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wyzwun
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Graphics: 9
The original review complains about water effects I think thats really funny. If anything, we know its about art style, and ffxi achieves a very realistic art style. Everything in FFXI looks natural, when casters cast there cloaks move. When a melee swings hes blow ACTUALLY connects in to the mob (this is rare). Spell graphics are amazing looking, only knock against the graphics is they tend to re-use to many models but those models look really nice. EQ2 for all its customization, the game looks like $hit. Give me something that looks nice and idc if there are only 4 head types. Oh yeah, and WoW ... painted on body armor... WTF is that? I mean i understood that say EQOA for the ps2 HAD to do this but WTF, youll NEVER see any crap like that from SE, everything is OFF the body... Wow (no not that POS game)
Sound / Music: 7
A very average score by SE standards, imo square took a very safe route when making the score.
Role Playing: 8
IMO story line plays a huge role in trying to determine how much Rping one will do. The original reviewer just completely missed the mark. What young DRK doesnt pretend hes Zeid (etc) this games story line IS THE BEST STORY I HAVE EVER SEEN IN AN MMORPG. I have to put this in caps because the n00bs who mod this forum and the n00bs who post on this forum do not grasp this concept. SO imo, FFXI has the MOST rp potential BECAUSE there is a huge story. I dont have to make it up; its already there. The original review did not take this into account for hes score, how on earth can you ignore this.
Community: 10
I dont want give out 10s but if I am comparing it to WoW, EQ2, EvE its a damn 10. The link shell system is another great concept. Being able to choose multiple guilds based on the kinds of activity you wish to participate in none of the big boys offer this.
Performance Lag: 10
Get this; you can play this game for a whole week. There is no patch day where you cant play. I never understood this bs that games like WoW pull.
Customer Service: 6
The game is solid; SE has been trying to get rid of RMT. The c/s imo is decent. GMs show up now to grounds, SE is no longer asleep at the wheel. People who complain about c/s are generally stupid users. The game is rock solid, what do you need a gm for this very second? Give me a break.
Fun: 9
Fun is what you make of it. If your impatient and you want everything handed to you, you will not have fun.
Value: 10
W/o question the PVE content in this game is king. So much to do. End game encounters are very interesting and time consuming. Once again, this is how it is suppose to be, its a damn RPG, if you want a fix play a different kind of game. FFXI is a huge world but most important its a world that everything in it actually belongs in it. They didnt just add space and then try to fill it, they built the world from the inside out and that my friend is huge. Everything you do in FFXI matters. This is what is missing from new mmorpgs, consequences of ones action. This is also why the community gets a 10. If youre an RMT / douche guess what, you get shut out. If your that type of person in WoW? Who cares, everyone else is.
You want the time you spend in an mmorpg to actually mean something, and then come to ffxi.
So my actually final score, on a 1/10 is an 8. imo 8 is the highest any mmorpg can score right now. There is no game that deserves anything higher then that. FFXI is hands down the best PVE experience on the market.
Rites of the Four Horsemen
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work into this and It's very informative. I just wanted to add a
bit of input to this aswell.
I've been an on again off again FFXI player since pre-us-launch.
I love the game environments and music and graphics. My #1 gripe
about this game has been and always will be the lack of other players
desire to explore the world. There are so many beautiful places
in the game and I always wanted to go to new areas in a party to kill
stuf. But nobody is willing!! They all stay at the same
couple places to level up.
Also It can be a bitch to find a party in FFXI, especially now that the
game has been around for so long. The ability to solo in this
game is virtually non-exsistant. For me, if I can't find a party,
let me go solo somewhere.... But I die and loose and entire days worth
of leveling up work.
Here is your issue. Your not PT leader. If you wana go to that different spot, take the gold dot. I really get tired of hearing people complain about not doing something different when they are always being LEAD. Trust me, people are sheep, if you actually take the LEAD theyll listen and do what you want.
This whole concept fails to me, because treasures has not been out long, everyone has explored treasures and has found new xp spots.
The Party aspects is what makes this game special. It is what defines it and it is what makes this game "grind" really not a grind. It is about team work and really understanding your role in a pt. Being forced to group and xp is what makes you a good player. its what helps you learn how to attack certain kinds of encounters.
When you finally reach the top, and you do stuff like Divine Might, you finally understand what it was all for.
