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What is it about MMO leaving posts that irritates people so much?
Lidane
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You know the posts I'm talking about. When someone has decided to cancel their account to a game, they will post on that game's forum saying goodbye to the devs and to the game, and will often say what their reasons are for leaving.
No matter how well written or reasoned, the inevitable response to these kinds of posts is always the same:
/yawn
"OMG nobody cares. STFU"
"Can I have your stuff?"
"You just can't handle a real game. Go back to WoW."
Insults, suggestions that someone's masculinity or maturity is lacking, and flames will also inevitably follow like clockwork. And all the while, people will insist that no one gives a shit that the first poster was leaving the game in the first place. Even the best, most well-written goodbye posts will get doused in gasoline and set on fire by some fans of that particular game, all while those same fans swear up and down that nobody cares if you leave.
But why? Why do people get their panties in a twist if someone posts that they're leaving a game? It has never made any sense to me.
Any ideas?
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My personal view is that they are pointless attention seeking posts.
I dont really careif your leaving because im still having fun with the game.
Also what are you meant to discuss in that thread or post?
Ballistic!
I find it's easier to not read posts and think they apply to me. The world is full of morons, and we all know Forums are the way they get their moronic messages out... so I try not to let it get to me.
If you're letting somebody who most likely has nothing in comon with you, and nothing better to do, then post on a Forum decide whether or not you're enjoying your game... you might want to find yourself first before coming back to the bane known as "Forums."
In conclusion:
Quit listening to the moronic dribble!
- CaesarsGhost
Lead Gameplay and Gameworld Designer for a yet unnamed MMO Title.
"When people tell me designing a game is easy, I try to get them to design a board game. Most people don't last 5 minutes, the rest rarely last more then a day. The final few realize it's neither fun nor easy."
it's because they're "/cry i had no friends waaaah" posts for the most part... I like the posts where the people are actually brave enough to say "this game is gay it sucks cya fags". Those are the best posts
*thinks back to the time when he accused the roleplaying community in World of Warcraft of being a load of idiots* Boy was I right about that one...
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Because the "SOE/CCP ruined my life" and "I wont play a game because SOE has a hand in it" threads are so frequent they are hard to keep up with. It's like trying to shovel sand with a tea spoon.
"I'm leaving!" posts are clearly pathetic attempts at gaining attention from someone who clearly isn't getting any.
They're by definition declarative statements, not meant to stimulate discussion or debate (which is what the "forum" conotates), meant simply to have the world stop a second and recognize something completely and utterly insignificant in regards to all the readers here (i.e. your leaving).
If you want attention, go cry to your mommy or get a girlfiriend/boyfriend/husband/wife, and leave the community alone. No one will feed your frail ego online.
Oy.
Mainly because its a vent post and a post based on negative comments. The fact that they take the time to drivel out why this and why that, its only one small person in a sea of subscribers. People come to talk about the game and the community not to hear someone whine and complain on why they are leaving, people don't give a rats ass that your leaving, if your not having fun just leave and leave quietly.
How would you like it if your watching a really bad ass movie in a theater that your really into and you like alot. You leave to get some popcorn and right outside the doors is someone reciting his reasons why this movie your watching sucks and he's leaving and that everyone who watches it is dumb.
What are the immediate thoughts that come to your mind as you pass this person? "Keep your thoughts to your self jerk-wad" "Stop whining and leave, you don't have to stand in the lobby telling everyone who comes near you why the movie sucks" "Cry some more n00b"
Your just trying to go to the concession and talk with some people in line how great the movie is, you don't want to be disturbed by some idiot yelling how the movie you enjoy sucks and he's leaving, but yet he's standing there, saying he's leaving, but not leaving.
Crappy analogy I know but thats how I envision a comparison to forum trolls who post I'm leaving posts. No one cares because as they say, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything it all. That and constructive criticism will be more welcomed than "Good bye this game sucks"
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Actually, I thought the analogy was pretty good.
I guess some people just feel compelled to drop a turd in the punchbowl...
How's THAT for a crappy analogy? lol.
They annoy me because there is no reason why I should have to know why someone else stopped playing the game. I don't understand why people feel other people must know they stopped playing the game.
That's why.
The hatred is simply fear disguised. Fear that the quiter just might be right.
Those posts shouldn't be bothered with. There are plenty of people complaining about the game and still playing it. If you weren't vocal enough or plain unable to get your problems fixed before quitting then why should the community at large care now? You're not a part of the community any more - so it makes sense to focus on people who have an interest in the game.
Im sorry but I have never understood why people think they need to go to the forums to make a bb post. No one cares about you or your toon just leave the game. Some people are just to dorky for me a I guess. I dont post in them at all but I will never understand why people make those post just leave the DAMN GAME!
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I think most people who leave simply believe they have something worth saying. Unfortunately very few people can communicate their thoughts in a way that doesn't sound like petty bitching.
