The answer is that Sigil stated SOE was publishing and not developing...because that was the truth. Smedley said that no listening to fans enough was a mistake...OOOOOO!...yes, it must be because he read Suvroc complaining on the mmorpg message board. Or, it could be because that's the kind of thing fans want to hear as you promote new games... As far as a "non-story"? Not sure that it qualifies as that, it was certainly a "landmark" in MMO development. I do think it qualifies as something that it's really time to get over your emotional attachment to, however.
it was a video game...two years ago...that you liked to play...now it's not...that's it.
If you perefer to remember the VG issue that way then that's up to you. I simply remember people quitting once SOE became involved in publishing. There was damage control on the VG front because of SOE's involvement.
And yes, I was one of those fans that Smedley was refering to. Not me alone, but as a collective of people.
And finally, you say it's a "landmark" but then you try to dismiss it as irelevent by telling people to get over it. A landmark by definition signifies an important place or moment. Why should we forget that just because it's 2 years ago?
I didn't say forget it...I said get over it. As in get past the emotional attachment to it. As in posting threads like this one, two years after the fact, like it happened yesterday is ridiculous.
You want to remember it, cool. I remember it, it's why I don't play SOE games. But having such an emotional stake in a video game you quit playing 2 years ago just can't be healthy...
Too big words for someone who helped by big part to raise postcount in a thread with subject "hate the ..NGE" and get max views to top of the roof. /thanks
and this would be exactly my point about this fantasy that you're making some big change or difference.
Dude, are you really under the impression that people at Sony give a rat's ass what the post count on an NGE hater thread on mmorpg.com is???
If so...you're dreaming.
well recently they send an community manager in for...
btw a popular community forming portal like MMORPG.com has is value , you may been right if it would be this only 1 negative thread but , i am sure it get "valued" by $OE , remember how they "valued" the word "PRE CU" in their own boards right after NGE-hit?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I didn't say forget it...I said get over it. As in get past the emotional attachment to it. As in posting threads like this one, two years after the fact, like it happened yesterday is ridiculous. You want to remember it, cool. I remember it, it's why I don't play SOE games. But having such an emotional stake in a video game you quit playing 2 years ago just can't be healthy...
Who said anything about being emotional about it? When I speak out against the NGE I'm looking at it from the perspective of consumer protection, and the dangers of something like what the NGE represents. I don't think I've been excessively emotional about it.
As for others being emotional, well thats up to them. I'm not going to get upset at someone because they've had emotional attachment to a game. Hell, that would just be emotional now wouldn't it?
I personally applaud people for being emotional about things like this because otherwise we'd just be complacent and apathetic.
Now that is a rational, reasonable statement Arc, and one I can support. I myself was an avid player, although I quit at the CU (or shortly after). I have all the sympathy for players who hated the NGE and CU, but I also think people forget that the majority of avid MMO players (SWG included) have received an INSANELY high "bang to buck" ratio, in the forum of 60-150 hours a month of entertainment for 15 bucks. To then turn around and accuse the same people who gave you that pleasure of criminal offenses is ludicrous. It's equally ridiculous to still be creating entirely new threads about something that happened 2 years ago...it's over...a long time ago...it's time to get over it.
The sense of entitlement running rampant in MMO forums is just off the charts out of control. When you buy the game box, know what it entitles you to? The game. When you pay the 15 bucks a month, know what it entitles you to? The ability to play on the game's servers, while they're up, in the state that the game is maintained in.
That's it. That's all. If you don't like the changes, you can vote with your dollar and unsubscribe, but you aren't owed and entitled anything else.
False. Someone should simply bomb SOE's office building.
All rage aside, they screwed up MY game. Worse yet, they screwed up a game that was fine. It didnt have anything wrong with it. FFS, when immature homo 12 year olds can play a game without ruining my experience, something must be right. The community was for the most part friendly, the grinding addictive, the atmosphere Star Wars, and the PvP tolerable (im a huge critic of anything but UO PvP).
They screwed up MY game, MY fun, and MY life. That may sound over-dramatic, but think about it. Are there other ways to enjoy your life? Sure. Did I have one of those ways taken from me for no good reason by morons? Yes.
Overall, I hope every last one of the people responsible for SWG going down the toilet burns in hell.
