Is anyone iffy about Guildwars? The graphics look sweet but with the no mountly fee will there be any updates? I heard that everything is free so no need to buy updates, also if you are in a fellow with someone with expantion then you can go to expantion areas. I will surely try this one
just a little iffy about the gameplay.....
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Updates are not free. As far as going to expansion areas with someone who has it, Im not sure but I doubt it. Why whould anyone buy it if you could just go with someone else? By the way, the updates ARE the expansions. This game SEEMS to be a FPS version of Diablo, I hope its not but thats what it was for the Demo.
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Sorry your wrong on that one, updates are automatic when you log on, you never know when there is one untill you see the new stuff.....you can go to the new expantion spots if someone has it but you cant pic up any items, expantions come out every 6-9mounths, the game is not a P2P, like every other mmorpg out there which make it good, insted of you kida like renting it with pay to play you buy the game, if you dont want to get cool items that your friends have then dont get expantions, I think this game will be great now, i heard that guilds can have guild halls or even their own town, and other guilds can raid the towns, Noice!
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You will not be able to goto the new places that were added from expansions with your friends who have the expansions if you don't have the expansion. You will still be able to meet in common areas such as the main city in the E3 for everyone event, but you will not be able to adventure to the new areas that were added. Expansions will also add new skills, abilities, items, professions, and has been rumored to possibly add new races as well. Also updates will be utilized mainly for patching bugs and fixing other glitches within the game, BUT will also be utilized for sponsored events, it wont be as if the quest map you goto will change each day.
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Thx DaShiz, I thought I was right. I remember reading that. In Horizons you can build your own guild halls, houses and towns and they are attacked by undead armies. Its pretty cool.
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This game looks like exactly what I have been waiting for. I know it is not a traditional MMORPG, but it seems to have good concepts. Not to mention the basis of the game is PvP, which I love.
And I don't think this is iffy. The Guild Wars team says they will update as frequently as they can.
::shrugs::
I'm getting it.
Waiting for Guild Wars XD
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Well yeah you knwo from what I here in GW the zones are instanced....
so wouldn't the zones usually look different and all....rather its monsters...loot...or area???
so I mean I just don't understanf the argument much here.....idk...i may just be ocnfused
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You seem confused, let me try to explain. Patching is seemless and free, they fix or change something and it automatically streams to your computer as you log on/enter an area. They will want to keep the game bug free and updated as much as possible so people will want to buy the expansion packs. Expansion packs are not free, you will pay for a lot of new and good content, I imagine once you've paid for the expansion pack (be it online or from a shop), the new areas will be unlocked and you will be able stream in the content when you visit the areas.
The 3 long years of playing mainly diablo and Warcraft only testing short time on real MMO's from friends places my 1 wish was that games of the MMORPG class didn't require credit cards thus my dreams of playing my fav type of genre were too far for me to reach.
Then came guild wars , my dream game as it has all the elements of a game i ever wanted to play and best of all its gonna be free , although im now old enough and have my own credit card its still nice that i don't have to use it since im not made of money or anything like that
Best of all if i do decide to pay to play then in the end im gonna have to 2 types of games i always wanted to play for the price of 1, a diablo type fully 3D MMO ( Guild Wars ) and a Warcraft MMO ( WoW ) although i gues my time will be dominated by GW but at least i only have to pay for 1 of the games so i have the option now of endless hours of gameplay to choose from.
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The reason why Areanet can "patch" is due to their advanced streaming technology. The game can accualy download the "patch" or the new file while you are playing without any form of interuption.
I agree that this game will excel beyond many of critics beliefs, but your reasons why it is a great game have downfalls that you need to understand and not judge them for face value. No level grinding is not a great thing, and level grinding wont be completely absent from this game. Haveing to "grind" through levels provides many things from time to form understanding of the games strategic styles to createing a path to consume the games content. There are many many many more reasons why it is there, but I will say that too much of anything is bad, and in most mmo's out today the "grind" is pushing the limits of unbearable.
Well in PvP you are always trying to kill the other guy and move on to find another guy to kill, otherwise what else would you do after you kill the first guy? Just messin with ya, I know what your trying to say, but you need to elaborate a little more before some of the critics come in and flame you! Instanced zones don't create 0 lag, but are a gigantic relief from haveing to render 80+ character models that are controled independently. I would write more, but gotta go.
Also, bballermc333, of course loot from the same monster won't be the same each time you kill it, most games don't have a exact set loot drop per monster, but are more of a set of different loot that will drop at random amounts or random types. this is in a sense makeing a set pattern, but appears to be random to most players and partly is. Your friend was probably playing the E3 for everyone event, and when you completed a quest area, you automaticly traveled to the next quest area that was different from the last, because you were progressing through an essential "story". This would make it appear that each time you started a mission the whole enviroment changed, because... it did! because you moved onto the next area. Probably different classes will have different starting areas, but no one can tell at this point.
