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cloverfield?

herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,923

got to be the worst movie i have seen in the last few years.

Anyone else agrees?

 

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  • 8hammer88hammer8 Member Posts: 1,812

    A) Horrible poll...come on...really 3 options, I thought it was a great film, not quite amazing but much better than either of your two other options.

    B) I really enjoyed the movie and the style...I thought it was cool how they get you learning about the people's lives ( I almost forgot that this movie had a monster in it) and then boom, throw everything into disarray.  The take on the monster was okay, I would have prefered actually that they never showed the full thing just glimpses of what it might be and the scale.  I also enjoyed the Blair Witch Project and saw it before the hype and this was obviously reimincient of that.

    "It is easier to be cruel than wise. The road to wisdom is long and difficult... so most people just turn out to be assholes" Feng (Christopher Walken)

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 11,861

    I thought that it was a very well thought out film.  I left the theater thinking.. man.. what the hell happened? What was that thing, where did it come from.. .so many questions that just never got answered.

    But it wasn't about that so much as it was about the story.. and the story was told incredibly well. 

    Unfortunately my girlfriend couldn't watch it, it made her sick with the camera being all jumpy.  She said it sounded like a good movie though from what she heard :o



  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    I thought the movie was awful. Shakey camera work; I know it was intentional, but it was sickening. Made me think of the Blair Witch Project. The concept was ok, but who's actually going to run around with this stupid camera when something like that is going on? And...when you pause a video cam, you don't get flashbacks of what was recorded before, it just stops until you record again.  If my brother had just been killed by a giant monster and you came up to me and stuck a video camera in my face I'd shove it so far up your ass that you'd be involuntarily filming a documentary about the inner workings of the upper digestive tract.

     

    Good concept....poorly executed.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 11,861

    hmm thats actually a very good point about stopping the camera, I mean I've done that before and although sometimes it doesn't pick it up right where I left off, it doesn't show like 2 minutes of video before it picks back up.

    Altogether the camera work was kinda what I expected. I think overall the movie was fantastic for what it was. 



  • 8hammer88hammer8 Member Posts: 1,812

    Originally posted by xaldraxius


    I thought the movie was awful. Shakey camera work; I know it was intentional, but it was sickening. Made me think of the Blair Witch Project. The concept was ok, but who's actually going to run around with this stupid camera when something like that is going on? And...when you pause a video cam, you don't get flashbacks of what was recorded before, it just stops until you record again.  If my brother had just been killed by a giant monster and you came up to me and stuck a video camera in my face I'd shove it so far up your ass that you'd be involuntarily filming a documentary about the inner workings of the upper digestive tract.
     
    Good concept....poorly executed.
    Shakey camera work...yes intentional...but you knew that going into it didn't you?  I know when I went, they made me read some stupid paper.

    As for the flash backs...I saw them a movie devices...a) let your eyes rest a little because there was a lot less motion to those sense, also to keep your feelings of loss and hope going.  There is no sound in space either but starwars and startrek get passes on that, why because it is a movie device.  Just watch and try to enjoy

    Also...that would have been one impressive shove to get the camera up that far...probably would have got a lot of hits on youtube.  I took it for shock and found that it was not all that wierd...however, I was expecting a slap of the camera away from him as well....OP should put a SPOILERS Alert on this.

    "It is easier to be cruel than wise. The road to wisdom is long and difficult... so most people just turn out to be assholes" Feng (Christopher Walken)

  • LaserwolfLaserwolf Member Posts: 2,383

    I loved the movie. I went to see it only because a friend wanted to go, and while everyone was having orgasms about the trailer I thought it looked like 100 other movies I had seen before. However, I really loved the style of the movie and the way it really re-defines "Monster Movies".  I enjoyed Signs for the same reason. I am tired of watching the reaction of the President, the Mayor, a Scientist, or a soldier to Alien/Creature Attacks, or incoming meteors. I want to view it from the eyes of the average person with a tiny bit of media and a lot of confusion. Yes the characters' reactions seemed a bit lame, but the acting was very "real" to me, and I think it is highly likely that in a situation where you and everyone else can die at any moment, the loss of a loved one may be treated with more numbness than wailing.

     

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  • slannmageslannmage Member Posts: 540

    i found it annoying looking at a shakey cam the whole time so i just ended up fingering my g/f in the cinema

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249

    Alright, so saying that I thought it was awful was taking it a bit too far. I kinda liked it, but I felt it had a lot of plot holes in it.  Like: How'd they get down to the 34th floor on that one building from the roof? They didn't show it, and you know the stairway would have had to have collapsed, but yes, it's a movie and you give them a break here and there, so I didn't list it as a major detraction. Do video camera's come with night vision standard now? You know the military wouldn't have let them go after the girl. Why did the dude just stand there and let himself be eaten? And what the heck does the name Cloverfield have to do with anything? I know that was the government's name for the thing, but why? Of course that may be info that they will cover in the next movie. Too many unanswered questions makes me think they are at least thinking about a sequel.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member EpicPosts: 11,861

    See thats the thing, I had no clue what cloverfield had to do with ANYTHING.  I mean there were tons of unanswered questions, but I've got to say that a sequel would be kinda tough to make.  On the one hand you can look at it from a scientists point of view, on trying to find out what the creature was and where it came from, but overall I think it would be just a tough act to follow and still keep the movie fresh and exciting.  Unless of course they didn't end up killing the monster and this is a documentary of what steps they've taken to combat it.

