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  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729

    Originally posted by Agricola1


    And when you want to give up weed because you've turned into a fat lazy shit you can take up Heroin. Pure H injected does no damage to the body at all so is even better than weed or Tobacco!
    And when you want to give up H because you're a skinny zonked out social leper try taking up crack, you'll soon become far more social. True it has some side effects but that's no problem.
    And when you want to give up crack because you beat up your mother for $20 so you could buy a rock try cold turkey.
    I mean drugs they say they have bad side effects, but where's the evidence?
    What I did many years ago when my then wife was pregnant was to buy a set of weights, dumbells and barbells. When I felt like a smoke I worked out for an hour, I haven't had a cigarette in over 10 years now and am alot better for it. Replacing one drug with another is idiotic and weak.

    lol your one of those people who automatically assume cannabis leads on to other things..  People like you need to smoke a bowl and find out how its so different from other drugs.

    Fight fire with fire.. Thats why heroin addicts are treated with methadone, another powerful opiod.. Treat cig's with j's

    Tobacco has no medical or industrial use, and it claims over 440k lives per year in the USA.  Its more addictive than cocaine.

    Find a report of a death caused my marijuana and ill give you an e-cookie.

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  • JayBirdzJayBirdz Member Posts: 1,017

    You could always join the military. You can't use tabacco products during boot camp and to top it off you get in better shape than you probably are right now.   

     

    Altho my experiance was a bit different.  After leaving Basic training I started smoking again.  And nothing like being able to run 2 miles in 13 minutes. and smoke a pack+ a day.  Guess if i had of stopped smoking alltogether I would have been able to keep up with the 8 - 9 minute 2 milers.   But heh.. I was far from the slowest runner in any company I was assigned to and never failed a PT test.  

     

    Started smoking roughly around 13 regulary.  So its not far fetched for it being on these boards considering tabacco companys have and do target younger audiences.

  • endzoendzo Member Posts: 68

    i herd a guy died when he quit smoking but he was old

    my boss quit smoking for 6 months now and the stress that guy going thro dont know how he goes without lighting a fag

     

    will power is best for quiting

  • KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820

    Well, an update.

    Today, my girlfriend called me with great news. She has strep.

    I kind of scoffed. I was not angry or anything, but I was not looking forward to a sore throat for 3 days.

    Tonight, my throat started killing me. I was not sure when it really started, but it was blazing by 10:00. Right now, the last thing I want to a cigarette.

    But, I am also twitching. I have been chewing gum constantly. Every time the flavor remotely goes away, I switch it up with a new piece. I have a few cans of dip left and just a little pinch in looking so tempting right now. Mostly, because I know I won't be able to swallow [Which is hard right now because of the pain].


    A nicotine addict with a sore throat is really a scary thing. I am not kidding.

    "Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"

    "When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman

  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    Originally posted by Zerocool032


     
    Originally posted by Agricola1


    And when you want to give up weed because you've turned into a fat lazy shit you can take up Heroin. Pure H injected does no damage to the body at all so is even better than weed or Tobacco!
    And when you want to give up H because you're a skinny zonked out social leper try taking up crack, you'll soon become far more social. True it has some side effects but that's no problem.
    And when you want to give up crack because you beat up your mother for $20 so you could buy a rock try cold turkey.
    I mean drugs they say they have bad side effects, but where's the evidence?
    What I did many years ago when my then wife was pregnant was to buy a set of weights, dumbells and barbells. When I felt like a smoke I worked out for an hour, I haven't had a cigarette in over 10 years now and am alot better for it. Replacing one drug with another is idiotic and weak.

     

    lol your one of those people who automatically assume cannabis leads on to other things..  People like you need to smoke a bowl and find out how its so different from other drugs.

    Fight fire with fire.. Thats why heroin addicts are treated with methadone, another powerful opiod.. Treat cig's with j's

    Tobacco has no medical or industrial use, and it claims over 440k lives per year in the USA.  Its more addictive than cocaine.

    Find a report of a death caused my marijuana and ill give you an e-cookie.


