...blast off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to truly be sure.
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Kickboxing you say? Stick him in a cage for some no holds barred and I'll be impressed when he holds on to his undefeated streak. I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I'd agree with you off the bat...except one thing.
"I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight."
Neither is cage fighting. It's just another measure of a particular style of fighting. Truth be told, a vast majority of the fights that take place in UFC and other cage fighting styles are great 1v1, but start a bar brawl and try to use control and sumbmission holds on someone with 4 of his friends looking at you and it's a whole other story.
Normally, I am against the majority of kicking in a street fight, but kickboxers strength allows them to place a nice thigh kick that can actually rupture the quads, which pretty much removes someone from the fight. Either way, I prefer not to fight people that are used to being hit, a lot, hard, by anything less than a car. Just a general rule of thumb :P
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I'd agree with you off the bat...except one thing. "I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight." Neither is cage fighting. It's just another measure of a particular style of fighting. Truth be told, a vast majority of the fights that take place in UFC and other cage fighting styles are great 1v1, but start a bar brawl and try to use control and sumbmission holds on someone with 4 of his friends looking at you and it's a whole other story. Normally, I am against the majority of kicking in a street fight, but kickboxers strength allows them to place a nice thigh kick that can actually rupture the quads, which pretty much removes someone from the fight. Either way, I prefer not to fight people that are used to being hit, a lot, hard, by anything less than a car. Just a general rule of thumb :P
MMA is not just another style of fighting, that's why it's called MIXED martial arts, because it incorporates all of the various art forms and lets them go against eachother. And I'm not talking about bar room brawls, I'm talking about one on one stuff, and when you're talking about 1on1, MMA, and things like UFC are as real as you're going to get while still being humane.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Kickboxing you say? Stick him in a cage for some no holds barred and I'll be impressed when he holds on to his undefeated streak. I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight.
A true test would be a no rules fight with street cloths on concrete, not in a cage. Certain styles have a great advantage in the cage... taking someone down on a mat is very different from dropping someone down onto cement etc.
Notice how in recent history they've removed the option to wear proper martial arts uniforms, because it leads to an advantage for certain styles?
On a side note D, how's that spot in the middle of your forehead doing?
Kickboxing you say? Stick him in a cage for some no holds barred and I'll be impressed when he holds on to his undefeated streak. I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight.
A true test would be a no rules fight with street cloths on concrete, not in a cage. Certain styles have a great advantage in the cage... taking someone down on a mat is very different from dropping someone down onto cement etc.
Notice how in recent history they've removed the option to wear proper martial arts uniforms, because it leads to an advantage for certain styles?
On a side note D, how's that spot in the middle of your forehead doing?
I have no idea what's up with the birth mark coment, as it's completely out of place and out of nowhere...but as for your comments on the fighting...of course a true test would be to just throw some people in there...but that owuldn't be very humane now would it?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
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I'd agree with you off the bat...except one thing. "I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight." Neither is cage fighting. It's just another measure of a particular style of fighting. Truth be told, a vast majority of the fights that take place in UFC and other cage fighting styles are great 1v1, but start a bar brawl and try to use control and sumbmission holds on someone with 4 of his friends looking at you and it's a whole other story. Normally, I am against the majority of kicking in a street fight, but kickboxers strength allows them to place a nice thigh kick that can actually rupture the quads, which pretty much removes someone from the fight. Either way, I prefer not to fight people that are used to being hit, a lot, hard, by anything less than a car. Just a general rule of thumb :P
MMA is not just another style of fighting, that's why it's called MIXED martial arts, because it incorporates all of the various art forms and lets them go against eachother. And I'm not talking about bar room brawls, I'm talking about one on one stuff, and when you're talking about 1on1, MMA, and things like UFC are as real as you're going to get while still being humane.
Again, I agree with you to an extent. I will explain the terms I use and their meaning to me (and many others in my 17+ years of Martial Arts training). Style of fighting generally refers to the environment and circumstances surrounding the fight. Form of fighting refers to the particular training entailed. Therefore, cage fighting is a style of fighting. The "forms" being used in those cage matches are a whole other story. Between my training and living in Las Vegas (where most of the MMA tournaments take place) I am well aware what MMA means. MMA, UFC, KotC, and the other cage fight events are a VENUE of fighting...not a form.