    So on the one hand I really want to know what the hell the thing was and whether or not they killed it, and why everything happened the way it did but on the other hand if they do a sequel and try to mimick the style but end up screwing up the story it's really going to piss me off.



  • mithrandir72mithrandir72 Member Posts: 1,286

    Biggest problem I had was believing that the girl who was impaled was able to suddenly run around like nothing had happened, without a drop of blood. Not to mention the fact that I would've put the wounded girl on the 'copter first. Of course, when she's running around without the slightest wince, I guess its hard to remember she was only moments ago run through by some concrete rebar.

    I was also never really excited by the movie. Too predictable. Jerky Camera movements didn't add tension, just made me pissed off that I couldn't see things clearly. Overall, I'll probably see the sequel, but only to fill in all the huge amounts of gaps left by the story.

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  • LaserwolfLaserwolf Member Posts: 2,383

    Do video camera's come with night vision standard now?

    Most of them do. I know the so-so one I have had for 7-8 years has it.

    You know the military wouldn't have let them go after the girl.

    I thought so too, but remember the situation wasn't "under control", they didn't have time to waste with a handful of people, and this a completely unreal situation.

    Lastly they code-named the movie Cloverfield after the street the Production Studio is on, I believe. They kept the name because they couldn't think of anything better and it actually makes for a good title.

    As for a sequel, this movie was very very cheap and made tons of money. So chances are they will do another.

     

    Other than where the creature came from, what gaps are there?

    Also I have read that during the final scene of them on the Ferris Wheel at Coney Island you can see something large fall into the ocean way in the background. I never saw it but I wasn't looking for it. If so then you know it was an alien so now no more questions.

    *Edit* I did some research on the ending and apparently they do show the creature falling into the ocean. Also after the credits there is a short audio recording that is too messed up to make out. A website posted however, and forwards it says "Help Us" while backwards it clearly says "It's Still Alive". I had heard it in theaters but forgot to look it up. I assumed the couple survived because I understood that they were going to Nuke the city and if they had, the resulting EMP would have destroyed the camera. Or at least I assume it would have.

    Link for Audio recording front and back: www.canmag.com/nw/10222-cloverfield-final-moments

    Oh, and as for spoilers, I don't really give a crap. If someone hasn't seen Cloverfield yet, intends to see it, and chooses to read a post titled "Cloverfield" weeks after the movie came out, they deserve to have it spoiled.

     

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  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,083
    Originally posted by slannmage


    i found it annoying looking at a shakey cam the whole time so i just ended up fingering my g/f in the cinema



    Well played, sir.

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  • mithrandir72mithrandir72 Member Posts: 1,286

    Originally posted by modjoe86

    Originally posted by slannmage


    i found it annoying looking at a shakey cam the whole time so i just ended up fingering my g/f in the cinema



    Well played, sir.


    How did I miss this gem?

    Thank you, Joe, for bringing this one to my attention!

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    We are choosing to be here right now -Tool, Parabola

  • I enjoyed it very much. I particularly liked its dedication to concept that the unknown is more frightening than what you can know and see. I loved the veiled nature of the monster, how you only caught brief glimpses of it for much of the movie, and how it was never explained by some scientist character walking in and spilling the beans. I understand there's some wierd backstory put together from the viral marketing campaign, but not knowing it didn't really detract from the movie for me. The camera didn't bother me, I knew about it in advance and I can deal with the jerkiness. Actually I thought it added to the movie, and it was often used to clever effect to avoid seeing the monster too closely.



    One thing I want to touch on specifically is the spider-crab thingies. Here's my opinion on them:



    -The spider crabs are a parasite of the Cloverfield monster, not it's offspring (I think they are specifically mentioned as parasites in the script). The designers of the monsters cited looking at biological examples as inspiration, hence....



    -They are similar to mosquitos in that they inject a sort of blood-thinner through their bite, to assist in sucking the vital juices out of their target. This would assist them in feeding off of something like the Cloverfield monster.



    -An overdose of a blood-thinner would cause a human to bleed out of the eyes (even through the skin) as the girl did. I don't know if it's possible to administer such a high dose that it would cause someone's innards to burst, but I think that was the general idea, since a blood thinner essentially causes blood to thin and thus there to be a whole lot more of it spatially. We saw a soldier with a blown-out gut being wheeled by just before the girl died.



    -The Cloverfield monster is so massive that those things are like mosquitoes to it, but obviously the effect of their blood-thinner is amplified a thousand-fold on a much smaller human.



    -I don't think the spider-crabs injected any kind of eggs or anything through their bite. If we're going by a biological theme I don't know any animals that can even do that, most rely on ovipositores (sp?) to inject eggs into hosts. That includes stingers. I think the soldiers were so concerned with the bitten because they didn't yet know what they were dealing with, and/or they were trying to sedate or mercy-kill the girl before the inevitable.



    That's probably long and drawn out, but we had a fun chat over dinner after the movie on the spider-crabs :P

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361

    Well it was either a alien or what I heard, which is that the monster is some sort of animal mutation that happened near hiroshima, Japan due to the Atom Bombs radiation left behind.  Also the fact that the protagonist was planning on going to Japan maybe kind f a hint to the monsters origin as other monsters are usualy from Japan like Godzilla.  And the biggest hint is that Manga has agreed to do a anime pre-quel to the movie about a Japanese guy in Japan while being destroyed by the same monster from the movie.  I found that out at wikepedia.com.

    But still Godzilla will pwn this monster.

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