    No I'm not "one of those people" I smoked weed many years ago and did many illegal including opiates. What I'm trying to say is that consuming any form of addictive drug knowingly is a pretty weak and idiotic thing to do. When you're a kid it seems different, and all those old people are just Nazis that don't understand. When you grow up you realize that smoking weed isn't really a good idea and it only causes problems. If I was to stereotype you as you did me I'd say you're a teenager early twenties max that thinks weed has little to no ill effects and you only use it to relax. Also weed has very beneficial medicinal effects that old crustys like me are too stupid or prejudice to except. Well here's some devestating news, most old crustys like me were stupid teenagers that believed all that at some point. We've been there done that and bought the T-shirt, when you hit 30 you might actually "get it" and realize you were pretty stupid to smoke weed in your youth. You maybe 40 years old, if you are that's pretty sad.

    Herion is the hardest drug to kick and has the lowest success rate for people who try to kick it. Methedone is pretty similar to substituting tobacco for weed. What's the point? You want to kick a habit not replace it, the best way is cold turkey.

    Tobacco has no medical use kills and is highly addictive, so better to kick it than replace it right?

    Weed causes plenty of deaths, dealers killing eachother for a spot and producers defending their harvest with guns, users getting into debt and turning to crime. Legalize it? That would solve alot of deaths but the goverment would have difficulty taxing it. Also weed will do long term brain damage to heavy users, I've seen it they have less cognative ability than Paris Hilton after a lobotomy.

    In short be a man and do away with the chemical crutch.

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • ACE777ACE777 Member UncommonPosts: 205

    Don't listen to the potheads.  Seriously people, what the hell?  And don't do the chew either.  I say continue with the gum.  I started chewing gum awhile ago, and it has totally become a habit.  For me it's a bad habit, but for you, chewing gum would be way healthier and cheaper than what you are doing now.

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  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050
    Originally posted by Agricola1


     
    Originally posted by Zerocool032


     
    Originally posted by Agricola1


    And when you want to give up weed because you've turned into a fat lazy shit you can take up Heroin. Pure H injected does no damage to the body at all so is even better than weed or Tobacco!
    And when you want to give up H because you're a skinny zonked out social leper try taking up crack, you'll soon become far more social. True it has some side effects but that's no problem.
    And when you want to give up crack because you beat up your mother for $20 so you could buy a rock try cold turkey.
    I mean drugs they say they have bad side effects, but where's the evidence?
    What I did many years ago when my then wife was pregnant was to buy a set of weights, dumbells and barbells. When I felt like a smoke I worked out for an hour, I haven't had a cigarette in over 10 years now and am alot better for it. Replacing one drug with another is idiotic and weak.

     

    lol your one of those people who automatically assume cannabis leads on to other things..  People like you need to smoke a bowl and find out how its so different from other drugs.

    Fight fire with fire.. Thats why heroin addicts are treated with methadone, another powerful opiod.. Treat cig's with j's

    Tobacco has no medical or industrial use, and it claims over 440k lives per year in the USA.  Its more addictive than cocaine.

    Find a report of a death caused my marijuana and ill give you an e-cookie.


    No I'm not "one of those people" I smoked weed many years ago and did many illegal including opiates. What I'm trying to say is that consuming any form of addictive drug knowingly is a pretty weak and idiotic thing to do. When you're a kid it seems different, and all those old people are just Nazis that don't understand. When you grow up you realize that smoking weed isn't really a good idea and it only causes problems. If I was to stereotype you as you did me I'd say you're a teenager early twenties max that thinks weed has little to no ill effects and you only use it to relax. Also weed has very beneficial medicinal effects that old crustys like me are too stupid or prejudice to except. Well here's some devestating news, most old crustys like me were stupid teenagers that believed all that at some point. We've been there done that and bought the T-shirt, when you hit 30 you might actually "get it" and realize you were pretty stupid to smoke weed in your youth. You maybe 40 years old, if you are that's pretty sad.

     

    Herion is the hardest drug to kick and has the lowest success rate for people who try to kick it. Methedone is pretty similar to substituting tobacco for weed. What's the point? You want to kick a habit not replace it, the best way is cold turkey.

    Tobacco has no medical use kills and is highly addictive, so better to kick it than replace it right?

    Weed causes plenty of deaths, dealers killing eachother for a spot and producers defending their harvest with guns, users getting into debt and turning to crime. Legalize it? That would solve alot of deaths but the goverment would have difficulty taxing it. Also weed will do long term brain damage to heavy users, I've seen it they have less cognative ability than Paris Hilton after a lobotomy.