Anyways... What have you vets heard about the SWG emu? Anywhere close to a server being put up yet?
For you and everyone else who does not understand this, the reference to gameplay may change is because of the ESRB and NOTHING else. There is NO WAY to effectively give the product a rating. This is why the phrase is used. THE ESRB HAS RATED THE GAME FOR TEEN, BUT THE GAMEPLAY MAY CHANGE because of cussing, or nakedness, or even lewd gestures. It is NOT a catch all phrase about SOE's rights to change the game. This is covered by the click-through agreement, NOT THE ESRB WARNING.
If you want to sound intelligent, at least get the points you are trying to make from the right source, the EULA and NOT THE ESRB WARNING.
I didn't say forget it...I said get over it. As in get past the emotional attachment to it. As in posting threads like this one, two years after the fact, like it happened yesterday is ridiculous. You want to remember it, cool. I remember it, it's why I don't play SOE games. But having such an emotional stake in a video game you quit playing 2 years ago just can't be healthy...
If people want to be mad about this, then they can be. Who are you to say they are not correct for still being angry? Are you God?
There are plenty of ridiculous things to be attached to, like dogs that fit into purses. This may or may not fit in this category, but seriously, why judge folks? Seems like you are trying to cover for SOE, a shill if you will. Just let people be. If their points are valid and have not been addressed by the entity that did harm, then there will not be peace until it gets solved.
This is a lot like telling Palestinians that they are being stupid for not getting over the fact that they don't have a state 60 years after the fact. Why don't they just get over it already? Well, because they were promised something and they were there first. The issue has not been resolved. See how this works? No matter how much you ignore the problem, or even try to kill and isolate the population, the Palestinians still want their country.
Is a video game as serious as the real world? Hell no. This issue, however, will not go away because it has not been addressed. Adding stuff back into the game that should not have been tampered with is not resolving the issue. It only perpetuates it.
This is a lot like telling Palestinians that they are being stupid for not getting over the fact that they don't have a state 60 years after the fact.
LOL!!!!!!!!
Yes, the NGE is exactly like the Palestinian situation.
Years of war and bloodshed, children dying, suicide bombers, displaced populations...
Star Wars nerds who's game doesn't play the same as it used to...
You've nailed it all right.
On this have to give Vincenz right, choose analogies more carefully please.
i try to give you another thought. This fight over the NGE is a fight of this special MMO customer for his rights to be appreciated as such with his special needs and rights. Maybe the emancipation of the ecological movement over the last years is a better analogy and example.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Still too dense to get the point. That's our Vincenz.
Understanding and agreeing are two very different things.
And regardless of either, comparing the people who played a video game a couple years ago that are mad because it got changed...to the freaking Palestineans is ridiculous, and exactly why you won't be taken seriously by most people ever.
Linna: First of all, I have no idea why you'd link the Lanham Act (trademark law) to this discussion, but regardless. Here's where your argument becomes flawed without the judgement of a court which you'll never see in this case. Bait and Switch, by US and EU definitions means advertising a product for sale then delivering a product that "misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, or geographic origin of his or her or another person's goods, services, or commercial activities". I'm assuming that you, and others, are claiming that because of the NGE the "natures, characteristics, or qualities" of delivery didn't match what was advertised. Now, you could sit in a courtroom and attempt to explain that the NGE changed the game and how it was played, but in reality...they advertised a massively multiplayer role playing game set in the Star Wars universe...and delivered one. They advertised a subscription to play on the SWG servers, when they were available...and they delivered this. They advertised an expansion pack that would add certain things to the original game...and they delivered that. They changed mechanics of the game, absolutely, but they didn't change any of the above things in their most basic form. They also had disclaimers from day one that "Gameplay could Change". Now, could you possibly convince a judge or jury that because they changed the way you became a jedi in a video game, or changed what kind of imaginary character you could be, that they were then "cheating you"? Maybe, if you had a jury full of MMO gamers who knew what the hell you were talking about. The reality though, is that the majority of the population would simply say "um...yeah...you got a Star Wars Online Game...just like they promised". Again though, since no attorney ever believed the case to have enough merit to see the inside of a courtroom anywhere on earth, we'll never know...all we do know, is that no legal complaint has ever been brought, let alone litigated and won, regarding the NGE or ToOW, and without that...they aren't "guilty" of anything outside of the mind of people on a forum.