However, I still find you incorrect in saying "I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight." when in the next breath you state that cage fighting would be...when kickboxing is one of the numerous forms used in those very same MMA matches. My point in my original disagreement with you still stands in stating that you can't gauge the man's ability to "fight" because he is a kickboxer and not a cage fighter is a bit skewed.
I'd also like to state that UFC style fighting is a trendy Western thing and not the end-all for gauging fighters skills. In fact, I'd say that old-school Kumite fighters would make most of our western cage fighters look like schoolgirls pulling hair. There've been bloodsports in play LONG before western cage fighting caught on as a popular trend. I'd look to those older bloodsports as the ulitmate gauges as to getting as "real as you can get" while still being humane (to be fair, namely because we have so many health and safety laws in force even in the mighty UFC).
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Anybody in the French Foreign Legion is indeed badass. There is a 2 in 10 chance you will die if you join, and pretty much a 100% chance you will see combat. You have to join for a 5 year contract in which you cant back out of. Oddly enough the French Foreign Legion has the highest desertion rate. And they train in some South Western desert in Africa and some jungle. Somebody in the French Foriegn Legion knows how to fight and if you suggest they don't you don't know what your talking about.
Nope, he also has never met Bruce Lee, like Chuck did so his loss for badass champion.
You're probably just goofing, but if you're not, Bruce Lee wasn't that great, he was just someone with a lot of charisma... But no where near a great martial artist.
London prize ring rules, as for the cage fighting it's all well and good but I find that watching two guys rolling around and pushing eachothers faces agianst a metal cage for 20 minutes gets old. I'm certainly biased as I like boxing, the cage fighters seem to use a mixture of ju jitsu and kickboxing. In the old days it was interesting when a guy that did Judo would fight a guy that did kickboxing, but now everyone fights the same and it is a snooze fest (in my opinion). Rolling around for god knows how long and not being able to see any action isn't entertainment in my opinion, grappling suits these cage fights but it's not beautiful to watch. I want to see blood and a guy out on his feet being beaten to a bloody pulp, not two guys rolling about like teenage lovers in the sand trying to strangle eachother!
I fought in a few MMA tournaments and the rules were that you could only grapple on the floor for no longer than 10 seconds, then the ref broke it up. Also the conrtestants had different fighting styles like Taekwondo VS Muay Thai and so on, also it took place in a boxing ring. Grappling wasn't allowed as it was deemed as to boring for the crowd, people wanted to see the fight.
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Fairly sure there is a whole slew of military trained personel across the world that would kill this man before he even realised what had happened were they pitted one on one.
There is a difference though between trying to kill and trying to win so I suppose in the world of sports yes, he is pretty good.
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Fairly sure there is a whole slew of military trained personel across the world that would kill this man before he even realised what had happened were they pitted one on one. There is a difference though between trying to kill and trying to win so I suppose in the world of sports yes, he is pretty good.
Did you read his bio? FFL is military isn't it? I think he's pretty good at killing folks also.
He lost all credibility by adopting the name "Iceman".
That was one part that lost me a little bit. I keep getting images of Val Kilmer snapped his teeth at people when I hear that name...
"What is it I have against Microsoft, you ask? Well, you know how you feel when you wait for an MMO to come out and when it does you feel like you've paid to play it's beta test for another 6-9 months before anything even thinks of working the way it should? Being a network engineer you feel that way about anything Microsoft puts out."
Fairly sure there is a whole slew of military trained personel across the world that would kill this man before he even realised what had happened were they pitted one on one. There is a difference though between trying to kill and trying to win so I suppose in the world of sports yes, he is pretty good.
Did you read his bio? FFL is military isn't it? I think he's pretty good at killing folks also.
So yes since you decided not to read my post above. They are French military special forces.
Anybody in the French Foreign Legion is indeed badass. There is a 2 in 10 chance you will die if you join, and pretty much a 100% chance you will see combat. You have to join for a 5 year contract in which you cant back out of. Oddly enough the French Foreign Legion has the highest desertion rate. And they train in some South Western desert in Africa and some jungle and there trained and recruited to be expendable in combat. Somebody in the French Foriegn Legion knows how to fight and if you suggest they don't you don't know what your talking about.
He lost all credibility by adopting the name "Iceman".
That was one part that lost me a little bit. I keep getting images of Val Kilmer snapped his teeth at people when I hear that name...
I adopt the name "Hotman". Now, I am a bigger bad ass by default.