As far as other content, you can TS, do missions... people constantly bitch and complain about how "aww man i cant make no money, i cant level a craft" what a bunch of BS. I mean, yeah you cant level GS if you just wana stand there and buy the mats off the auction house lol, heaven forbid if people actually went out there and GASP gatherd there own mats...
Just looking at the MMORPG awards on the front page, it just dawns on me that this website is pure trash. The idea that FFXI doesnt even get listed for best story is a freakin joke. I only post here cause im bored at work... and any FFXI player wouldnt give this site the time of day... so w/e if i was an EvE player and since i dont even have to play the game to actually progress (lol) sure id have a lot of forum time on my hands.. and WoW is like an empty roll of toilet paper.
Rites of the Four Horsemen
http://www.rotfh.com
Very nice review.
One thing that always stood out for me is the water. There is actually a coast line and waves roll onto the beaches and even the sand gets wet and as the water retreats dries out again. It's beautifull. There are coral reefs you can see beneath the water when you ride a clipper and dolphins will follow the boat. Character models and armors are REAL and are not just plastic dolls with armor painted on. The amount of detail is unmatched so far.
The only thing that i can say against FFXI is the amount of dedication and time you have to bring to get things done. It can get a bit frustrating at times. Don't get me wrong, i love a challange, but you can't just log on and have fun (except with beastmaster). I do understand why people get put off by this. I am a long time player and i have reached the cap and most jobs 60+, i also have crafts near cap (96/92) and alot at 60, but i took a step back and now only play if i have at least 5h time to get things done.
It is still the ONLY game i know were it really means something if you finish a misson/story line. The feeling of achievment is just that great and the involvement in the game with the beautifully told stories, lore and cutscenes are worth the time invested.
see you in Vana'diel
I know it sounds stupid but please tell me if you see the cloak or not?!
The right man for the right job.
The diffrence between the mmorpg.com FFXI review and this one is that this one is HORRIBLY Biased, the mmorpg.com's was not. Giving the graphics a 9 pretty much gave away that this review is too biased to be taken seriously.
on a sidenote, A storyline like FFXI's doesn't have that much to do with RPing. What the reviewer meant is that there is little to no room for roleplay conversations.
first thing, I am tired of these closet DnD PnP people trying to live out there fav module and then bitching that a game doesnt allow them to do so. This is the problem with there review, These people are biggest marks i have ever seen for all things PnP and they tend to transfer there "PnP is the only way to play" mentality to the MMORPG genre... There whole issue with CS, is also a joke.
I'm biased? No, MMORPGS.COM is biased. They $hit on everything that is not Vanguard. They have no clue what makes for interesting encounters, have no clue what meaningful exploration or character development is. The graphics are nine because if a game like EvE, gets such high grades then this should also.
Let me give you the real reason why, this game is not rated higher on the player ratings... its because we are all to busy PLAYING our game... Almost everyone I have ever meet playing games like EQ2 and like EvE they all play it cause there waiting for that "next game"... so you come here and you actually see people that actually enjoy there mmorpg, there not looking to trade up at the drop of a hat and wtf do you call that... yeah i guess im bias
Rites of the Four Horsemen
http://www.rotfh.com
I am just tired of this website in general. Tired of looking for news and then having to hear about there PnP "glory days"... Guess I just Hijacked my own thread, but really. This whole "I love DnD and i have to let everyone know" has to go. If you like PnP, cool gather once a week with your 3 frustrated friends and have at it but jesus christ, dont let that cloud your view of what you could do in a new setting.
The guy who judged this game, he basically didnt even get out of the dunes, lol. Basically, hes like ever other n00b. Who couldnt cut it and went back to EQ2 or WoW... or GASP
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Rites of the Four Horsemen
http://www.rotfh.com
first thing, I am tired of these closet DnD PnP people trying to live out there fav module and then bitching that a game doesnt allow them to do so. This is the problem with there review, These people are biggest marks i have ever seen for all things PnP and they tend to transfer there "PnP is the only way to play" mentality to the MMORPG genre... There whole issue with CS, is also a joke.
I'm biased? No, MMORPGS.COM is biased. They $hit on everything that is not Vanguard. They have no clue what makes for interesting encounters, have no clue what meaningful exploration or character development is. The graphics are nine because if a game like EvE, gets such high grades then this should also.
