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WoW being voted for best story is just as bad as EVE being voted for PVE imo........... WoW butchered the Warcraft lore just so they could put crap in to attract more players which imo is a bad move......... but to each his own........ I only voted for EQ2 on Best Graphics and for GW on best game of 2006 and AoC for most anticipated and left the rest blank because I refuse to vote for WoW or EVE. In the first run I voted for AO for best PVE and best game, GW for best PVP and graphics and best of 2006. Personally I dont think these votes mean much, they are obviously way biased but oh well.
Originally posted by Lepidus
Originally posted by Nierro Originally posted by DrAtomic Originally posted by Nierro The fact that WoW is up for best PvP and best story makes these awards look like a joke.
Originally posted by checkthis500 Ipersonally found it strange that EVE got voted in for best PvE. The game is amazing, but PvE it just doesn't have. Eh, ohwell. If they win out, I'll definitely laugh.
I could seriously care less WHO wins as long as it had at least the APPEARACE of being legit. clicking through the final votes and seeing only two games is LAME no matter how you slice it.
I thought the editors where going to add in a nominee in each catagory and filter out games that simply don't belong? Sure they got the most vote but you need to at least include anoother choice at least. Claiming they were the top voters by a huge margin then having ANOTHER Vote just between them is retarded at best.
Originally posted by Malthros Originally posted by Nierro Originally posted by DrAtomic Originally posted by Nierro The fact that WoW is up for best PvP and best story makes these awards look like a joke.
Originally posted by Nierro Originally posted by Malthros Originally posted by Nierro Originally posted by DrAtomic Originally posted by Nierro The fact that WoW is up for best PvP and best story makes these awards look like a joke.
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Originally posted by Malthros Originally posted by Nierro Originally posted by Malthros Originally posted by Nierro Originally posted by DrAtomic Originally posted by Nierro The fact that WoW is up for best PvP and best story makes these awards look like a joke.
I for one find EVE's PvE fun.
True it does not even come close to PvP and honestly should not even be compared to it, but PvE can be interesting if played with low end ships and equipment. Not to mention with the instanced areas that abound throuout the whole game universe give even beginning players a chance to see some of the best and biggest explosions in any MMO.
I dont have much experence in MMOs I have only played EVE and SWG because I'm not really into fantasy ( Elder Scrolls and Lord of the Ring being the very few exceptions) and a majority of MMos out there are fantasy. But I love playing EVE because it lets me play my way, I dont need to be shown were to go or what to do to get the best gear or loot, I rather find that on my own, true I dont expect others to be this way, but it seems to me that there is enough people out there that DO think like this or EVE would never be this popular on this site.
Of cource the fact that EVE was down twice for an extended period MAY have something to do with the votes herer lol.
but I wonder how the votes would look if the "none of the above" option was valad for ALL catagories. I liked it for the one catagory it was in.
Originally posted by Malthros Originally posted by hercules Another year ,another call to arms on EVE forums,possibly another clean sweep for eve.I wonder if L2,FFX!,EQ2 or WoW done similar rallying calls would eve even make it to finals.I think not as this games all have at least 2+ the number of subs EVE has.And please don't say eve getting all this finalist votes because its so super.However i think i like this method of few finalist mostly 2 in most categories.I see a lot of people who don't even like WoW or EQ2 casting votes for them now.
L2 forums wouldn't matter because farmers won't care to vote for the game.FFX players are too busy trying to find parties that will last more than 30 seconds.SoE is too busy killing their games to mention a website's read's choice awards.WoW could have it mentioned on their boards, but Blizzard has damn near 0 interaction with players, whereas alot of EVE players not only have interacted with devs, but actually get to known them and care about their players.Besides, do you think hordes of WoW players would come swarming here? Most likely no, because to be honest, the majority of those 7 million couldn't give a damn about the game's image, and it'd take away from their complex spamming, or boar killing in the forest.It is odd only two finalists in each catagory, but as these are read choice awards, if the vast majority of readers areEVE/WoW players, then even having other games listed, isn't going to cause one of them to oust EVE or WoW, now is it?
