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Why we raid?
Barge
Member Posts: 65
Me and several of my guildmates were talking about MMOs in general (most of us have been playing together since EQ), and we stumbled upon an unusal topic, Why do we raid? We all cae up with about a million reasons and I was just curious as to what all of yours were? Also if you do not raid i am curious why you choose not not.
(To clarify I am not trying to make a "raid or die", or and anti-raid post, I am just cruious
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I don't raid, not that I have anything against it. I have done them in the past and probably will in the future but that is not the norm for me. The reasons are simple:
1. Not enough time. I'm usually only one for an hour or two, actually lately not at all but thats just because I'm waiting for a decent game.
2. When I do play it is usually to relax and unwind from the day, so I don't want to dissapoint/piss off someone else who is relying on me when I know I'm just playing around so I won't pull my weight in a group/raid.
Venge Sunsoar
Could you please share just a few of the 'million reasons' that you and your guild came up with? (Nothing else to play and I would like to reactivate)...
of other players raid to get the loots. I for one don't care when I get
what in a game, I just love to see new stuff.
But now I don't raid because Raiding ruins relationships and I enjoy sex more than WoW.
It used to be 8hrs a night 6 days a week.. Now I don't raid
or play an mmorpg currently. I Miss wow a lot from time to time
like any alcoholic misses the drink from time to time. But
you gotta do whats right.
Perhaps running/strategizing the entire raid might interesting but I have managed people in real life (professionally) and I have no desire to do that as part of a game I do for fun. So just dealing with the raid as an individual is quite, well, simplistic and repetitive since you are just a cog in the machinery.
I also think the large scale makes the inherrent stupidity of tank and spank EQ-style aggro mechancis so blatantly obvious that it destroys my suspension of disbelief.
I use to do raids in EQ I when I was newer to gaming.
However I quickly became tired of the drama, raid leaders who were worse tyrants than Adolf Hitler, being fussed at because I could not raid at 3:00 am in the morning, and spending hours waiting for enough people to show up.
I play to have fun. I am happy for those that find raiding fun, but I dont.
Support Bacteria, its the only culture some people have.
When I raided, before I knew how pointless it was, it had purpose: Get better gear to become even more feared in PvP. Maybe even make some solid friendships. I can easily say I spent atleast over a hundred hours raiding, and was three pieces away from the best a Rogue can get. What happened you ask?
People suck.
Three of my last raids all fell to pieces over people and their foolish desires. The first came from a drop on a boss that just about everyone wanted. The roll went through, and a few people became a little upset
. Raid was over. The second and third are good reasons not to piss people off. Vent is one of the greatest things EVER, but please don't act like your on the radio and feel everyone just has to listen to your wisdom. This is true when you start a discussion about very hot topics that everyone will not be okay with 
. It's very hard to fight when over half the raid is busy yelling at their screens.
I felt the need to stop raiding after that point, focusing on PvP. I have to say the greatest fun I ever had came from mass attacking Alliance towns. Extremely cool to see that many places under attack at once
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server, to pvp well and pretend those well earned items actualy make
you better than the tier 0 noob who gets destroyed by you within
seconds.
doing the same thing over and over again is lame.
I have quited wow for the reason that the game is lame and repeating.
Starwars Galaxies, An Empier Diveded, That's what it says on my box anyway.
server, to pvp well"
This is 100% true.
People raid because if they don't they suck - compared to those that do. If raiding gave loot equal to what a soloer could get from a easy quest much fewer people would "waste" their time raiding and would simply get the item the easy way and move on.
There are a few reasons why people would raid in WoW or any other game.
To say they killed the Uber_Mob_01 first, that they been to places most others only see in videos and/or to get gear that gives them an advantage over other non-raiders. Plus if you raid <zonename> then that earns you some "status", such as "guild looking for BWL equipped players". They don't want just any player only ones that have been to a certain raid zone before.
To me, whether it was WoW or whatever, raiding is a nice change of pace from the usual. It is not something that I enjoyed doing 5+ nights a week however. Doing the same raid zone over and over night after night gets mind-numbing boring very quickly. Even going back to ol' days of EQ1 I still preferred to raid only once or twice a week. I found I enjoy a game better when raiding does not cosume my playtime.
I dont like it.....
Raiding to me takes the fun out of the game. Usually the best gear resides in raid dungeons so if you want to keep up with everyone else you have to do it. It wouldnt be so bad if the spawns were random and the instance changed each time you entered but the way it is I find it painfully redundant.
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
there are basically 3 reasons i can think of for raiding.
1) challenge. the mobs and bosses you get in raids are the hardest things you will ever meet in the game, beating them require coordination and skillwork. It also make you see a lot of content that you would not see otherwise.
2) loot. the best items drop from such monsters and as such, if you want those, for whatever reason, you need to raid.
3). social. this might actually be the biggest factor. once you join a raid community, you are exactly that, part of a community and as in all communities, there are rules to follow and people to befriend with. Also like in all communities, unless some bad things happen, it is pretty hard to just go and quit. Soon you do it cause you have friends there more than because you need the items or you like doing it.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
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Lend a hand and break the chains of regularity you lean so closely upon
Now I just dont see a reason, and am hanging out with 5 of my RL friends and just rolling some Alliance.