Can I be Captain Tepid and fall in somewhere between?
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Hot damn.. I think that man falls on the list of 'People who it would be suicidal to fight'. He is truely the definition of a badass.
...blast off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to truly be sure.
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Kickboxing you say? Stick him in a cage for some no holds barred and I'll be impressed when he holds on to his undefeated streak. I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I'd agree with you off the bat...except one thing.
"I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight."
Neither is cage fighting. It's just another measure of a particular style of fighting. Truth be told, a vast majority of the fights that take place in UFC and other cage fighting styles are great 1v1, but start a bar brawl and try to use control and sumbmission holds on someone with 4 of his friends looking at you and it's a whole other story.
Normally, I am against the majority of kicking in a street fight, but kickboxers strength allows them to place a nice thigh kick that can actually rupture the quads, which pretty much removes someone from the fight. Either way, I prefer not to fight people that are used to being hit, a lot, hard, by anything less than a car. Just a general rule of thumb :P
"What is it I have against Microsoft, you ask? Well, you know how you feel when you wait for an MMO to come out and when it does you feel like you've paid to play it's beta test for another 6-9 months before anything even thinks of working the way it should? Being a network engineer you feel that way about anything Microsoft puts out."
MMA is not just another style of fighting, that's why it's called MIXED martial arts, because it incorporates all of the various art forms and lets them go against eachother. And I'm not talking about bar room brawls, I'm talking about one on one stuff, and when you're talking about 1on1, MMA, and things like UFC are as real as you're going to get while still being humane.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
A true test would be a no rules fight with street cloths on concrete, not in a cage. Certain styles have a great advantage in the cage... taking someone down on a mat is very different from dropping someone down onto cement etc.
Notice how in recent history they've removed the option to wear proper martial arts uniforms, because it leads to an advantage for certain styles?
On a side note D, how's that spot in the middle of your forehead doing?
A true test would be a no rules fight with street cloths on concrete, not in a cage. Certain styles have a great advantage in the cage... taking someone down on a mat is very different from dropping someone down onto cement etc.
Notice how in recent history they've removed the option to wear proper martial arts uniforms, because it leads to an advantage for certain styles?
On a side note D, how's that spot in the middle of your forehead doing?
I have no idea what's up with the birth mark coment, as it's completely out of place and out of nowhere...but as for your comments on the fighting...of course a true test would be to just throw some people in there...but that owuldn't be very humane now would it?
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
But but but...has he fought Chuck Norris?
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
MMA is not just another style of fighting, that's why it's called MIXED martial arts, because it incorporates all of the various art forms and lets them go against eachother. And I'm not talking about bar room brawls, I'm talking about one on one stuff, and when you're talking about 1on1, MMA, and things like UFC are as real as you're going to get while still being humane.
Again, I agree with you to an extent. I will explain the terms I use and their meaning to me (and many others in my 17+ years of Martial Arts training). Style of fighting generally refers to the environment and circumstances surrounding the fight. Form of fighting refers to the particular training entailed. Therefore, cage fighting is a style of fighting. The "forms" being used in those cage matches are a whole other story. Between my training and living in Las Vegas (where most of the MMA tournaments take place) I am well aware what MMA means. MMA, UFC, KotC, and the other cage fight events are a VENUE of fighting...not a form.
However, I still find you incorrect in saying "I'm not saying he isn't a bad ass, but kickboxing is hardly a measure of how well someone could do in a fight." when in the next breath you state that cage fighting would be...when kickboxing is one of the numerous forms used in those very same MMA matches. My point in my original disagreement with you still stands in stating that you can't gauge the man's ability to "fight" because he is a kickboxer and not a cage fighter is a bit skewed.
I'd also like to state that UFC style fighting is a trendy Western thing and not the end-all for gauging fighters skills. In fact, I'd say that old-school Kumite fighters would make most of our western cage fighters look like schoolgirls pulling hair. There've been bloodsports in play LONG before western cage fighting caught on as a popular trend. I'd look to those older bloodsports as the ulitmate gauges as to getting as "real as you can get" while still being humane (to be fair, namely because we have so many health and safety laws in force even in the mighty UFC).
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Nope, he also has never met Bruce Lee, like Chuck did so his loss for badass champion.