I don't think it's "the way you became a jedi" that people feel was misleading. I think it's the advertisement for features in the expansion (like the creature handler necklace) that people are referring to. People paid for certain features that were advertised to them. Immediately after payment, they found that the features would be unavailable for use, but that's not all. They learned the features were advertised by a company that "knew" the features were going to be removed. I'm pretty sure that's what all the fuss is about.
I've also learned by having this discussion in the past, that some folks really just don't want to acknowledge what's being said here.
Whether they outright admit it or not though, the ToOW refund suggests that at least someone at SOE knew that the expansion that was advertised and sold to customers was not the expansion they ended up playing. That, in a nutshell, was the issue.
Regarding legal action. I think it's important to recognize that the most concrete basis for litigation was addressed via the refund for the expansion. The refund rendered legal action moot. To say that this means nothing wrong was done, is really coming to a conclusion that isn't supported by the context of the situation.
You know I was thinking about the legality of the NGE in particular and was wondering something.
Considering intellectual property law covers derivative works and damage to items/products created as an intellectual property is considered "damage" by law regardless of the commercial viability of said item/product wouldn't the NGE actually be illegal pending a court decision to regard the EULA as a binding contract (EULAs almost always surpass what can be legally contracted and therefore fail to be upholdable)?
To put it in simpler terms if you spent thousands of hours building a custom boat by hand and someone comes by and sets it on fire.. regardless of the fact they might be the owner of the wood wouldn't it be illegal as while the wood itself may have been their property the item it had been crafted into wasn't?
Originally posted by Fraya9 You know I was thinking about the legality of the NGE in particular and was wondering something.
Considering intellectual property law covers derivative works and damage to items/products created as an intellectual property is considered "damage" by law regardless of the commercial viability of said item/product wouldn't the NGE actually be illegal pending a court decision to regard the EULA as a binding contract (EULAs almost always surpass what can be legally contracted and therefore fail to be upholdable)?
To put it in simpler terms if you spent thousands of hours building a custom boat by hand and someone comes by and sets it on fire.. regardless of the fact they might be the owner of the wood wouldn't it be illegal as while the wood itself may have been their property the item it had been crafted into wasn't?
Yep, it would also be considered Arson, something that can also get you in jail.
You know I was thinking about the legality of the NGE in particular and was wondering something.
Considering intellectual property law covers derivative works and damage to items/products created as an intellectual property is considered "damage" by law regardless of the commercial viability of said item/product wouldn't the NGE actually be illegal pending a court decision to regard the EULA as a binding contract (EULAs almost always surpass what can be legally contracted and therefore fail to be upholdable)?
To put it in simpler terms if you spent thousands of hours building a custom boat by hand and someone comes by and sets it on fire.. regardless of the fact they might be the owner of the wood wouldn't it be illegal as while the wood itself may have been their property the item it had been crafted into wasn't?
It's an interesting can of worms. Some kids got arrested last week for stealing virtual property in the Habo hotel. Contrary to Korea, the US and EU don't have any laws directly addressing theft of virtual property, as far as I know, but one of the arguments under which they were arrested, was that people had paid in real money for those items.
Crafted and looted items in pre-CU SWG were unique. SOE provided the tools to make them, but we invested the time, the work and the skill, and paid real money for the ability to do so. We also undeniably are the creators of 'our own stories' (as advertised, I think, on the original box). I think in the not-so-far future, it MIGHT be possible to take a company to court over changes like the CU and NGE for reason of changing that story and those items without consent.
Even if it never becomes illegal to make such sweeping changes in a game that has already been released, and has been advertised as something completely different than what it became, it's still unethical, and (as demonstrated) extremely bad business.
This is a lot like telling Palestinians that they are being stupid for not getting over the fact that they don't have a state 60 years after the fact.
LOL!!!!!!!!
Yes, the NGE is exactly like the Palestinian situation.
Years of war and bloodshed, children dying, suicide bombers, displaced populations...
Star Wars nerds who's game doesn't play the same as it used to...
You've nailed it all right.