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Can someone explian what they mean by level grinding. Because the way I understand it, level grinding is when you have to kill mob's to gain a level. I beleave Guild Ware does do this and that the only difference is that the time taken to level is significantly shorter. Also If I recal, there are not many spells to speak of and the combinations used are not very many.
Grafics is seemingly the biggest thing and the gameplay used. Well I can only see short term injoyment as after you have done all thows combinations, just like the cap in the every mmorpg game it comes down to what you can do after. The storyline does not really differ from many other as you simply have to clense the land of evil. Alpha's are complaining about the pvp and the fact it does have major faults in because the style of game play. I guess it's because it is still in the alpha stages so it is an excuse. So please tell me how they will fix this quick start thing as then it will have to relay on it's new originalty. I am assuming there will be new quests added monthly or weekly, or maybe new items, even a new attachment to the story line maybe. Diablo did it by adding 3 new classes which were a huge sucsess. But like alot of people said while playing it, it was simply repetative, point and click game where you came back to it every month or so after not playing. Hardcore gamers sold rare items on ebay for sport. Others were heavily into friend gameing a dueling. So I will assume this is what will happen until another perosn gives me more option on what I beleave or corrects the beleaf.
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Level grinding would be sitting in one spot, and killing the same mob(s) over, and over, and over, etc. Like in EQ, people would find a spawn that was easy to kill, but still gave good xp, then sit and kill those mobs until they stopped getting decent xp, then they would move to a higher version of the same camp, rinse, repeat.
While I look forward to the game after playing the E3 demo, I fear one thing. Kids. I've seen alot of people saying WoW will draw alot of kids because of Blizzards connection to b.net. Well, as WoW will probably run $15 a month like most of the current MMOs, and GW will be free, where do you think most of the speds, and savage little heathens are going to go?
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Basically the key difference is that in GW leveling is not a GRIND. You don't have to kill the same mobs over and over in the same place.
In GW you adventure, and as you adventure you gain levels.
Getting specifit items upgraded might be a different thing though.
But basically you play the game, you have fun, you level.
Level isn't your primary goal unlike other MMORPGS
For PVP only buffs, Levelling will be a priority, but of course, the cap is low, so everyone can catch up fast.
Item grind might be problem though
im not iffy what so ever bout guild Wars in fact I vant Wait im so Pissed off Cause I wanna play couldnt make it to Alpha in time Though
So I saved Up my money and I already Pre-ordered it im real hyped in fact im going to take a day off school and play all damn day when it does come out GW is most definetly gonna be the next big thing.
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Tiger>That is quiet resonable, so it will end up as a verion of diablo without the many skills but more quest based. How ever the basis of the first question was not answered. The level grind can still happen, unless all area's of the quest world in the game is instance area's where the mob's randomly spawn. So level grinding is still aplicable but does not mean as much from what I understand.
Also about the craft system, there is not much information I could gather fro the customer supourt or home page. Most of my information regarding this section comes from forums and alpha players statment so please alaberate. What is so good about the craft system and what does it intale. Other people in the board here have said that GW will have a large tech and that it will be better than wow. How do they know this and what do they know.
Also, how is the updates carried out, does anyone know, as the guy upsataires said, the game is free there for more kids will have easy access. Then again my main point is the updates that come with the game there after. Does anyone know the details. Will the upgrades be like the diablo2 expation pack with new classes and quests and so on. Also from what people have said here, it sounds like you have to pay constanlty anyway. Erlier another post said that you will have to pay to upgrade. or it may have been a assumtion or hypothisis.
Woosa, I am all carm, asked my questions with out swearing. Wooosa, no one made any bad coments on a game I like. Ahhhh I feel easy and laid back all of a suden.
P.s, please sugest how I should respond to people that stupidly say one game is better than another with no explaination and just start insulting a game they may have never played. Because I am at my wits end in the matter and have lost my temper many times about it.
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Mess with the best. DIE like the rest!!
Me kill you good...
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
J.d.slanger-everything apeares to be a scam in this world when you first see it does'nt it.
Your scathing wit and daring insight into the turbulent political crags of the internet are shining beacons of truth and purity for the slight remaining masses of visionless hypocriticial sheep who bleat at the thought of your glory
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I agree that this game will excel beyond many of critics beliefs, but your reasons why it is a great game have downfalls that you need to understand and not judge them for face value. No level grinding is not a great thing, and level grinding wont be completely absent from this game. Haveing to "grind" through levels provides many things from time to form understanding of the games strategic styles to createing a path to consume the games content. There are many many many more reasons why it is there, but I will say that too much of anything is bad, and in most mmo's out today the "grind" is pushing the limits of unbearable.
