I will put it in a different way too . You go out and buy a new album from a group you heard about, and it was pretty good, so now you like the group and you cant wait for their next album to drop right... only when it comes out it has exactly the same songs on it , but they just sang it in a different pitch and a new beat. Now you had been hearing all this hype about how much better it is than thier last album was... only you had no idea that it was just a remix!! Now would you honestly be happy that it was just a remix or would you be pissed that you got riped off full price for what you already have???
makes complete sense and is very accurate.
And his response was...
You know whats even worse? when you first buy an album of a good group, U2, or whatever floats your boat. next, you buy another CD. yet you find out that its made by a couple of 14 year high school kids thinking they can create music. thats Redbedlam.
Mind you it is understandable after you edited it now... but it is still just a poor attempt to REMIX what I said ... hey wait are you from korea ?
Well, have fun with this thread ,I am glad it will be seen by most of the folks that are thinking about purchasing this game... hope it makes them atleast try the free trial before they throw their money away. But if im correct, the game score will be droping even faster now because more folks will be trying it free, and realize its not worth it, so they will probably not let the free trial go on too much longer... their loseing out on that 30 dollar box fee.
Either way thats all I ever wanted from my OP was to make sure people knew both sides, not just ITS SUPER, from the people who already got suckered outta their money and desporatly want others to be miserable too.
Anyways Gameloading, life calls, have fun in Lineage 2... enjoyed our conversations.
Originally posted by shane910 I said... I will put it in a different way too . You go out and buy a new album from a group you heard about, and it was pretty good, so now you like the group and you cant wait for their next album to drop right... only when it comes out it has exactly the same songs on it , but they just sang it in a different pitch and a new beat. Now you had been hearing all this hype about how much better it is than thier last album was... only you had no idea that it was just a remix!! Now would you honestly be happy that it was just a remix or would you be pissed that you got riped off full price for what you already have??? makes complete sense and is very accurate. And his response was... You know whats even worse? when you first buy an album of a good group, U2, or whatever floats your boat. next, you buy another CD. yet you find out that its made by a couple of 14 year high school kids thinking they can create music. thats Redbedlam. Mind you it is understandable after you edited it now... but it is still just a poor attempt to REMIX what I said ... hey wait are you from korea ? Actually, I pointed out the truth about RedBedlam. they are a bunch of amateurs that created a poor MMORPG that receives extremely poor ratings everywhere (did you know that pcgamer gave RV the LOWEST score they EVER gave to a game?).And no, I am not from korea, you could check this by simply clicking on my user info. Well, have fun with this thread ,I am glad it will be seen by most of the folks that are thinking about purchasing this game... hope it makes them atleast try the free trial before they throw their money away. But if im correct, the game score will be droping even faster now because more folks will be trying it free, and realize its not worth it, so they will probably not let the free trial go on too much longer... their loseing out on that 30 dollar box fee. Yes, I am very sure people will consider your post after reading you only played it for one hour, especialy after I pointed out all the things you didn't experience hence you know nothing about. [/sarcasm]. If anything, this thread made a fool out of you, and you all owe it to yourself. and your not correct, since the free trial has been out for quite a while and the ratings didn't drop that much, if they even did at all. Either way thats all I ever wanted from my OP was to make sure people knew both sides, not just ITS SUPER, from the people who already got suckered outta their money and desporatly want others to be miserable too.I'm actually glad that you made this thread. you have given me the chance to prove that a lot of haters of the game have actually no clue what they are talking about, and did not experience anything of the game. Anyways Gameloading, life calls, have fun in Lineage 2... enjoyed our conversations. Me too, I am always in for a good laugh.
On a sidenote, to everyone who is reading this thread. Unlike shane910, PLAY the game for a good amount of time. Give the trial a go, play it for the 7 days and then decide if the game is for you or not. There is no point to listen to people who only played for one hour.
I enjoyed this thread very much, the original post was a real laugh. Shane your not Hardcore and you can say you have every game that is playable since mmos started and whatever as much as you want, all your doing is blowing your own trumpet and that is lame by anyones standards.
Oh and before you mention how long you have been playing mmos for again, remember some of us have been playing them longer than you, personally i played back in the early days of Lineage 1 (true Hardcore game) and Meridian 59. So i do know what mmos are about and i can clearly see that you are not a true mmo player and you are most definatly NOT hardcore. Your one of those watered down mmo players who only plays a game for 10 mins, comes onto the forums thinking he is god and tells people the gospel according to himself about the game at hand. Well go stick up up your arse you lost credibility as soon as you mentioned the hanger in SCO being like RF Online, that is one of the best ones iv heard. Hahahaha.
"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Hahaha, well I just love it when kiddies get mad cause they read the truth about something.
