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Global Warming - New Study
Dis_Ordur
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/01/23/climate.report.ap/index.html
This is the largest study ever done on this subject. This is pretty conclusively stating that GW exists. I believe it too.
However, is it necesarrily a bad thing? Hear me out...
I live in Minnesota, THE coldest state in the USA. This winter has been the mildest winter yet. In fact, roses and petunias started to re-bloom in October, this is crazy shit! Anyways, we are just loving the mild winter.
If you look at the globe, you will see that roughly 1/4 of the Earth is under ice. This is a conservative figure as well. If GW does indeed happen, wouldn't this make more land on Earth feasible for settlement? Over 50% of Canada isn't at all developed or settled upon due to the Arctic-like conditions found in such places as the Northwestern Territory. So if the hotter places get hotter, while the colder places become more liveable, it would appear that there is an UPSIDE to global warming.
It sounds crazy, but coming from someone who experiences mild cases of frostbite from walking my dog 1.5 miles in the dead of winter, I can't say I am against a little warmer weather. There are other geological consequences for GW as well, but it is possible that the inhabitability of lands that perviously weren't will at least put a positive spin on this?
Also, if volcanic activity spews out 50 years worth of pollution at a crack (which they do), is there any way to 'get ahead' of the pollution curve? My brother is in China right now, he said the smog is soooooo bad, he said it always looks like it is going to rain, but never does. So pollution control is very necesarry, I just wonder what good it does when volcanoes, underground geysers and underwater eruptions nullify any environmentally protective measures we have taken.
I don't really take sides with either argument here, and I think scientists are taking wild stabs at this, since nobody truly understands the Earth's climate or the physics of our atmosphere. Any thoughts?
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Hey Dis havnt seen you for a while
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Nice read... Im still not convinced LOL
Fortunately like I said in another thread... all the things we can do to make ourselves feel better dont hurt, so whether the problem exists or not, whether we are contributing to it or not, the solutions are all good.
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Does this new study
A.) have official climate records that go back further than 100-200 years?
b.) give evidence to show warming isn't naturally occuring?
Dont go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. (Mark Twain)
well...global warming is kinda proven,but who the hezzle cares. It will happen without us and won't completely wipe out life. The plants will survive and replenish everything.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
The reasons its bad is because its killing animals for example: When ice melts it fresh water, when salt water fish go into fresh water they die. Many poorer countries in Asia and other places depend on fish to bring food. Without Saltwater fish many countries would go into famen and a lot of people would die.Global warming has two negative effects, as compared to current world weather conditions
A.) survivability in regions near the equator drops significantly as crops have a much harder time growing
B.) Flooding will inevitably occur as more water is released from the polar icecaps, possibly causing major problems along our coasts, as places that were once above the tide come fully under water.
So in short, global warming is good for the more northern and southern regions not directly on the coast in terms of habitability, bad everywhere else.
The reasons its bad is because its killing animals for example: When ice melts it fresh water, when salt water fish go into fresh water they die. Many poorer countries in Asia and other places depend on fish to bring food. Without Saltwater fish many countries would go into famen and a lot of people would die.Sorry bub, but even if every scrap of water in the icecaps was released into the ocean, it still wouldn't lower the salinity enough to kill off more than a few of the weaker species.(Of course, by the time the globe is warm enough to do that, we have other problems to worry about)
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
Yes, I for one am not concerned at all for "Mother Earth". She's fine, and Earth's ecology will continue, even if we nuke the crust into a radioactive shell.
The question is, will humanity, both our species and our civilization, be here too?
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
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People have to die. There are too many of us and the species has to be thinned out and it will be because nature fixes it self.
Save earth, kill a man
I do believe global warming exists, but I don't think we (humans, etc.) are causing much of it. I think it is a naturally occuring phenomenon. If you look at the history of temps for the earth you'll see that the earth is constantly in a state of cooling and heating. This is over thousands of years, but does happen.
Check out this site from Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years
You'll see from the graph that the earth has in fact changed temperture on its own. Cars have only been around for a century or so, coal power stations, maybe a century and a half? What caused the earth to rise and fall in temperture without these?
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Reminds me of Rainbow Six. In there, the basic plot is that a whole bunch of wacko nature-lovers decide they need to kill off Humanity with a modified Ebola Virus, so nature can survive.
Dumbest idea ever. If you think that the only way to help the planet is complete extermination of the Human Race, you can start with yourself. Just think, one less CO2 producer on the planet. One less person filling the air with toxins.
We barely remember who or what came before this precious moment;
We are choosing to be here right now -Tool, Parabola
honestly though-what the big deal over it. We will die out one way or another and so will everything else. It's not very important is it?
P.S.we are intellegent. I meant a race as intellegent as us is bound to come up if life returns after it
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
Yea your little eutopianic vision left out the fact that a majour portion of the landmasses in the world would be below sea level if the ice caps melted Including new york. Also loads of species will die out such as polar bears. All that fresh water from the ice that got dumped into the seas will cause majour problems with the seas currents which will alter the way things work. Also of course a lot of people will starve as a large portion of the crop growing land will be underwater.