Let me give you the real reason why, this game is not rated higher on the player ratings... its because we are all to busy PLAYING our game... Almost everyone I have ever meet playing games like EQ2 and like EvE they all play it cause there waiting for that "next game"... so you come here and you actually see people that actually enjoy there mmorpg, there not looking to trade up at the drop of a hat and wtf do you call that... yeah i guess im bias
You only prove more & more that your honnestly biased when it comes to this game, and you will never be able to write a good review for it. MMORPG.com doesn't "$hit" on everything that isn't Vanguard, thats completely bull. the reviewer actually gave FFXI very good & high scores, but you should look beyond the "all together" score. the only reason FFXI received such a "low" end score is because it received very low scores in Roleplaying and Service, and medicore score in sound.
There simply isn't a lot of space for roleplaying. There is no open pvp,and the PVP that IS there are friendly competitions between the nations. There are not a lot of places that are attractive to sit down & roleplay, And there are close to zero world events.
About the sound, I personally would be more satisfied with a 7. I don't really have any big complains, but the sound effects are pretty annoying at times.
Also, anybody that can look at the wider picture can see that EVE's graphics are slightly superior then FFXI, This is because CCP updates its games graphics every now and then, SE doesn't.
Also, saying this game is rated " low" on the rankings because the players are all busy playing the game where other games are not is ignorant. I'm not even going to bother to write a detailed reply to that comment, its just completely rediculous.
You only prove more & more that youre honestly biased when it comes to this game, and you will never be able to write a good review for it.
You need to change that to IMO, because it is the opinion of the other posters that my review was good.
MMORPG.com doesn't "$hit" on everything that isn't Vanguard, thats completely bull. The reviewer actually gave FFXI very good & high scores, but you should look beyond the "all together" score. The only reason FFXI received such a "low" end score is because it received very low scores in Role-playing and Service, and mediocre score in sound.
I already responded to those scores, which where incorrect, or should I say, petty.
There simply isn't a lot of space for role-playing. There is no open pvp, and the PVP that IS there are friendly competitions between the nations. There are not a lot of places that are attractive to sit down & role-play, And there are close to zero world events.
Space for RPing? Wtf does that mean? Lol. Once again, I get this DnD/PnP type of expectation, I mean I could argue that most of the RPGs that currently out on the market are indeed not RPGs due to the fact that they have NO STORY LINE. PvP lol, again I dont play mmorpgs for PVP, I was once the leader of the #1 rated C/S clan on TC I enjoy FPS far to much to play something gimped and retarded like a pvp centric mmorpg if you can tell me 1 mmo except for UO that got PVP right lol maybe ill take a look. Now your kind of pulling stuff out of your arse, there are tons of events. Once again your one of those people who NEVER played the game, why dont you go ahead and state your rank / level / ?
About the sound, I personally would be more satisfied with a 7. I don't really have any big complains, but the sound effects are pretty annoying at times.
And what mmos arent, sure EvE has a great sound track (Thats about it though lol)
Also, anybody that can look at the wider picture can see that EVE's graphics are slightly superior then FFXI, This is because CCP updates its games graphics every now and then, SE doesn't.
I will agree that CCP puts far more money back in to EvE then square does but maybe its because EvE has been in a constant state of evolution ahem or I should say beta testing lol. EvE sure it has some decent visuals but after all this time they still have graphical glitches FFXI is a polished product, eve is not.
Lies, you know this is true, you would be hard pressed to find an EvE player that actually DOESNT read this forum. Heck, if I could park my Galka and have him merit by himself im sure I would have more free time. This ease of play is indicative of the community. When serious gamers goto a game looking for challenge and when a corp. only does X event once a day how is that player being challenged. I dont play mmorpgs to play 3 hours a day. When every player is lazy or unmotivated how can special people accomplish BIG THINGS Sure maybe you have a few serious guilds but after all this time, when you have to /wait 3+ months just to get going wtf is the point. In a game like FFXI good players are good and well bad players come here and post bs.Also, saying this game is rated " low" on the rankings because the players are all busy playing the game where other games are not is ignorant. I'm not even going to
Rites of the Four Horsemen
http://www.rotfh.com
I wasn't alone in this either. Nearly every single one of my friends and various others I asked about in endgame Linkshells (and you need to get into a good one if you have any hopes of getting that Kraken Club[ha!right], God Gear, Ridill, etcetc. which is hard in and of itself) were playing out of pure addiction. And they're love of FFXI of course. It took me a while to finally strip down my reasons as to why I was playing this game. After I figured out that I didn't enjoy hitting my /assist macro in Dynamis for 3 hours, or waiting six hours for a NM to pop only to get outclaimed by RMT or getting to a point where I had to literally play for at least 3-4 hours to get anything of merit done I ended up quitting. It took me 3 times but I finally did it. That's how strongly I felt not for the game, but for the people I'd grown to know. Which is one of the areas this game shines in as previously stated.