And like" I "said make sure you try the free trial first ... you will be glad you did.
Garrik, before you start in your little post about how someone else is this and that... take a good long look in the mirror. You lame children that come in here just to try and piss people off really need to get a life ... all you are REALLY doing is showing everyone "I" was right and "you" cant come up with anything worth saying that will defend this game, so you "try" to crack on the people who only want to let people know it's not worth it.
Your one of those watered down mmo players who only plays a game for 10 mins, comes onto the forums thinking he is god and tells people the gospel according to himself about the game at hand. Well go stick up up your arse you lost credibility as soon as you mentioned the hanger in SCO being like RF Online, that is one of the best ones iv heard. Hahahaha.
That was this game... and yeah it wasnt worth playing any longer. and yeah i got a good laugh too when I saw that the begining of this game looked just like the free game SCO.. so hahahaha is right. If that is the best they could do for the start of their game they they suck.
Ohh and just so you know smart guy... that OP was my first on these forums and I felt so strongly ,that this game sucked compared to the hype it recieved from players like you, that yeah I needed to post the truth about it from the perspective of a new player logging into it.
Mabe codemasters needs to realize that they should put the fun and GOOD content more towards the begining of their game since people are not gonna pay for a shit covered tootsie pop for 3 months just to get to that tootsie center that they heard was supposed to be there... guess a few of ya would tho huh? hows your breath?
Ohh almost forgot ... you have been playing them longer than me too huh ... guess you whent back in time and make them come out with mmos before the "actualy" came out with mmos ,cause like I said "duh" been playing them since they came out ya cant push that back further in time, my friend, no matter how bad you want to make your self look good. Think before you post next time. You may be older than me ... mabe, but you werent playing mmos "before" me... period, POSSIBLY the same time... and that makes YOU hardcore?
Just to clarify, their have been many games I have spend months on the grinds, but thats on games that were worth the investment. guess thats what YOU consider hardcore so yeah I am. To me hardcore is more than just grinding, it is when the mmo market has become your hobby,all aspects, and you dont want to see it dummed down by crappy games that are destroying your hobby.
So post back and talk all the shit talk you want still dont change the facts... like I said try the game... then make up your own mind. But whatever ya do dont just toss them your money and hope its good... try it free first and you will know. But it hurts our online communitys when people have to buy a game to try it and it sucks. thats possibly a new player to mmos gone forever. If you cant understand that then I dont know what else I can say to you , or if its even worth the effort.
Don't bother Garrik. Shane910 threw in his own windows after the first few posts, and it seems he still continues to do so. I already proved that his view of the game is flawed, just let it rest.
I will say it like this, the game was "ok". By no means worth a monthly fee, by my standards, I cannot speak on yours though.
If you like haveing to grind and grind and grind... just to be able to play "what the game is based arround" then ok go ahead. But personaly I think that a game should be fun the instant you log in, and progressivly get better throughout, if it is not then you lose the persons intrest quickly.
My case all it took was 10 mins "because" I have played FREE games that were the same, and couldnt see paying for that.
How can you expect someone who has played games just as fun as yours for free, to pay you for yours? Especialy when its not even as fun when you log in to start with ?
I mean seriously you expect us to all just log in and be miserable, paying for it, for a few months just to have fun with it?
In my book that is not acceptable, but to each their own.
Mabe , and I say mabe, if they made it so you dont start paying for the game till you get through all the lame BS of grinding, where the game supposedly begins (according to you) would it be worth it.
I have to agree with Gameloading, until you have played it more your opinion is worthless. I played the game for a few months and i thought it was alrite but it still needed alot of improvements.
Also the fact that you feel the need to respond to a 2 paragraph post with a short essay shows how desperate you are to defend yourself. If your gonna reply, keep it short and sweet, i dont care about your life story or how you some how know the exact date i started playing mmorpgs and it HAD to be the exact same day, time and everything as you.
The only wise thing you have said is this:
"like I said try the game... then make up your own mind. But whatever ya do dont just toss them your money and hope its good... try it free first and you will know. But it hurts our online communitys when people have to buy a game to try it and it sucks. thats possibly a new player to mmos gone forever. If you cant understand that then I dont know what else I can say to you , or if its even worth the effort."
I do agree with that. But i dont agree with you stating a game is crap after only playing it for 10 mins and still thinking your opinion on it is of some value.
But whatever, i dont even play RF anymore so the only reason im defending the game here is becasue i hate it when people give a perfectly good game a terrible review without even giving it a chance.
Garrik
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Waiting for:
Lost Ark
New World
"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Well the debate is over ... im not gonna go back and pay them to pay the game (i already know i dont like) just to be able to talk with yall about it, that dont make sense... just dont make sense.
