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Absolutely rediculous.
Steakpuncher
Member Posts: 255
I had the front page on MMORPG.com sat there for a while, and when I refreshed, i noticed guildwars had jumped EvE in the ratings thing. I also noticed a trash account with a name like "agadgd" had registered. I went away, checked my e-mails and refreshed again, to find another trash account had registered. Fast forward a few minutes and over 15 accounts have registered, all with trash names, all Male and 26 years old, all have obviously none existant E-mail addresses and are obviously spamming the ratings for one of the games (EvE or Guildwars)
Perhaps its time some sort of restriction is imposed on this voting, at the very least, make members have to be registered for X months before they can vote. Im not a fan of any of the games in the top 10, but these actions are stupid, and you're ending up with probably hundreds of accounts made for the sole purpose of spamming these rating to make sure that some morons favourite game stays on top.
I really like this site and love to read the forums, and like the fact I can find out information on almost any game in the MMORPG genre, but is saddens me that people stoop so damn low over something like this, I mean, does it really matter to them where the game is in the ratings as long as they enjoy it? Or am I missing something, like if EvE drops to second place for more than 15 minutes will they shut the game down? Or does a game need to be in the top 10 to be Enjoyable?
Note: Between now and the time I first witnessed what was going on, there have been 72 accounts registered, and thats not counting any ive missed before I first refreshed the page, and its still going on (at this point there are 510,319 members on the site, will be intresting to see where it ends up in an hour, especially when the fans of the other game begin doing the same routine.
Perhaps its time some sort of restriction is imposed on this voting, at the very least, make members have to be registered for X months before they can vote. Im not a fan of any of the games in the top 10, but these actions are stupid, and you're ending up with probably hundreds of accounts made for the sole purpose of spamming these rating to make sure that some morons favourite game stays on top.
I really like this site and love to read the forums, and like the fact I can find out information on almost any game in the MMORPG genre, but is saddens me that people stoop so damn low over something like this, I mean, does it really matter to them where the game is in the ratings as long as they enjoy it? Or am I missing something, like if EvE drops to second place for more than 15 minutes will they shut the game down? Or does a game need to be in the top 10 to be Enjoyable?
Note: Between now and the time I first witnessed what was going on, there have been 72 accounts registered, and thats not counting any ive missed before I first refreshed the page, and its still going on (at this point there are 510,319 members on the site, will be intresting to see where it ends up in an hour, especially when the fans of the other game begin doing the same routine.
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It just seems really odd, 100+ registrastions and you need 5 posts to vote *i think* so your looking at 500 additional posts on the forums, unless said person is just making these accounts with a veiw to logging them in everyday, and assaulting the ratings in a weeks time.
I really dont know, but despire the motive, someone is registering a ton of accounts.
All this means is that someone is membership bombing MMORPG.com. Probably in an effort to win one of their contests. Since all of these new members are probably from the same IP address, I don't doubt MMORPG.com has a means to 'winnow the chaff from the wheat'.
you need 100 posts to review a game.
Guild - http://lightness.goodforum.net/
Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/
False. You need a rank of 5/100 to review/hype a game.
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Darn you beat me to it... I have been able to reveiw games for a long time and I've just started to post on these boards.
And as you can see I'm not even close to 100 posts.
cool , ill start recruiting people to vote on guildwars then
Guild - http://lightness.goodforum.net/
Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/
true , but we know that way before guildwars was on top on that list
and we also know , it will be no time before eve gets back up ... sooo
dont panic
Guild - http://lightness.goodforum.net/
Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/
I knew voting was bad here. And it does explain eve being number one for so long. Go to any other game site, and everyone hates that game.
I've won a contest here a couple times now and they don't verify anything with you. So people might be creating 5 accounts to makes sure they win, using a yahoo email address which are free. This is probably why so many contest winners are never claimed, because they are just bot accounts to make sure they win.
I really think mmorpg.com should step up the application process, without having to make it a pay site. Actually, it being a paysite probably would deter most kids away, which would be fine by me. Maybe making a time requirement is the best way, such as having to be a member for 3 months or so. That would work I guess.
i dont agree
i dont think that time requirements or number of posts requirements will make people stop giving 1 to the games they hate and 10 to the games they are playing.
what i found really amazing is : where is wow in this story ?
7.5 million 11 year old kids ?
if they start making fake acounts and vote on wow , not eve or eny other game have a chance.
Guild - http://lightness.goodforum.net/
Blog - http://www.pierrecarlier.com/
true , but we know that way before guildwars was on top on that list
and we also know , it will be no time before eve gets back up ... sooo
dont panic
Who says I want GW on top? I'd rather have EVE on top then GW, where at least I know EVE is an MMORPG, GW is not. If it is true that an EVE player is creating new accounts to hype EVE, and I say IF, then your not doing any better then that person is. the ratings are already screwed up enough as it is without hoards of GW fanbois giving the game 10's and other games 1's.
and nice going, calling all WoW players 11 years old, which is pretty rich, comming from a GW player.
i dont agree
i dont think that time requirements or number of posts requirements will make people stop giving 1 to the games they hate and 10 to the games they are playing.
what i found really amazing is : where is wow in this story ?
7.5 million 11 year old kids ?
if they start making fake acounts and vote on wow , not eve or eny other game have a chance.