    In short be a man and do away with the chemical crutch.

    You're entering into this argument with the assumption that noone has self-control. I fail to see how my smoking of a bowl after 11 hours at work hurts anyone. If you think that is detrimental to anyone's health, including mine, you need to recalibrate your brain. And yes, I'm 20, but I fail to see how anyone at any social level at any age would be hurting anyone by smoking a bit after a hard days' work.

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  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359
    Originally posted by Kiamde


    Well, an update.
    Today, my girlfriend called me with great news. She has strep.
    I kind of scoffed. I was not angry or anything, but I was not looking forward to a sore throat for 3 days.
    Tonight, my throat started killing me. I was not sure when it really started, but it was blazing by 10:00. Right now, the last thing I want to a cigarette.
    But, I am also twitching. I have been chewing gum constantly. Every time the flavor remotely goes away, I switch it up with a new piece. I have a few cans of dip left and just a little pinch in looking so tempting right now. Mostly, because I know I won't be able to swallow [Which is hard right now because of the pain].


    A nicotine addict with a sore throat is really a scary thing. I am not kidding.

    I have strep as well. Sucks.

  • KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820

    Pretty much. I did not get any sleep last night. I am getting anti-biotics today.

    "Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"

    "When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman

  • grimweepergrimweeper Member Posts: 2,047

     

    Originally posted by Agricola1


     
    Originally posted by Zerocool032


     
    Originally posted by Agricola1


    And when you want to give up weed because you've turned into a fat lazy shit you can take up Heroin. Pure H injected does no damage to the body at all so is even better than weed or Tobacco!
    And when you want to give up H because you're a skinny zonked out social leper try taking up crack, you'll soon become far more social. True it has some side effects but that's no problem.
    And when you want to give up crack because you beat up your mother for $20 so you could buy a rock try cold turkey.
    I mean drugs they say they have bad side effects, but where's the evidence?
    What I did many years ago when my then wife was pregnant was to buy a set of weights, dumbells and barbells. When I felt like a smoke I worked out for an hour, I haven't had a cigarette in over 10 years now and am alot better for it. Replacing one drug with another is idiotic and weak.

     

    lol your one of those people who automatically assume cannabis leads on to other things..  People like you need to smoke a bowl and find out how its so different from other drugs.

    Fight fire with fire.. Thats why heroin addicts are treated with methadone, another powerful opiod.. Treat cig's with j's

    Tobacco has no medical or industrial use, and it claims over 440k lives per year in the USA.  Its more addictive than cocaine.

    Find a report of a death caused my marijuana and ill give you an e-cookie.


    No I'm not "one of those people" I smoked weed many years ago and did many illegal including opiates. What I'm trying to say is that consuming any form of addictive drug knowingly is a pretty weak and idiotic thing to do. When you're a kid it seems different, and all those old people are just Nazis that don't understand. When you grow up you realize that smoking weed isn't really a good idea and it only causes problems. If I was to stereotype you as you did me I'd say you're a teenager early twenties max that thinks weed has little to no ill effects and you only use it to relax. Also weed has very beneficial medicinal effects that old crustys like me are too stupid or prejudice to except. Well here's some devestating news, most old crustys like me were stupid teenagers that believed all that at some point. We've been there done that and bought the T-shirt, when you hit 30 you might actually "get it" and realize you were pretty stupid to smoke weed in your youth. You maybe 40 years old, if you are that's pretty sad.

     

    Herion is the hardest drug to kick and has the lowest success rate for people who try to kick it. Methedone is pretty similar to substituting tobacco for weed. What's the point? You want to kick a habit not replace it, the best way is cold turkey.

    Tobacco has no medical use kills and is highly addictive, so better to kick it than replace it right?

    Weed causes plenty of deaths, dealers killing eachother for a spot and producers defending their harvest with guns, users getting into debt and turning to crime. Legalize it? That would solve alot of deaths but the goverment would have difficulty taxing it. Also weed will do long term brain damage to heavy users, I've seen it they have less cognative ability than Paris Hilton after a lobotomy.