All the OP was for was so when someone came here to look at the game they would see that it is ... IS very much like all korean MMOs that are out to date.
That way if they dont want that type of game or my post brought up mabe , other questions for them, then they would make sure to try the free trial first... and not just buy it outright hopeing it was what they were expecting. Once they do that if they like it fine...(not trying to change peoples minds) I just dont want new players to hate MMOs because of one or two bad experiances or loss of money through experimentation... at least this post gives the views not only from me(A perspective of a player that wants good content upfront) and you (perspective of a player that was more concerned with the end game experiance) both are valid and both have strong points ... so lets let everyone else make up their minds , with a little more light shed from all arround shall we?
And their are many types of gamers out there , just because you dont agree with them dosent mean they are wrong ... or you . Just read up take it for what it is, get informed and do what you feel will be best for you .
But dont bash someones post just because you dont agree with them... You never saw me come in any of your posts and bash what you thought... I probably read took in consideration what you were speaking on and the style of play you like , to make an informed decision for myself.
I also felt that the posts I was seeing at the time, the ones that led me to try the game, were not informative enough and led me to believe that this game was WAY totaly different than I thought it was ... hence my great dissapointment early on in the game... and my OP.
In closing I wish RF all the best of luck allong with its community, happy hunting , grinding ,pking or whatever it is you enjoy and i'll see you arround .
LOL if you haven't played it, and no logging in, createing and then qiuting is not playing it. Although it sounds like your not a korean player so why in the heck did you bother in the first place. Since you hate the first 3 seconds then you wouldn't like the skill system, cuz it takes more time to develope then LVLing it self
Originally posted by shane910 Well the debate is over ... im not gonna go back and pay them to pay the game (i already know i dont like) just to be able to talk with yall about it, that dont make sense... just dont make sense. All the OP was for was so when someone came here to look at the game they would see that it is ... IS very much like all korean MMOs that are out to date. That way if they dont want that type of game or my post brought up mabe , other questions for them, then they would make sure to try the free trial first... and not just buy it outright hopeing it was what they were expecting. Once they do that if they like it fine...(not trying to change peoples minds) I just dont want new players to hate MMOs because of one or two bad experiances or loss of money through experimentation... at least this post gives the views not only from me(A perspective of a player that wants good content upfront) and you (perspective of a player that was more concerned with the end game experiance) both are valid and both have strong points ... so lets let everyone else make up their minds , with a little more light shed from all arround shall we? And their are many types of gamers out there , just because you dont agree with them dosent mean they are wrong ... or you . Just read up take it for what it is, get informed and do what you feel will be best for you . But dont bash someones post just because you dont agree with them... You never saw me come in any of your posts and bash what you thought... I probably read took in consideration what you were speaking on and the style of play you like , to make an informed decision for myself. I also felt that the posts I was seeing at the time, the ones that led me to try the game, were not informative enough and led me to believe that this game was WAY totaly different than I thought it was ... hence my great dissapointment early on in the game... and my OP. In closing I wish RF all the best of luck allong with its community, happy hunting , grinding ,pking or whatever it is you enjoy and i'll see you arround .
You still don't get it. You didn't play the game. People can miss out on a lot of fun just because you gave them the wrong advice, thinking you know what the heck you are talking about. we "bashed" your post because the info it contained was wrong and incorrect. and it had to be changed.
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I will put it in a different way too . You go out and buy a new album from a group you heard about, and it was pretty good, so now you like the group and you cant wait for their next album to drop right... only when it comes out it has exactly the same songs on it , but they just sang it in a different pitch and a new beat. Now you had been hearing all this hype about how much better it is than thier last album was... only you had no idea that it was just a remix!! Now would you honestly be happy that it was just a remix or would you be pissed that you got riped off full price for what you already have???
makes complete sense and is very accurate.
And his response was...
You know whats even worse? when you first buy an album of a good group, U2, or whatever floats your boat. next, you buy another CD. yet you find out that its made by a couple of 14 year high school kids thinking they can create music. thats Redbedlam.
Mind you it is understandable after you edited it now... but it is still just a poor attempt to REMIX what I said ... hey wait are you from korea ?
Well, have fun with this thread ,I am glad it will be seen by most of the folks that are thinking about purchasing this game... hope it makes them atleast try the free trial before they throw their money away. But if im correct, the game score will be droping even faster now because more folks will be trying it free, and realize its not worth it, so they will probably not let the free trial go on too much longer... their loseing out on that 30 dollar box fee.
Either way thats all I ever wanted from my OP was to make sure people knew both sides, not just ITS SUPER, from the people who already got suckered outta their money and desporatly want others to be miserable too.