I think most people who leave simply believe they have something worth saying. Unfortunately very few people can communicate their thoughts in a way that doesn't sound like petty bitching.
So what you're saying is that the people who post they are leaving are women?
Now I know they don't acutally interfere with the enjoyment of the game but its like this I've played many games and I come back to a few but you'll never hear me exclaim in anything that I'm leaving except to tell close friends on my buddylist of that game so they don't think I'm blowing them off. If you don't enjoy a game its cool but don't loudly proclaim your leaving and why the game sucks so bad if its so bad we'll find out ourselves and maybe just maybe what you think sucks I'll like. Thats why I personally hate the goodbye messages though I won't post responses just because if your looking for attention why would I give you attention.Thats just my 2nd cents on the matter on the original question.
Thing is, what if that person's post raises actual valid issues? Maybe a longstanding issue or bug drove them to leave, or something. Not all leaving posts are just mindless flames of the game. Some of the ones I've seen have been really well thought out and written.
Don't misunderstand me here. I've left quite a few MMO's over the years, but I've never left a goodbye post myself. I'm mostly playing the devil's advocate here. I guess I just don't see the harm in them. What good is a message forum for a game if the only kind of feedback that's allowed is what the hardcore fans want to hear? Criticism is healthy, so I've just never understood the issue.
That happened to me once, back when Pulp Fiction came out. I was on my second viewing of the film and went to grab a drink, only to find a couple leaving the theater loudly talking about what a steaming pile of crap the movie was, how it made absolutely no sense, that it was crude and tasteless, and that anyone who liked the film had no taste, and had the IQ of a gnat.
Personally, I just shrugged my shoulders and ignored them, got my drink, and went back to the movie. I didn't get bent out of shape over anything just because they had a different opinion on the movie than I did. That's just the way life is, you know?
I mean, I loathed Titanic with the fire of a thousand suns, and I made sure to let people know that quite forcefully as well, but at the same time, it made billions of dollars at the box office, so what the hell do I know? Clearly my opinion is only one of many, and it won't always be in the majority. Heh. It really doesn't bother me.
That's the thing, though. Even the constructive goodbye posts, with well thought out reasons for leaving, and criticism of the game that goes beyond "This game sucks balls. Kthxbye." still get flamed. It's almost as if any criticism of a game is frowned on, or thought of as bad.
I've often wondered this, because personally I couldn't care less if someone is quitting. In fact, I care so little that I don't normally read them unless I'm extremely bored. I would never waste my time responding. I think its odd how people in the post say "they don't care, go play something else", yet they cared enough to respond. It seems contradictory to me.
I don't think they're so bad. I think it depends on the reason for the person writing it; attention seeking?, or spelling out the reasons why enough was enough for the person? I think perhaps Mmorpg forums probably should have a leaving section so people can use them for venting their frustration or for seeking that last lot of attention.
QFT
Also QFT
Its fanboys crying that others dont like their game. If it wasn't for posts like those then devs wouldn't improve the game because they wouldn't know why people left in the first place.
Bah! My advice is don't let anyone, especially an anonymous poster to a forum, dictate how you should feel. I laugh at these Trollers.
Use the forum for advice and information. Anything else and I find myself drowning in despair.
Personally I find the "I'm leaving this game" posts very entertaining, well only the ones that are full of crazed rabid ranting and general abuse as he decides to call out the fanbois before he leaves. I might throw in a "can I have your stuff?" sort of as a half serious comment but not an insult. Usually the fanbois reply in their rabid defence of the greatest entertainment since naked female mud wrestling, this is when the thread becomes entertaining. The "I quit" and rant aren't usually that good very few have the ability to give a truly inspired yet still derogitory and base put down of the game its developers and fanbois, it gets good when the fanbois attack riding to the games defence like white knights. Now it only really gets into the top 20% of good "I'm leaving u sux kthxbye" posts when the op starts to reply and then it only gets into the top 10% when the op and fanbois have crossed paths on the forum many times before. Still then it only gets into the top 5% if the op and fanbois have crossed paths in game and both parties have an axe to grind.
So I always read the "I quit" posts in the hope it gets good before a mod locks it, I find the op often gets the real abuse from the insecure fanbois terrified that someone might even think about leaving. Let alone actually hitting the cancel button then posting about it! Sometimes the op is just plain abusive because he has very poor grammar skills in real life and just as poor an ability at socializing, as do those who reply with abuse. Though they all provide me with free entertainment so I say "it's all good baby, let's just sit back and enjoy the show!"
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis
^<fansede>lol. nice
i like "Enfant Provocate"
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The hatred is simply fear disguised. Fear that the quiter just might be right......""
^ i kind of agree with this. I think the poster was saying(maybe?): The fear resides within the flamer not the 'leaver/quitter'. Maybe because the flamer sees the quitter as another player adding to the lessening of population within the flamers game. Somehow this one person leaving will 'cause' the games desmise!
and the flamer will let them know.
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