Nice ad hominem attack there. Taking a piece of what was written, twisting it for your own purposes, then saying I am crazy? The original post stated that a video game is not like real world situations, yet you still go there. The point is that saying for people to get over something when you have no investment in the issue is what is truly crazy. If you quit and you are over it, why do you bother to post? Telling others to get over it is pointless, especially if they feel that there is still a wrong being perpetuated. It is their business as to when and if they get over it, not yours.
Nice ad hominem attack there. Taking a piece of what was written, twisting it for your own purposes, then saying I am crazy? The original post stated that a video game is not like real world situations, yet you still go there. The point is that saying for people to get over something when you have no investment in the issue is what is truly crazy. If you quit and you are over it, why do you bother to post? Telling others to get over it is pointless, especially if they feel that there is still a wrong being perpetuated. It is their business as to when and if they get over it, not yours.
Actually, just like all the NGE haters here feel it's their right to tell every single person who posts that they like something about the current changes that they're traitors or morons...I have a right to tell every obsessed over a video game from 2 years ago NGE hater that I think they have emotional issues.
Well, perhaps your opinion might be more welcomed in the current forum. That is where current gameplay is being discussed. This forum should have run its course many months ago, but folks like you keep telling players to get over what went wrong. This coupled with SOE's incessant attempts to distort the actual state of the game and painting ex-players as the cause of their troubles feeds the emotions, to this day. We would not be ex-players if they did not do what they did. We would all still be paying them $15 a month, happily playing. Instead, we are told we have emotional issues, and that its weird to still be mad. Well, if you continue to pick at a scab, then it bleeds and does not heal. Leave the damned scab alone, let it heal, and sooner or later all you are left with is a scar. Tell your corporate leash holders at SOE to stop calling vets out, and perhaps you might do better at healing that wound.
This coupled with SOE's incessant attempts to distort the actual state of the game and painting ex-players as the cause of their troubles feeds the emotions, to this day.
Judging by the posts in these forums, I'd have to say they may be on to something...
And regardless, the state of the game is what it is. They're trying new things, some people seem to be enjoying them quite a bit. I don't happen to be one, as I've had SWG uninstalled since the day after the CU...but more power to the people who happen to be playing a game they like, seems a much happier proposition than still crying over milk that spilled 2 years ago.
Actually, just like all the NGE haters here feel it's their right to tell every single person who posts that they like something about the current changes that they're traitors or morons...I have a right to tell every obsessed over a video game from 2 years ago NGE hater that I think they have emotional issues.
Right back at ya dude.
Obsessed with others "emotional issues" is an emotional issue itself.
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If you perefer to remember the VG issue that way then that's up to you. I simply remember people quitting once SOE became involved in publishing. There was damage control on the VG front because of SOE's involvement.
And yes, I was one of those fans that Smedley was refering to. Not me alone, but as a collective of people.
And finally, you say it's a "landmark" but then you try to dismiss it as irelevent by telling people to get over it. A landmark by definition signifies an important place or moment. Why should we forget that just because it's 2 years ago?
I didn't say forget it...I said get over it. As in get past the emotional attachment to it. As in posting threads like this one, two years after the fact, like it happened yesterday is ridiculous.
You want to remember it, cool. I remember it, it's why I don't play SOE games. But having such an emotional stake in a video game you quit playing 2 years ago just can't be healthy...
and this would be exactly my point about this fantasy that you're making some big change or difference.
Dude, are you really under the impression that people at Sony give a rat's ass what the post count on an NGE hater thread on mmorpg.com is???
If so...you're dreaming.
well recently they send an community manager in for...
btw a popular community forming portal like MMORPG.com has is value , you may been right if it would be this only 1 negative thread but , i am sure it get "valued" by $OE , remember how they "valued" the word "PRE CU" in their own boards right after NGE-hit?
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Who said anything about being emotional about it? When I speak out against the NGE I'm looking at it from the perspective of consumer protection, and the dangers of something like what the NGE represents. I don't think I've been excessively emotional about it.
As for others being emotional, well thats up to them. I'm not going to get upset at someone because they've had emotional attachment to a game. Hell, that would just be emotional now wouldn't it?
I personally applaud people for being emotional about things like this because otherwise we'd just be complacent and apathetic.
False. Someone should simply bomb SOE's office building.