    In short be a man and do away with the chemical crutch.

    I hate when people think of dealing as a "bad" thing that involves death and guns and all other stuff, maybe in some major cities but everyone who ive seen in person was chill as hell, you call them up and theyre like ok they come by you or you go by them thats it they dont even carry a weapon.  I think your getting the stronger drugs mixed up with weed.  I am still begging people to find one record of a marijuana overdose or death directly related to weed... Also cannabis is not physically addictive, you may get phsycologically addicted but then again people kill themselves because something that happened online in an mmorpg.  I dont know but i havent seen anyone mess their life up because of weed, maybe you guys are getting laced shit or something but me, dont see anyone with a messed up life because of it.  Cmon our first couple of presidents grew it, but we cant thats just not fair at all      

    I would also like to add im not a "pothead" that smokes everyday just on weekends as recreation when there is nothing better to do or when i get really pissed or just hanging out with friends and it comes up.

     

     

    sorry for hijacking    I would say do something physical like a sport or go to the gym maybe that will take your mind off of it for a while.  If you absolutely cant do it just take alittle dip, like a tiny tiny pinch just to make the craving go away, go another few days without smoking or dipping and when the craving becomes unbearable again just take alittle dip maybe less this time and hopefully yuo wont crave it anymore or it becomes bearable and you stop completely

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  • KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820

    Don't turn my attempt to get 14-year-olds to aid me in quitting smoking into a marijuana support group.


    THANKS.

    "Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"

    "When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman

  • AdrealAdreal Member Posts: 2,087

    Hey Kiamde! Welcome back... that is if you left in the first place. I haven't noticed you for a long time anyway. I've never picked up the habit so I really can't sympathize, but I've heard that it's pretty dang hard. This one girl's mother once punched a hole in the wall with her fist because she was so stressed about it; broke her hand too I think.

    But the key I think is not to try to make a conscious effort to quit. It might be a safe bet to quit slowly by replacing your habit with something or a number of other things just to get your mind off of it. If you make a conscious effort to try to stop lighting up and inhaling that sweet smoke and that live-nourishing nicotine, then that's all you're going to be thinking about while you're trying to quit. Don't think about quiting, but occupy your mind with other things - hobbies, girls, religious devotion, philosophy, etc. Maybe join a group that has something in common with you other than smoking and hang out with 'em. All I can say is... it's gonna be rough. But in the end you might just stop coughing up blood. And... that's a plus...

    Good to hear back from ya though.

     

     

     

    P.S. Find God! One of us... one of us... 

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  • AdrealAdreal Member Posts: 2,087

    Originally posted by Kiamde


    Pretty much. I did not get any sleep last night. I am getting anti-biotics today.
    Wow. Best of wishes to you...

     

     

     

    Don't you feel better already?! Can't you just feel the love??? O_o Seriously, go rent a few movies or something. Try to get as much rest as possible. Drink lots of hard liquor; works better than niquil & you won't want a cig in the morning either. ;) You'll probably be far too gone to even want to live with strep, a hangover, and trying to quit. ;)

    sleeeep....

     

     

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    OOGA BOOGA!!! Ok. I'm probably not helping any more...

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  • KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820

    My girlfriend is really supportive. I have never smoked a cigarette within 200 feet of her and I have have always felt a tad guilty about it. I found a new pack today in a suitcase and I gave it to a friend, so I am almost tobacco-less. I still have 2 ounces of premium rolling tobacco and probably 200 rolling papers that I don't have the heart to throw away, but I also DO have the heart to not roll one.

    Things are going pretty well so far. I guess this is the 4th day?

    "Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"

    "When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman

  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729

    Originally posted by Agricola1


     
    Originally posted by Zerocool032


     
    Originally posted by Agricola1


    And when you want to give up weed because you've turned into a fat lazy shit you can take up Heroin. Pure H injected does no damage to the body at all so is even better than weed or Tobacco!
    And when you want to give up H because you're a skinny zonked out social leper try taking up crack, you'll soon become far more social. True it has some side effects but that's no problem.
    And when you want to give up crack because you beat up your mother for $20 so you could buy a rock try cold turkey.
    I mean drugs they say they have bad side effects, but where's the evidence?
    What I did many years ago when my then wife was pregnant was to buy a set of weights, dumbells and barbells. When I felt like a smoke I worked out for an hour, I haven't had a cigarette in over 10 years now and am alot better for it. Replacing one drug with another is idiotic and weak.