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Well DaShiz there really is no need for level grinding, as a matter of fact there really in no need to level at all, well there is but theres not a big difference between a level 50 and a level 30 character, the level 50 might have more skills, better armor, betterweapon, but thats just because of the amount of money he makes, if there is a level 50 that is very poor and has terrible armor/ weapon/ even a gimped out class mix they can easly be killed by a lvl 30, now im glad, i hated the fact in other games that a lvl 200 or 126 can bash a lvl 100-110, on top of that great fact, you get to challange 8 people you want, unless a tourny, so you wont have to fight people way beyond your level BE COOL< STAY IN SCHOOL >
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You should do some more research, there are about id say 20 spells per class, the games in alpha, so with 6 classes that would make 120 spells, and with the ability to combine 2 classes that means you get 40 spells, the quick tab bar olny holds like 9, and again this is only alpha, Do the math, guild wars is more of a game were you play against other players in 2 ways, 1 missions, 2 PvP, IMHO this game will be one of the best, but i hate to say it, the last 2 games i was looking foward to sucked, (CoH and SWG) im hoping this game will be great and by the way it was made it looks sweet, I just hope the time taking to get skills isnt as long as SWG. I havent heard much complaints in PvP other then its great and they hope to see Bigger areas that can hold 30v30 or 50vs50, with and expantion every 6mounths, setting out new classes, weapons, areas, armor, etc i dont see how anyone can get tired of the game........again do your reaserch, hey i mean i could care less about grinding, but once i heard from an alpha on how guilds can have towns or halls and other guilds could siege for it i knew this game was for me...
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I just looked back to the sheets i printed and i see not that its more like 25-30 per class, Also about all the people saying how bad its gonna be with all the kids, i see no problem, im 19, but my little brother is 14 and he plays mmorpgs and is repsected, no one can tell the difference, i realize that some kids can get annoying with the non stop questions and all, but if i were you id just tell them to fu*k off
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To answe some of your questions:
-----Tiger>That is quiet resonable, so it will end up as a verion of diablo without the many skills but more quest based.
Don't know how many skills diablo had, but GW will have about 400+ initially, of which you can choose 8 at any one time.
Quite quest based. Not sure how much compard to Diablo though.
-------- How ever the basis of the first question was not answered. The level grind can still happen, unless all area's of the quest world in the game is instance area's where the mob's randomly spawn.
Mob's don't randomly spawn in Guild Wars. At least not in the Alpha we all played. Level grind cannot happen, unless you intentionally level grind which I don't think anyone will choose to do over playing the fun quests and exploring the open areas.
-----------So level grinding is still aplicable but does not mean as much from what I understand.
No. There is no level grind - period. At least not from what I saw.
---------Also about the craft system, there is not much information I could gather fro the customer supourt or home page. Most of my information regarding this section comes from forums and alpha players statment so please alaberate. What is so good about the craft system and what does it intale.
There is a very limited crafting system. All crafting is done by NPC shops. You bring them parts and gold, and they upgarde your stuff. No need to waste time crafting. If you're looking for a game to grind away crafting items to get your craft skill up so you can grind some more, look elsewhere.
------------Other people in the board here have said that GW will have a large tech and that it will be better than wow. How do they know this and what do they know.
Not sure what you mean by tech. If you are referring to Skill Tree, then no, GW skill tree is very very simple.
Since Guild Wars is more skill based, it's not about how many thousands of hours you've poured into the game, but how well you play that will decide the outcome of a PVP battle. And keep in mind GW is fun to explore and play, but the focus is on PVP.
----------Also, how is the updates carried out, does anyone know, as the guy upsataires said, the game is free there for more kids will have easy access. Then again my main point is the updates that come with the game there after. Does anyone know the details. Will the upgrades be like the diablo2 expation pack with new classes and quests and so on. Also from what people have said here, it sounds like you have to pay constanlty anyway. Erlier another post said that you will have to pay to upgrade. or it may have been a assumtion or hypothisis.
You purchase the game in the store. Approx cost = same as most other games.
There are no monthly fees to play GW (unlike WOW).
Patches are free and the technology used to apply them is the best for any online game ever made to date.
Updates will be released after 4-6 months which will have lots of new content, areas, skills etc and willl cost money to buy (30-50 bucks).
Updates are completely optional, and you will still be able to play GW if you don't purchase the updates. And keep in mind there will only be a few updates a year anyways.
----------P.s, please sugest how I should respond to people that stupidly say one game is better than another with no explaination and just start insulting a game they may have never played. Because I am at my wits end in the matter and have lost my temper many times about it.
People are entitled to any opinion of a game they may choose to have. People are only saying what game they prefer. Some, as myself venture on to say which game could be more popular and why.