All rage aside, they screwed up MY game. Worse yet, they screwed up a game that was fine. It didnt have anything wrong with it. FFS, when immature homo 12 year olds can play a game without ruining my experience, something must be right. The community was for the most part friendly, the grinding addictive, the atmosphere Star Wars, and the PvP tolerable (im a huge critic of anything but UO PvP).
They screwed up MY game, MY fun, and MY life. That may sound over-dramatic, but think about it. Are there other ways to enjoy your life? Sure. Did I have one of those ways taken from me for no good reason by morons? Yes.
Overall, I hope every last one of the people responsible for SWG going down the toilet burns in hell.
Anyways... What have you vets heard about the SWG emu? Anywhere close to a server being put up yet?
Please, $OE has done plenty to f' up this game. Do you really want Congress to come in and put their own brand of f'ing up on this game?
this may be the saddest thing I've ever heard.
this may be the saddest thing I've ever heard.
Sounds like you have an emotional attachment to me. ; )
this may be the saddest thing I've ever heard.
Sounds like you have an emotional attachment to me. ; )
Nah, just bored enough with the Holiday time off to take some time poking sad pandas with sticks.
Saying that SOE screwed up your life though, is...indeed...quite pitiful.
Vincenz,
For you and everyone else who does not understand this, the reference to gameplay may change is because of the ESRB and NOTHING else. There is NO WAY to effectively give the product a rating. This is why the phrase is used. THE ESRB HAS RATED THE GAME FOR TEEN, BUT THE GAMEPLAY MAY CHANGE because of cussing, or nakedness, or even lewd gestures. It is NOT a catch all phrase about SOE's rights to change the game. This is covered by the click-through agreement, NOT THE ESRB WARNING.
If you want to sound intelligent, at least get the points you are trying to make from the right source, the EULA and NOT THE ESRB WARNING.
Akevv Ostone
No Longer SWG Free
this may be the saddest thing I've ever heard.
Sounds like you have an emotional attachment to me. ; )
Nah, just bored enough with the Holiday time off to take some time poking sad pandas with sticks.
Saying that SOE screwed up your life though, is...indeed...quite pitiful.
You call that pitiful yet you're on your "holiday time", "poking sad pandas with sticks"?
I mean common, at least most of us are getting paid while we do this. : )
There are plenty of ridiculous things to be attached to, like dogs that fit into purses. This may or may not fit in this category, but seriously, why judge folks? Seems like you are trying to cover for SOE, a shill if you will. Just let people be. If their points are valid and have not been addressed by the entity that did harm, then there will not be peace until it gets solved.
This is a lot like telling Palestinians that they are being stupid for not getting over the fact that they don't have a state 60 years after the fact. Why don't they just get over it already? Well, because they were promised something and they were there first. The issue has not been resolved. See how this works? No matter how much you ignore the problem, or even try to kill and isolate the population, the Palestinians still want their country.
Is a video game as serious as the real world? Hell no. This issue, however, will not go away because it has not been addressed. Adding stuff back into the game that should not have been tampered with is not resolving the issue. It only perpetuates it.
Akevv Ostone
No Longer SWG Free
LOL!!!!!!!!
Yes, the NGE is exactly like the Palestinian situation.
Years of war and bloodshed, children dying, suicide bombers, displaced populations...
Star Wars nerds who's game doesn't play the same as it used to...
You've nailed it all right.
LOL!!!!!!!!
Yes, the NGE is exactly like the Palestinian situation.
Years of war and bloodshed, children dying, suicide bombers, displaced populations...
Star Wars nerds who's game doesn't play the same as it used to...
You've nailed it all right.
On this have to give Vincenz right, choose analogies more carefully please.
i try to give you another thought. This fight over the NGE is a fight of this special MMO customer for his rights to be appreciated as such with his special needs and rights. Maybe the emancipation of the ecological movement over the last years is a better analogy and example.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
LOL!!!!!!!!
Yes, the NGE is exactly like the Palestinian situation.
Years of war and bloodshed, children dying, suicide bombers, displaced populations...
Star Wars nerds who's game doesn't play the same as it used to...
You've nailed it all right.
Still too dense to get the point.
That's our Vincenz.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Understanding and agreeing are two very different things.
And regardless of either, comparing the people who played a video game a couple years ago that are mad because it got changed...to the freaking Palestineans is ridiculous, and exactly why you won't be taken seriously by most people ever.