     

    lol your one of those people who automatically assume cannabis leads on to other things..  People like you need to smoke a bowl and find out how its so different from other drugs.

    Fight fire with fire.. Thats why heroin addicts are treated with methadone, another powerful opiod.. Treat cig's with j's

    Tobacco has no medical or industrial use, and it claims over 440k lives per year in the USA.  Its more addictive than cocaine.

    Find a report of a death caused my marijuana and ill give you an e-cookie.


    No I'm not "one of those people" I smoked weed many years ago and did many illegal including opiates. What I'm trying to say is that consuming any form of addictive drug knowingly is a pretty weak and idiotic thing to do. When you're a kid it seems different, and all those old people are just Nazis that don't understand. When you grow up you realize that smoking weed isn't really a good idea and it only causes problems. If I was to stereotype you as you did me I'd say you're a teenager early twenties max that thinks weed has little to no ill effects and you only use it to relax. Also weed has very beneficial medicinal effects that old crustys like me are too stupid or prejudice to except. Well here's some devestating news, most old crustys like me were stupid teenagers that believed all that at some point. We've been there done that and bought the T-shirt, when you hit 30 you might actually "get it" and realize you were pretty stupid to smoke weed in your youth. You maybe 40 years old, if you are that's pretty sad.

     

    Herion is the hardest drug to kick and has the lowest success rate for people who try to kick it. Methedone is pretty similar to substituting tobacco for weed. What's the point? You want to kick a habit not replace it, the best way is cold turkey.

    Tobacco has no medical use kills and is highly addictive, so better to kick it than replace it right?

    Weed causes plenty of deaths, dealers killing eachother for a spot and producers defending their harvest with guns, users getting into debt and turning to crime. Legalize it? That would solve alot of deaths but the goverment would have difficulty taxing it. Also weed will do long term brain damage to heavy users, I've seen it they have less cognative ability than Paris Hilton after a lobotomy.

    In short be a man and do away with the chemical crutch.



    Dude im talking about replacing an addictive substance with a non-addictive substance...  'Nicotine' is addictive.  Cocaine is addictive.  Cannabis is habit forming.  Ive been a daily cannabis smoker for about a year, and I can go one or two weeks without it no problem.  Im sure somone who's addicted to nicotine cant do that.

    You say that "Weed'  Causes plenty of deaths.  Dealers killing each other?  Thats dealers killing people not weed buddy.   Another thing legalization would solve.

    Long term use is only shown to have slight effects.  Even then you would have to smoke excessive amounts (4-6 j's daily)

     

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  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359
    Originally posted by Kiamde


    Things are going pretty well so far. I guess this is the 4th day?

    Keep it up!

  • KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820

    So I have been rolling cigarettes for the past few days.


    Heavy drinking and large amounts of exercise have not really done the trick.

    Yes, I smoked the rolled cigarettes. But, my cravings have gone down almost completely and I am happy with one tobacco roll and day until I just plain give them up.

    I consider this past week pretty successful, actually.

    "Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"

    "When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman

  • AdrealAdreal Member Posts: 2,087

    Originally posted by Kiamde


    So I have been rolling cigarettes for the past few days.


    Heavy drinking and large amounts of exercise have not really done the trick.
    Yes, I smoked the rolled cigarettes. But, my cravings have gone down almost completely and I am happy with one tobacco roll and day until I just plain give them up.
    I consider this past week pretty successful, actually.
    Hey, man, that's cool. It's good to hear that you're making way. Keep up the good work.

    You over your strep?

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  • ntcrawlerntcrawler Member Posts: 329

    I would have to also suggest smoking a bowl once in a while but only if you have already smoked marijuana a couple times before now. I personally can't stand the taste or feeling in my throat that smoking a cigarette gives me but it doesn't help that I tried smoking pot way before ever smoking a cigarette and because of that I have trouble smoking a cigarette the right way.

    I'm actually quiting green for a month right now so I can get a job right a way when I move and so I can keep my tolerance down. The only time when I actually smoke tobacco is when I smoke a blunt.

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