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Has MMORPG always been like this?
ammie
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I have been visiting MMORPG on and off for a couple of years, recently a lot more due to not finding a game that holds my interest.
Of late I have been finding that reading these forums is becoming more and more depressing. Someone will post what seems a reasonable question and before you know it a war of words has started. Trying to sift the intelligent stuff from the dross is getting harder and harder.
Words like "Carebear" "ganker" "noob""wtf" are used indiscriminately; I mean what actually is a Carebear? Players are so diverse they rarely fit one single slot. People are flaming each other so easily and showing very little respect. We are also so intent on labelling everything, we don't need games like WoW to help us lose our individuality, we are doing it to our-selves
Freedom of speech is great but freedom of anonymous speech, not so great! Its becoming harder for the middle man to be heard. For many its "your either on our side or your not"
I do feel sorry for the GMs that have to check these forums, they'll be having nightmares of Gankers chasinng Carebears whilst Noobs cry "wtf"
Luckily there are still some great discussions and well-written articles to make this site well worth visiting, I would just hate to see it swamped!
My question is, has it always been like this and I have not noticed, or has it been caused by maybe something like the "WoW boom!!"
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When they ruined SWG people came here to complain.
When people got to 60 in WoW they came here to look for another MMO.
When they ruined SWG again, more people came.
And all these people stuck around, and now everyone cries because their games they loved aren't around anymore, and theres nothing out that suits them.
I quite agree
Most of the people came here to find MMO to play. Problem is that MMOs of today are all...well...crap!
So people just hang out here to check the news, or rumours. And bitch around in the mean time.
So i would really not blame people, blame the game industry for not delivering...
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
Most of the posts were focused on games and addressing there issues. That was really before people had become so disillusioned about the industry. It really was the beginning of the modern crop of mmorpgs we all play now.
We all saw how that turned out
THe next crop of games have alot of potenial but I cant seriously be anything but pessimistic tell I see there results. THe devs will have to prove there mettle this time or I suspect people will just get more and more pessimistic.
Take a deep drink of your demon Lad, tonight we tangle with the fire in the gut.
I see the same problems with the WOW crowd and the EVE crowd, I have friends that play both games but at the extreme end in each of these games lies the people that seem to clash. Between the EVEletist and the WOW pawns all crowd you know there will be nothing but flame wars. I think that may be the issue the industry has diverisfied to satisfy different crowds to some degree and these crowds can't play nice so to speak.
Take for example SWG, I played from launch til around a month after NGE. I came back a little over a month ago to check out the "progress" and first time I mentioned how i miss the old system some lvl 10 jedi jumps down my throat about how the game sucked before and now it rocks and I'm a noob and should leave the game to the real fans, made me laugh as I'd been playing SWG for more than 3 years and now a lvl 10 jedi was telling me how it was when he maybe had been in game for a week. I promptly canceled again and it never felt better than to leave the current SWG crowd to play what the game became.
Its a difference in gamers and it isn't growing smaller its getting bigger. To me the various groups can't seem to play nice together but look at it this way if you see a thread is complete flamebait do what I do and move to a thread worth reading.
Peace
Most of the people came here to find MMO to play. Problem is that MMOs of today are all...well...crap!
So people just hang out here to check the news, or rumours. And bitch around in the mean time.
So i would really not blame people, blame the game industry for not delivering...
That's the sad truth where are these next gen MMOs
You are exactly correct, that is just what forums are about. That is what they have become and it's complete bulls**t. All forums here and WoW forums in particular, and many other MMO and gaming forums, are filled with spamming like 'first!' and 'IBTL' and flaming anyone and everyone that takes the time to post something. These people are called trolls, remember that and don't become one.
Intelligent discussion written in good readable English? No way, just all kinds of 1337-speak and net shorthand like 'wtf.' Hey, I understand the shorthand thing like using 'lol.'
I can sum it up shortly. It's because games are, admit it or not, kid's toys. It has been and always be that way. I am far from a kid, agewise and maturity, but I do play games. It's entertainment to me. The computer has become the babysitter, think about it, or admit it if you're one of the kids I'm talking about. The TV was the babysitter in the '90s, now it's the computer. Sadness.
MMORPG -- Where's the RP?
truely a said sight ot see....so UNCLE SAM want YOU to make the next gen MMO and spark the interestes of MILLIONS! ur prize? SATISFACTION AND FAME! maybe even load of $$$ if it has an item shop....please SOMEONE needs to make it,now the question is...WHO?
Death's Little Helper, Watch your ass
People should be lighting a fire under the ass of those behind the MMO scene. I'm sick and tired of the "gung-ho capitalists" and "corporate soldiers" that today's media brainwashing produces. People who jump in other folk's shit for pointing out how much we're ALL being screwed... people without a pot to piss in defending multi-million dollar companies against folks in the same boat.
If you haven't fallen for this media and marketing driven attitude implementation- you KNOW what I'm talking about. Average people used to band together to stick up for one another; now they're sticking it to eachother taking sides with people who can buy and sell them.
It's bad enough the MMO pimps know they can walk all over the vast majority of teen gamers who make up this market; lacking any sense of consumer advocacy- but it's gamers against gamers as well.
Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.
Blame the designers! Lazy overpaid folks!
You see, once upon a time, the designers where like: Let's get a great game and keep it great for it fans. But designers today have 1 such flaw if not both: - Let's interest everyone. - Let's keep artificial interest so players maintain subscribtions, even if we have to ruin the game. Some games end up having a design to maintain an artificial interest on every player, which isn't fun to start with, it is not the FUN game anymore, it is the artificial interest, aka, what the players don't like. And so, raiding was born.
Interesting many various groups could be great, but when you become superficial for everyone, you are superficial.
Again, blame the designers.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
playing eq2 and two worlds