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Anybody in the French Foreign Legion is indeed badass. There is a 2 in 10 chance you will die if you join, and pretty much a 100% chance you will see combat. You have to join for a 5 year contract in which you cant back out of. Oddly enough the French Foreign Legion has the highest desertion rate. And they train in some South Western desert in Africa and some jungle. Somebody in the French Foriegn Legion knows how to fight and if you suggest they don't you don't know what your talking about.
On Time? On Target? Never Quit?
Nope, he also has never met Bruce Lee, like Chuck did so his loss for badass champion.
You're probably just goofing, but if you're not, Bruce Lee wasn't that great, he was just someone with a lot of charisma... But no where near a great martial artist.
screw that bruce lee is pretty much the best martial artist of all time and if you dont think so then..............POW!!!! right in the kisser!!!!!!!
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Wonder if he still lives in Union, NJ.
That's quite literally, maybe 10 minutes from me.
He lost all credibility by adopting the name "Iceman".
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London prize ring rules, as for the cage fighting it's all well and good but I find that watching two guys rolling around and pushing eachothers faces agianst a metal cage for 20 minutes gets old. I'm certainly biased as I like boxing, the cage fighters seem to use a mixture of ju jitsu and kickboxing. In the old days it was interesting when a guy that did Judo would fight a guy that did kickboxing, but now everyone fights the same and it is a snooze fest (in my opinion). Rolling around for god knows how long and not being able to see any action isn't entertainment in my opinion, grappling suits these cage fights but it's not beautiful to watch. I want to see blood and a guy out on his feet being beaten to a bloody pulp, not two guys rolling about like teenage lovers in the sand trying to strangle eachother!
I fought in a few MMA tournaments and the rules were that you could only grapple on the floor for no longer than 10 seconds, then the ref broke it up. Also the conrtestants had different fighting styles like Taekwondo VS Muay Thai and so on, also it took place in a boxing ring. Grappling wasn't allowed as it was deemed as to boring for the crowd, people wanted to see the fight.
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Fairly sure there is a whole slew of military trained personel across the world that would kill this man before he even realised what had happened were they pitted one on one.
There is a difference though between trying to kill and trying to win so I suppose in the world of sports yes, he is pretty good.
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I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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Did you read his bio? FFL is military isn't it? I think he's pretty good at killing folks also.
That was one part that lost me a little bit. I keep getting images of Val Kilmer snapped his teeth at people when I hear that name...
"What is it I have against Microsoft, you ask? Well, you know how you feel when you wait for an MMO to come out and when it does you feel like you've paid to play it's beta test for another 6-9 months before anything even thinks of working the way it should? Being a network engineer you feel that way about anything Microsoft puts out."
Did you read his bio? FFL is military isn't it? I think he's pretty good at killing folks also.
So yes since you decided not to read my post above. They are French military special forces.
Anybody in the French Foreign Legion is indeed badass. There is a 2 in 10 chance you will die if you join, and pretty much a 100% chance you will see combat. You have to join for a 5 year contract in which you cant back out of. Oddly enough the French Foreign Legion has the highest desertion rate. And they train in some South Western desert in Africa and some jungle and there trained and recruited to be expendable in combat. Somebody in the French Foriegn Legion knows how to fight and if you suggest they don't you don't know what your talking about.
On Time? On Target? Never Quit?
That was one part that lost me a little bit. I keep getting images of Val Kilmer snapped his teeth at people when I hear that name...
I adopt the name "Hotman". Now, I am a bigger bad ass by default.
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That was one part that lost me a little bit. I keep getting images of Val Kilmer snapped his teeth at people when I hear that name...
I adopt the name "Hotman". Now, I am a bigger bad ass by default.
Can I be Captain Tepid and fall in somewhere between?
"What is it I have against Microsoft, you ask? Well, you know how you feel when you wait for an MMO to come out and when it does you feel like you've paid to play it's beta test for another 6-9 months before anything even thinks of working the way it should? Being a network engineer you feel that way about anything Microsoft puts out."
I thought he did some UFC fighting.
I know this guy from somewhere, and I could have swore it was from UFC.
Wish Darkfall would release.
He looks a little bit like Jeff "the snow man" Monson, if that's who you're thinking of.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Possible.He looks a little bit like Jeff "the snow man" Monson, if that's who you're thinking of.
I don't watch kickboxing often, and sure don't folow. Could be that's were I've seen him before.
Regardless, he's got a pretty interesting resume.
Wish Darkfall would release.