I don't think it's "the way you became a jedi" that people feel was misleading. I think it's the advertisement for features in the expansion (like the creature handler necklace) that people are referring to. People paid for certain features that were advertised to them. Immediately after payment, they found that the features would be unavailable for use, but that's not all. They learned the features were advertised by a company that "knew" the features were going to be removed. I'm pretty sure that's what all the fuss is about.
I've also learned by having this discussion in the past, that some folks really just don't want to acknowledge what's being said here.
Whether they outright admit it or not though, the ToOW refund suggests that at least someone at SOE knew that the expansion that was advertised and sold to customers was not the expansion they ended up playing. That, in a nutshell, was the issue.
Regarding legal action. I think it's important to recognize that the most concrete basis for litigation was addressed via the refund for the expansion. The refund rendered legal action moot. To say that this means nothing wrong was done, is really coming to a conclusion that isn't supported by the context of the situation.
You know I was thinking about the legality of the NGE in particular and was wondering something.
Considering intellectual property law covers derivative works and damage to items/products created as an intellectual property is considered "damage" by law regardless of the commercial viability of said item/product wouldn't the NGE actually be illegal pending a court decision to regard the EULA as a binding contract (EULAs almost always surpass what can be legally contracted and therefore fail to be upholdable)?
To put it in simpler terms if you spent thousands of hours building a custom boat by hand and someone comes by and sets it on fire.. regardless of the fact they might be the owner of the wood wouldn't it be illegal as while the wood itself may have been their property the item it had been crafted into wasn't?
Yep, it would also be considered Arson, something that can also get you in jail.
Crafted and looted items in pre-CU SWG were unique. SOE provided the tools to make them, but we invested the time, the work and the skill, and paid real money for the ability to do so. We also undeniably are the creators of 'our own stories' (as advertised, I think, on the original box). I think in the not-so-far future, it MIGHT be possible to take a company to court over changes like the CU and NGE for reason of changing that story and those items without consent.
Even if it never becomes illegal to make such sweeping changes in a game that has already been released, and has been advertised as something completely different than what it became, it's still unethical, and (as demonstrated) extremely bad business.
Linna
LOL!!!!!!!!
Yes, the NGE is exactly like the Palestinian situation.
Years of war and bloodshed, children dying, suicide bombers, displaced populations...
Star Wars nerds who's game doesn't play the same as it used to...
You've nailed it all right.
Nice ad hominem attack there. Taking a piece of what was written, twisting it for your own purposes, then saying I am crazy? The original post stated that a video game is not like real world situations, yet you still go there. The point is that saying for people to get over something when you have no investment in the issue is what is truly crazy. If you quit and you are over it, why do you bother to post? Telling others to get over it is pointless, especially if they feel that there is still a wrong being perpetuated. It is their business as to when and if they get over it, not yours.
Akevv Ostone
No Longer SWG Free
Actually, just like all the NGE haters here feel it's their right to tell every single person who posts that they like something about the current changes that they're traitors or morons...I have a right to tell every obsessed over a video game from 2 years ago NGE hater that I think they have emotional issues.
Well, perhaps your opinion might be more welcomed in the current forum. That is where current gameplay is being discussed. This forum should have run its course many months ago, but folks like you keep telling players to get over what went wrong. This coupled with SOE's incessant attempts to distort the actual state of the game and painting ex-players as the cause of their troubles feeds the emotions, to this day. We would not be ex-players if they did not do what they did. We would all still be paying them $15 a month, happily playing. Instead, we are told we have emotional issues, and that its weird to still be mad. Well, if you continue to pick at a scab, then it bleeds and does not heal. Leave the damned scab alone, let it heal, and sooner or later all you are left with is a scar. Tell your corporate leash holders at SOE to stop calling vets out, and perhaps you might do better at healing that wound.
Akevv Ostone
No Longer SWG Free
Judging by the posts in these forums, I'd have to say they may be on to something...
And regardless, the state of the game is what it is. They're trying new things, some people seem to be enjoying them quite a bit. I don't happen to be one, as I've had SWG uninstalled since the day after the CU...but more power to the people who happen to be playing a game they like, seems a much happier proposition than still crying over milk that spilled 2 years ago.
Right back at ya dude.
Obsessed with others "emotional issues" is an emotional issue itself.