Very astute observation
Despite being a sell professed EVE fanboi I have to say that the inclusion in best PvE is a tad over the top...
Nevertheless as the poster above has pointed out EVERYONE had an opportunity to vote on the finalists, every developer had the chance to highlight the awards to their fanbase - if EVE is the only MMORPG where the devs can actually be bothered to inform their readers of the awards (and the existence of MMORPG.com) then fair play to them.
I first started reading MMORPG.com around 4/5 years ago when I played a game called Planetarion - and the reason I did - because the Devs behind Planetarion told everyone on thhose forums to support the game in a vote on here...
And if you think that today's voting system is bad please remember that back in those days you didnt even need to be registered (let alone have any posting/activity record) before you could vote.
If EVE fans are dedicated enough to sign up here and actually vote what does that actually tell you about the game. If they were dissatisfied would they even bother going through the rigmarole?
My online gaming goes right back to MUDS played on the old network at uni. Since then I have played all manner of online games from text based games like Planetarion, through to WoW and EVE. All have their attractions in many ways - however for me EVE is the ultimate and I have been playing it for three years now and it just gets better and better.
Do I dislike other MMORPGs - no I dont and I try many of them but EVE drags me back as it does most of its subscribers. Please tell me how many other MMORPGS are still increasing their subscriber numbers over 3 years after they launch?
Yes total EVE subscriber numbers are comparitively small when compared to WoW's but the game (and the developer) started small with a fresh IP, without the built in fanbase, hype and sheer marketing blitz of Blizzard.
Anyway going on now so will stop
Dana MasseyFormerly of MMORPG.comCurrently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios
I don't really see the point of doing this considering the fact there is a community-based rank of the recommended games aka popularity wars. It's just about which game has most subscribers willing to come here willing to help improve the image of their game, not about the game quality itself. Reader's Choice Awards is pointless and we'll see funny unfundamented finalists such as WoW for *generic* PvP, EVE for PvE, WoW for storyline, WoW for graphics, etc.
GW have also a different unique PvP. You will really never ever see another game with a PvP similar to GW. WWII also has a different type of PvP.
D&D Online has great storyline.
Of course, I can only comment on experiences I've had myself. Even though I have a side fully dedicated to GW for its uniqueness, I have a side that wants fairness. EVE deserved its awards on some categories, in others clearly not, same for WoW even though it can be compared to any other generic MMORPG around, like RF Online, Knight Online, EQ, EQII, L2, Archlord and others which I have not experienced. I really look forward the Choice from the Editors, hoping they are fair enough and to their votes based on some solid knowledge, not picking EVE as the one that will appeal as the one that is most likely to rally its players to MMORPG.com as a means of saying "thanks for helping us!". Can't comment on WoW, the player base is huge enough that even a small percentage of it being mature would result in a huge number.
Originally posted by arrin I just wish there was a None of the Above option for all of the categories...
Originally posted by DrAtomic Originally posted by Nierro The fact that WoW is up for best PvP and best story makes these awards look like a joke.
Have faith in God, believe in antimatter.
Originally posted by Lepidus A reminder for everyone.The nominations are based 100% on YOUR voting.We've learned a lesson though. Last year we did nominations and everyone attacked us demanding open categories. This year we did open categories and everyone attacked us demanding nominations. Next year, we'll try a combination of the two I realize it's tough to see two games dominate, especially if you don't play either. The fact was though they were the only two games to get statistically significant votes in most of the categories. I could have nominated other games for show, but when you put two games that had votes in the 30s and 40s vs a bunch of games that had less than 5% of the vote, we're just perpetuating a charade.I had hoped people would vote for the category and not for the game, but sadly it didn't turn out that way and there is nothing to be done but see the thing through.