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Best PvP mmorpg out??

Is it limited to only shadowbane and lineage 2?

 

Im in shadowbane and a huge fan .. played lineage and hated it...

 

any other options?

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  • HebrewBombHebrewBomb Member UncommonPosts: 520

    CoH has PvP extension coming later.

    WoW PvP could be very fun but I hate the idea of consentual PvP.

    WoW should adapt Lineage 2 PvP style but modify a bit to suit those who can't cope with harsh punishment.

     

     

  • ROIKEROIKE Member Posts: 6
    ya... open pvp is the way to go.... i hate having to ask permission to rock somebody

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  • SelekSelek Member Posts: 236

    Neocron

    The communitys small but good. head over to their offical boards for more info. NC sucks pretty bad till you cap seeing as there are no low rank players. But once you cap (takes a week if you know what your doing) its nothing but pvp, and fighting over outposts and such.

    Find a good Clan and join them right away they will help you out with everything, money, weapons, groups, you name it. I don't care what others say about the game, but if you want PvP this is it. Check their boards for good info.

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  • erakerak Member Posts: 13
    runescape.On the runescape the pvp system very funimage

  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526
    No way would I ever play a game without consensual PvP. I want some punks like you guys to kill me and maybe steal my sword because you're having a bad day ? No thanks, PvP is dead or dying. I predict as the on-line community grows, you'll see less and less PvP so get used to it. CoH is doing fine without it. Its the first game where I didn't have uber 13 yr olds kill stealing and yelling obscenities at me. Must be they're not around since there's no PvP, ah nice....

  • MythosFaerunMythosFaerun Member Posts: 14

    first of all pvp games are games where pvp is integrated first and essential to the game so wow and EQ2 are not a pvp games

    nearly all pve games have some kind of pvp (duels an area where pvp is allowed or similar) but it isn t essential to do it... in most of them it is integrated very late in development to get those pvpers subscribe to the game image but because of the late integration its unbalanced and isn t fun at all in most cases

    imo daoc has really nice pvp but you really need a very good group (pvp specialised and high rr) to be succesfull

    sb has nice pvp too but hence I played daoc I wasn t long in this game but I heard from others that it is fun....

    donu about runescape -.-

    In the near future I only know about 3 real pvp games

    Dark&Light, Dragon Empires and Saga of Ryzome

    I don t know how much pvp content Guildwars will have but this could be another alternative especially for those who don t have that much time to play day by day

     

     

     

  • ROIKEROIKE Member Posts: 6

    [quote]No way would I ever play a game without consensual PvP[/quote]

     

    I cant imagine playing without PvP... I mean... you reach the level cap... THEN WHAT?  You sit around and talk?  If i wanted to chat i wouldnt pay 12.95.... Games that are pvp oriented give you something to do after you waste your life away hitting brainless mobs....

     

    PvP is dying???/ then why is nearly every big name game coming out have at least a small pvp system. see WoW darkfall etc.

     

    anyways... PvP makes it much fun.. but hey.. who am i to tell you how to spend ur 12.95... Thats just how i like to spend mine.

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  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,923



    Originally posted by ROIKE

    [quote]No way would I ever play a game without consensual PvP[/quote]
     
    I cant imagine playing without PvP... I mean... you reach the level cap... THEN WHAT?  You sit around and talk?  If i wanted to chat i wouldnt pay 12.95.... Games that are pvp oriented give you something to do after you waste your life away hitting brainless mobs....
     
    PvP is dying???/ then why is nearly every big name game coming out have at least a small pvp system. see WoW darkfall etc.
     
    anyways... PvP makes it much fun.. but hey.. who am i to tell you how to spend ur 12.95... Thats just how i like to spend mine.

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    All mmorpg have some sort of pvp because they try and reach for all kind of players from pve lovers to pvp lovers.

    Anyhow neocron pvp  is not bad and at least to me looks much more descent then SB.

  • LoD254LoD254 Member Posts: 373
    Well i really hope that they give us differant server options. Personally I'd either go with Hardcore PvP, or factional. I'd like to see a co-op pvp server where it 100% consentual for those people who don't like what i like. They don't need to ehar me whining about pvp, and i dont need to hear them.

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  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701



    Originally posted by admriker444
    No way would I ever play a game without consensual PvP. I want some punks like you guys to kill me and maybe steal my sword because you're having a bad day ? No thanks, PvP is dead or dying. I predict as the on-line community grows, you'll see less and less PvP so get used to it. CoH is doing fine without it. Its the first game where I didn't have uber 13 yr olds kill stealing and yelling obscenities at me. Must be they're not around since there's no PvP, ah nice....



