note we are talking light years my man.
Might help them with JTL that they admitted they had to reverse engineer to make changes to.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Maybe he couldnt find work cause he worked on SWG....
Whats that old saying about comming back to the sceen of the crime :P
He had been working with Space Time Studios after he left SWG.
Ya know I'm waiting for one of the 'upset vets' to make the post of "omg well no one would hire him cuz he worked on the NGE!!!"
Still you guys are right on.... Games that are about to die get new or returning Dev's all the time.
Or desperate times call for desperate measures?
He had been working with Space Time Studios after he left SWG.
So he worked on the project NCsoft shitcanned?
Hardly a roaring success story for SWG, nice try though Obraik, your persistance is admirable.
Can't counter an argument with a valid discussion point? Fishermage(aka Fisherprice) recommends you cut and paste: ad hominem
"You will come to the conclusion that the only people crazier than the managers who thought this a good idea are those who put up with it and pay for it." - Salvaje (who paid to play the NGE for 18 months) /golfclap
This means he worked for Freeman. Hardly a resume enhancer. Could be his role in the NGE had something to do with unemployability.
Makes me wonder what was wrong with the BW version. Notice they changed their opinion of “sandbox games” at this year’s GDC, from what they said last year. Now their MMO will most likely end up being something else. That is if LEC decides to go with SOE
And where does this news come from?
And where does this news come from?
From what I was told it was totally out of left field with LEC, but yet typical. I don't like the idea of SOE possibly doing it, but it wouldn't surprise me since I seem to remember that Nancy McIntyre stating that if another SW MMO would be made, in say 2009, it would have the Micro transactions in it that Smed talked so much about. Then all of a sudden things went silent and rumors of BW started, now rumors on the BW front have gone silent and I hear this.
It might not be that SOE lost the rights to do SWG as people originally thought, as it was more the lost the rights to make the next SW MMO to BioWare. Now from what I hear LEC has gone back to SOE.
hm... someone go away from a mess up project, the new one got cancelled and then return to the mess up one....
I realize the bitter swg veterans are still upset (I was one of them untill I tried the game again and, guess what, I'm having a blast) but seriously, you guys have been predicting doom and gloom for swg for what, two years now? How many times have you said the game is dead? Yet it still keeps moving along.
Yes, server pops are low, but those of us who have returned are having fun. Most likely more fun than you're having whining on the forums about the game.
**Returned SWG Player**
Yeah, I used to hate the game because of NGE as much as anyone, but I've been playing the game since Feb. 2008 and have honestly had a good time. If you hate the game, fantastic, move along. Its all been said before and your continuous griefing just makes you look like a sad individual with nothing better to do.
For the bitter vets there is no news that they cannot spin to show/prove the demise of the game. The fact that the game still is going on, getting new content and updates must really get under their skin even now .
New content and updates for a game that has 1/5 the subscribers that it had before 15 November 2005.
You fail to understand that we're hurting these people by not sending them money.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Show us hard number of the current SWG as of right now and then compare them to CU, PRe-CU era and tell me that the game is doing well......... Show me where that the game is doing well...
And if Lucasarts goes with SOE to make a new Star Wars MMO I wont be paying to play it .... they will frack it up just like they did this one, bug lists longer than a mile, major changes to game play, constant nerfs that are not needed... I can go on and on but Im not....
I fully understand that for a small segment of the former SWG population it is a mission you are on to never give any money to SOW ever again and to try your best to keep any new players from ever playing this game as it stands now. I find it strange though that in the last few months the anti-SWG vets pointed to the "noob devs" as a reason why the game could never get better. Now they have one back and (he confirmed today that his hire was a addition to the dev team not a replacment for someone) it still goom and doom predictions.
How can the game support more devs if there is no player base? It would seem to me that the hiring of personal is a indication as to the direction the game is headed. No business hires more people if the revenue is sliding.
Defend em all you want I don't care, they will never get 1 cent from me again, even pre cu would not bring me back. why you ask. Friends don't let friends play $oe games.....
I just come here for laughs.
Insert payed fanboi flame here
Well I certainly am not here to defend anything.
I had seen that Swede returned and wondered about it.
I think people are a tad harsh in how they worded what happened with Space Time Studios. That was most likely a reaction to the money lost on Tabula Rasa and some projects had to be closed.
Oh and I am a Richard Garriott fanbio if I ever could be a fanboi.. but its hard to argue that TR didn't lose money and there is a reaction from NCSoft to how they are doing overall.
I thought Space Time Studios was still doing the project on their own last I heard..
Oh and Swede worked there before Freeman was hired there.. so not sure how he worked "for" Freeman because he worked at spacetime... (the logic path is a bit muddled there).
I guess I'm just suprised that SOE would actually ADD to the SWG team... rather than replace... someone.
C'mon you have to find that odd...
As to the post about BioWare and LA falling out of favor on some joint MMO where does that news come from again?
If it was true.. in any way... my guess would be the problem was... EA.
EA is probably the only company that could be worse than SOE.
Then again I was never sure I bought into the idea that BioWare was doing a Star Wars MMO... a cross platform game perhaps.. but never thought that was their MMO project.
Glad to see him back on the team!
New content and updates for a game that has 1/5 the subscribers that it had before 15 November 2005.
You fail to understand that we're hurting these people by not sending them money.
Sigh....
You fail to realize that your not.... you are NOT hurting SOE for money. Sony has more money than god. Countless 0's after a 1. You and the combined efforts of ALL swg vets on planet earth have NOT hurt Sony.
I keep banging my head off of a wall trying to figure out how damn simple minded people have to be to think they made any impact on SOE what-so-ever. You guys hurt SWG's population. That is all, and yes you stopped giving SOE money, but SWG doesn't make up SOE. MANY games make up SOE. Also SOE is just a small part of SONY.
Its like this EVERYONE stopped using microsoft windows on computers and never bought another microsoft product ever. You would cripple Bill Gates and Microsoft.
Now if EVERYONE stopped buying 1 Microsoft Gaming Studio game like Halo 3 (Microsoft does own this game and bungie) you wouldn't even dent Microsoft or impact it by any margin they would deem as "hurting them". <---- this is an example of what SWG vets have done to SOE and more specifically SONY. You stopped buying and playing 1 title out of a library of titles, and not only that you stopped using 1 product out of an OCEAN of products that Sony makes and produces worldwide.
Congratz SWG Vets.