The graphics aren't bad but they're not up to par with other MMO's coming out now. Some of the jobs were out of balance last time I was playing. You had to be a really badass DRK or DRG to even get invited to parties while playing those jobs. Things might have changed but they hadn't ever sinced they nerfed Penta-Thrust spam for DRGs about 2 years ago they'd never really recovered. RMT was a nuisance when I played. It looks like with the ban they're finally trying to do something but if it's anything like the other bans, RMT will quickly recover and go right back to it.
That's not to say this is neccessarily a horrible game. On the contrary I had some really good times with it. However my suggestion if you want to play this game for a long period of time is to find or start a good LS, and learn to manage your time. Otherwise you'll wake up one day realizing that this has become your second job.
Cheers.
-Oz
Yes, I also find that shallow and pedantic.
For those of us that have already done that, the game is over in terms of soloing
It is quite clear, that I am first gen mmo player and your are the later. It is quite clear that I believe intelligent PVE encounters are what is important to mmorpgs, you think being able play an mmorpg by yourself is. It is very simple, FFXI was a next gen game that followed games like EQLive. Fact is FFXI is a eq clone but was better then EQ. Why do I say this? IDK I played eq for 5 years and have played ffxi since it launched in NA… I could go into detail about how, FFXI doesn’t suffer from all the mudflation issues that EQ does, that although FFXI dev team made a number of mistakes that Variant did, that FFXI improved on many core problems that EQ had… But intelligent conversation is frowned upon in wake of this new breed that populate these new, easy, instant gratification games.
I just fail to understand how a gamer, with a ounce of skill would enjoy a pvp centric game LIKE EvE or LIKE L2. As if your going to find any RPing in EvE or L2 or lolWoW (even on a WoW rp server)… what a joke.
Your comments on the balance is retarded, because you never even played this game. You cant give a detailed comment as to why its not balanced, basically you just speak out your can but who cares? Because that’s what people do here on mmorpg.com
At least I come here with the knowledge that ive played all the games I actually speak about. All you do is you just read BS on forums and take it for truth. Truth is
FFXI > ALL other PVE MMORPGS and the only game on the horizon that could be better is VG… and guess what, ITS NOT BECAUSE OF THE PVP RULE SET SERVERS.
DDDRites of the Four Horsemen
http://www.rotfh.com
Quick note: real reviews highlight positive and negative aspects of a game. Biased reviews offer limited perspectives on one side or the other. As another user stated, your review is incredibly narrow-sighted and biased, whereas mine highlights both the good, the bad, and the ugly.
I liked these gems:
"This is also why the community gets a 10. If you’re an RMT / douche guess what, you get shut out. If your that type of person in WoW? Who cares, everyone else is."
"People who complain about c/s are generally stupid users."
Typically, fanbois who condemn reviews for not glorifying/demeaning a game excessively out of it's due proportion are stupid people. You fit the profile perfectly.
Lastly, it's clear you have no comprehension of the difference between role-playing and a storyline. I question if you even read the review, as I separated the two sections. Perhaps you should brush up on your basic MMO terminology.
Sorry you didn't care for my review, but not really!
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i applaud you cymdai you reviewed a game based on your experiences with that game . you stated your reasons in an impartial way. i do not believe that you are biased but merely did your job. i read reviews to get a gleaming of what possible like minded gamers thought of a game i am looking at but ultimately i would choose a game on what i thought after having several bits of info. i thank you for writing reveiws and helping gamers decide what factor in a game appela to them. games should be diverse and offer something to the gamer if you like pvp play that sort if you want pve play that but it is wrong to flame someone for giving a reveiw on his experiences. i agree he the reviewer didnt play for years but for whatever time was allotted. please give credit for all the writers for doing the best they can. i would love to have the original posters review aslo and would read that but please present it in a way that i can read and not with a tone that makes me chuckle for you because then me and others really dont give the credit the ops review desreves
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