    If you hate PvP so much I suggest you get off MMORPG's... The reason why people like playing together in huge areas is for the competition... Yeah Comp. in lvlin and crafting but also seeing who's the strongest.. PvP is just a bi-product of Real Life.. Humans Love to fight against each other ... not against bunnies and squirls.. So dude get over yourself..  I myself really hate to get PK'ed but hey I feel great when I kill my attacker.... I usually agree that the PKers are immature but in this case Dude... You're the one who's immature ... hiding behind a consensual PvP game... Shame..

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  • NorthwindNorthwind Member Posts: 9



    Originally posted by methane47



    Originally posted by admriker444
    No way would I ever play a game without consensual PvP. I want some punks like you guys to kill me and maybe steal my sword because you're having a bad day ? No thanks, PvP is dead or dying. I predict as the on-line community grows, you'll see less and less PvP so get used to it. CoH is doing fine without it. Its the first game where I didn't have uber 13 yr olds kill stealing and yelling obscenities at me. Must be they're not around since there's no PvP, ah nice....


    If you hate PvP so much I suggest you get off MMORPG's... The reason why people like playing together in huge areas is for the competition... Yeah Comp. in lvlin and crafting but also seeing who's the strongest.. PvP is just a bi-product of Real Life.. Humans Love to fight against each other ... not against bunnies and squirls.. So dude get over yourself..  I myself really hate to get PK'ed but hey I feel great when I kill my attacker.... I usually agree that the PKers are immature but in this case Dude... You're the one who's immature ... hiding behind a consensual PvP game... Shame..


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    You couldn't be more wrong.  While it may be the reason you play MMoRPG's, there are alot of players out their who play for reasons other then compitetion.  They play for the sense of community, they play for the stories, they play just have fun with friends regardless of the outcome. 

    You are right in the fact that RL is competition enough, most players play just to relax and escape the competition.   It's pretty narrow minded for anyone to flame somebody for liking a different style of online play then them.   Some players like Full PVP, some like consenual PvP, some like 100% PvE.  None of these styles are factually better then any other style.

    I personally find that if i'm going to play a MMoRPG that is focused on the PvP element, I would rather have full PvP sense it feels more immersive to me.  But I don't limit myself on just focusing on PvP games, there is just as much fun to be had in other types of MMoRPGs as well.

     

     

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  • numaticnumatic Member UncommonPosts: 665
    IMO Daoc was my favorite PvP style. The inability to communicate with your enemies subdued most flaming, and since it incorporated style of consentual PvP(meaning if your in the frontiers, your consenting to PvP) i thought it was great. But buffbots ruined that game for me.

  • UnKn0wNUnKn0wN Member Posts: 59
    I heard a while back WoW would have certain servers where it'd be Alliance vs Horde how the World and History of Warcraft really is based on, so if you see someone from the opposite side you can attack them. No consentual but open against the opposite side?

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  • zimquatszimquats Member Posts: 301

    Well I think the best PvP can be found at the VNboards, where one guy makes a thread and then a whole bunch of people try to flame him untill he cries.  The best part is that theres is never any lag, and the devs dont mess with it very often.

     

    Now other then Flame Wars, i like Planetside for the PVP as there are '0' monsters to kill and if you have a good PC it can actually be sorta fun for a while.  The best part is, its all PVP and even a level 1 can kill a level 20.

  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701

    Amen to that brother!!

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  • RazageRazage Member Posts: 53

    To Methane47: If you want to keep stats and see who you're better then with rankings and the whole bit, then maybe you should look for another genere besides MMORPG's. Counterstrike or Unreal Tournament might be more to your liking as these games have kill boards and trackers to show how well you're doing. And remember, if your numbers go up, your having more fun!

    Okay, the reason for that was to show that the argument works both ways. Infact very few playstyles can get along with one another so flaming the PvP thread serves little purpose. I'm just doing it here to show a point. Everyone here will pay their $X a month for their own reasons and usually the reason people leave is because they don't get what their looking for in the community with those reasons. Meaning that PvPer's might leave if they don't get respect for being "The best." RPers might leave because other folks choose to make fun of them. Crafters might leave because they don't want to undersell their weapons to the RPers who may be their only customer base. And other people might leave for their own reasons. As much as a company would like to please everyone, it's very hard to do. That's where you get some games that are more RP oriented, some are more crafter oriented, and some are strictly PvP oriented.

    Anyways, that's enough of that, just thought I'd make a point.

  • BootynakaBootynaka Member UncommonPosts: 66

    Daoc has great pvp/rvr action, SWG also has one of the best.

    Competition gaming is the best and pvp should be on all mmo

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  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,923
    If planetside was a mmorpg not a mmofps i would say its the best.