You can't stop people from rating a game what they want. So I am not even concerned with that. I am mostly concerned with people abusing the free membership system and creating multiple accounts to either rate a game low or high several times rather than once, or for contest purposes. The rating system is fair. There was a post by one of the admins about a year ago that explained how the ratings are done. I can't remember exactly anymore, but a rating of 1 cancels out a 10 and visa versa. The rating system, even with fanbois and haters are balanced. The only real thing to worry about is the multiple account holders that are immature enough to "cheat" to get "their" game on top.
Just look at the ratings as a loose guideline and remember to check out other sites and reviews before relying fully on mmorpg.com's rating system.
what i found really amazing is : where is wow in this story ?
7.5 million 11 year old kids ?
if they start making fake acounts and vote on wow , not eve or eny other game have a chance.
7,5 million 11 year old kids? I find it more disturbing and immature to see a 31 year old guy wanting to 'recruit' people to vote on a silly game so it reaches the meaningless top of the game list. I'm glad World of Warcraft doesn't have alot of those players.
Either way, it doesn't matter of these accounts are being made to skew ratings, or win contests, all that matters is the fact they are being made for an unjust reason, to cheat the system in some way. I understand what someone said before about making the site require a fee of some kind to scare the "kids" away, its not kids that are responsible for things like these, its more likely to be late teens/early adults who are doing this sort of thing. Kids will generally argue for their own opinion, but rarely try and force it onto other. Its the teenagers/Adults who need their opinions (in this case the game they enjoy) to be the the top ranking, or most popular, because they feel good when they turn to someone and say "the game I play is the best, just look at the ratings on this site".
A real gamer is someone who can play SWG:NGE and turn around to an older player and say "Well thats your opinion but I enjoy this game the way it is, and im going to continue playing it" and leave it at that. A true gamer is someone who could play the game with the lowest rating, and not care that its the lowest rating, only caring about the fact they enjoy it.
People who make 100's of accounts to spam ratings are "great gamers" they aren't even "cool" they are pathetic idiots who need to make their opinion validated my the majority, even if that majority is composed of hundreds of E-copies of themselves so they can voice their opinion as the majority. I mean, the people doing this are acting as if their enjoyment of the game will stop if its not in 1st place. Does this mean if EvE drops to 3rd place all its players have to quit and find a new game? Does the same thing apply to guild wars? What If all the WoW subscribers made 100 accounts, and WoW had 750million 10/10 votes added to its total and every other game had a 1/10 vote added, would all these EvE/GW players quit and join WoW? I dont think so. So for all of the people out there thinking of skewing the game rankings, just think to yourself, do these votes increase or decrease my enjoyment of the game
Sorry to jump in so late, but I do agree they do check on enteries for beta contests, otherwise it's pointless for both them and the company that gave MMORPG.com those keys..
Anyway.. about the 'rating issue' I highly agree that account bombing by a fanboi to boost his game up makes the system totally unrealistic, a simple solution to this is split the ratings up, on the main page show MMORPG's score and once clicked on the games info page again show the same score AND the player's score.. then ppl can hype up the the game as much as they want (because thats all the scorce is now 'hype') but a 'true' score will be always shown, maybe a 3rd avg score given by the long term members reviews so basically they'll be MMORPG's Score, Player Reveiw Score, and then the Hype meter score.. thus giving a better picture of the game in question
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
Infact a better idea would be to require people to write a few paragraphs about the game when they submit their ratings for it, so you know they are rating it on experiance and not just bombing the ratings.
Although each one would need reveiwing and removing if its obvious trash, and I doubt the MMORPG staff would want to sit and wade through tonnes of reveiws just to make sure people arent spamming the ratings.
Edit: Ive just checked the number on the first page, and its almost been 12 hours since this thread has been posted, and there are over 3000 more accounts registered on the site. So your looking at 250 accounts per hour, or around 1 account being registered every 15 seconds. Obviously a handfull will be serious registrants on another note, laods of these registrations are coming from a site called 126.com which from my google search appears to be a chinese site (most of the rgistration e-mails are *something*@126.com)
I won the LoTRO Beta and a Horizons 60 day account on this website. All it said in the contest is to make sure that my name and address were on my profile, which I did. They never contacted me to verify the information, they just sent me the keys over email. All a person needs to do is to create an extra account with a different email and then put in their friends name and address and just give their friend a heads up, just incase. You know that is possible and that some people probably do it, but I agree that these new accounts are probably used to skew the ratings or are just extra accounts for other forum related reasons.
Now I can't stress this enough, I am an honest person and I only have 1 account. I am a smart person, so it wasn't too hard to come up with a way to cheat the system after I thought about it. I'm sure there are many smart people on this website who came up with the same conclusion as me and are probably exploiting it right now. But I am just letting you know that they don't verify the information on your profile everytime, because they didn't either time with me. Maybe they only do with contests that include box sets.
But FYI GW IS an MMORPG. There's tons of people that play it, it's online, you get gear and a character and skills for roleplaying, and it's a game. See....MMORPG. But you're right though, there's more litle kids playing GW because it's free than little kids playing WoW.
Ya gotta agree though that there's definitely something wrong with the rating system if EVE is staying on top most the time, because it's actually NOT that popular nowadays. If anything should be on top it should be WoW only because there's tons of people that play it and rate it, obviously someone is messing with the rating system.
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