  • BootynakaBootynaka Member UncommonPosts: 66

    Yes I was a griefer in UO and a good one at that. But to me its not about being immature, its about keeping people at bay. I have never called down a person that i pked nor people that pked me. mmos players I think should have more sence and exitement, intead of having been in a group killing monster falling asleep in your keyboard ( yes i have done that many of times in both eq and daoc). But there should be a balance or option to people that dont wanna be killed, like in DAOC people can hunt pvp free inside their own realm, but there is also those people that lives on the edge and hunts in the frontiers because of its high risk and better rewards, I like that. I myself sometimes just dont wanna be killed but its fun knowing you are about to die.

    But now adays PvP is dying matter because of ridiculous amount of time to get to that lvl cap and when you get there people thats been there for a long time has the advantage already because they have the best equipment. PvP now is about who has the best sword, best weapon, its not about skill of a player anymore.

    Dont worry PVP players GW looks promising.

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  • LimzarothLimzaroth Member Posts: 10

    iI think the way Runescape runs PVP is pretty sweet. They have an area NORTH which is the Wilderness. and Any player in the Wilderness can attack other players. If ur not in the wilderness u cant be attacked. and there are levels. level 1 wildy. level 2 wildy, level 3 wildy etc. and if ur in level 1 then u can only attack people within 1 level of ur OWN. and the further out in the wilderness u are the stronger the people that attack u will be.,

    I think this is the way to go for PVP games. and runescape needs to brush up their graphics and sh!t then they WILL have a really gr8 MMORPG.

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  • nexus42nexus42 Member Posts: 288

    PvP really enhances roleplaying, but until Lineage 2 came out there was no accountability (at least since early UO). Most gamers prefer PvE, which is why you see all the mainstream games catering to that demographic.

    I think there will always be a small, but significant, group of gamers who thrive on the competition of PvP in a persistant world environment. But till PvP is done right (which Lineage 2 is making strides in), it's too prone to griefing, and hence lost revenue, than it is an asset.

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  • danatedanate Member Posts: 9

    I played DAoC, Shadowbane, Planetside, and now Lineage 2 (listed in no particular order). All these games were hyped up before their respective releases as being "PvP oriented" games. As opposed to say Everquest or Final Fantasy XI where they are Player versus Encounter (PvE). I really think everyone will like or dislike any game based on many factors and not just a couple you can name in a list. What makes people get attached or disgusted to any given game is rather complex.

    Examples for hating include: people that hate the quest system; they think leveling is too easy/hard; they think the "End Game" is boring; they dont like being griefed in PvP or PvP isnt fair in their condition; they love the thrill of large enounters but hate that the rest of the server loves them too and therefore they can not tackle said encounter at any time they want (i.e. limited encounter resources); their class got changed/altered or another class was changed and now its "unbalanced"

    Examples for liking include: people that love the dynamic events the game developers prodouce; people find their circle of friends online and are "addicted" in that they constantly think about what their friends are doing/talking about with them not online to see, so they are drawn in to keep up in the current events of said circle of friends; human beings have the desire for greatness and theis drrives people to be greedy and competitive, therefore wanting to play as much as possible to keep their equipment/skills/etc as update do as they can muster; people that just plain find enjoyment from helping outhers out, or planning "fun" events and contests for others to enjoy

    Some many think my post was off topic, but I was just trying to answer the original posters question (in a very general way): "Best PvP mmorpg out??" It's impossible for someone else to you what you will enjoy or decide is "the best." My suggestion is to read threads like this one where you can ask people for their honest opinions on games. Read game reviews (crappy as they may be, there are some quality ones) and compile all this information to make an informed decision.

    Or you can just be like myself and buy nearly every game that is released.

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  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701
    Aww man i just lost a huge post..

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  • methane47methane47 Member CommonPosts: 3,701

    ok this is the skinny of what I tried to post...

    I'm not a PvP lover, Neither a PvE lover.. I really like community... the Competition for me in MMORPGs is knowledge.. So i really like to help people with knowledge if I can.. and If I cant i will try to GET that knowledge....

    Earlier I wasn't tryin to flame the dude .. I was just tryin to say that I think PvP alone is not a good enough reason to call a game stupid..

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  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,407

    I play pvp games, even if most of them are crapfests. The thing I like best about them? Well aside from the flame wars that inevitably are born on the games forums, I enjoy the tools that run their mouth like their some sort of badass because they just killed some level 5 learning how to play the game with their level 100 character with all the best gear. Now, of course, they scream like little girls if you happen to kill them, because you used every exploit in the book to beat them, of course.

    Until you take up playing pvp in real life, where pking has consequences, and permadeath is very much in, you have nothing to be spouting off about.

    It would be fun, however, watching someone of the mouthbreathers I've encountered in various games try to grief someone in the real world. Why, I can almost smell the urine pooling at their feet now.

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