Anyways Gameloading, life calls, have fun in Lineage 2... enjoyed our conversations.
I enjoyed this thread very much, the original post was a real laugh. Shane your not Hardcore
and you can say you have every game that is playable since mmos started and whatever as much as you want, all your doing is blowing your own trumpet and that is lame by anyones standards.
Oh and before you mention how long you have been playing mmos for again, remember some of us have been playing them longer than you, personally i played back in the early days of Lineage 1 (true Hardcore game) and Meridian 59. So i do know what mmos are about and i can clearly see that you are not a true mmo player and you are most definatly NOT hardcore. Your one of those watered down mmo players who only plays a game for 10 mins, comes onto the forums thinking he is god and tells people the gospel according to himself about the game at hand. Well go stick up up your arse you lost credibility as soon as you mentioned the hanger in SCO being like RF Online, that is one of the best ones iv heard. Hahahaha.
Now please just realise that you fail.
Garrik
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Waiting for:
Lost Ark
New World
"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Hahaha, well I just love it when kiddies get mad cause they read the truth about something.
And like" I "said make sure you try the free trial first ... you will be glad you did.
Garrik, before you start in your little post about how someone else is this and that... take a good long look in the mirror. You lame children that come in here just to try and piss people off really need to get a life ... all you are REALLY doing is showing everyone "I" was right and "you" cant come up with anything worth saying that will defend this game, so you "try" to crack on the people who only want to let people know it's not worth it.
Your one of those watered down mmo players who only plays a game for 10 mins, comes onto the forums thinking he is god and tells people the gospel according to himself about the game at hand. Well go stick up up your arse you lost credibility as soon as you mentioned the hanger in SCO being like RF Online, that is one of the best ones iv heard. Hahahaha.
That was this game... and yeah it wasnt worth playing any longer. and yeah i got a good laugh too when I saw that the begining of this game looked just like the free game SCO.. so hahahaha is right. If that is the best they could do for the start of their game they they suck.
Ohh and just so you know smart guy... that OP was my first on these forums and I felt so strongly ,that this game sucked compared to the hype it recieved from players like you, that yeah I needed to post the truth about it from the perspective of a new player logging into it.
Mabe codemasters needs to realize that they should put the fun and GOOD content more towards the begining of their game since people are not gonna pay for a shit covered tootsie pop for 3 months just to get to that tootsie center that they heard was supposed to be there... guess a few of ya would tho huh? hows your breath?
Ohh almost forgot ... you have been playing them longer than me too huh ... guess you whent back in time and make them come out with mmos before the "actualy" came out with mmos ,cause like I said "duh" been playing them since they came out ya cant push that back further in time, my friend, no matter how bad you want to make your self look good. Think before you post next time. You may be older than me ... mabe, but you werent playing mmos "before" me... period, POSSIBLY the same time... and that makes YOU hardcore?
Just to clarify, their have been many games I have spend months on the grinds, but thats on games that were worth the investment. guess thats what YOU consider hardcore so yeah I am. To me hardcore is more than just grinding, it is when the mmo market has become your hobby,all aspects, and you dont want to see it dummed down by crappy games that are destroying your hobby.
So post back and talk all the shit talk you want still dont change the facts... like I said try the game... then make up your own mind. But whatever ya do dont just toss them your money and hope its good... try it free first and you will know. But it hurts our online communitys when people have to buy a game to try it and it sucks. thats possibly a new player to mmos gone forever. If you cant understand that then I dont know what else I can say to you , or if its even worth the effort.
More like, the game I viewed was flawed.
I will say it like this, the game was "ok". By no means worth a monthly fee, by my standards, I cannot speak on yours though.
If you like haveing to grind and grind and grind... just to be able to play "what the game is based arround" then ok go ahead. But personaly I think that a game should be fun the instant you log in, and progressivly get better throughout, if it is not then you lose the persons intrest quickly.
My case all it took was 10 mins "because" I have played FREE games that were the same, and couldnt see paying for that.
How can you expect someone who has played games just as fun as yours for free, to pay you for yours? Especialy when its not even as fun when you log in to start with ?
I mean seriously you expect us to all just log in and be miserable, paying for it, for a few months just to have fun with it?
In my book that is not acceptable, but to each their own.
I have to agree with Gameloading, until you have played it more your opinion is worthless. I played the game for a few months and i thought it was alrite but it still needed alot of improvements.
Also the fact that you feel the need to respond to a 2 paragraph post with a short essay shows how desperate you are to defend yourself. If your gonna reply, keep it short and sweet, i dont care about your life story or how you some how know the exact date i started playing mmorpgs and it HAD to be the exact same day, time and everything as you.
The only wise thing you have said is this:
"like I said try the game... then make up your own mind. But whatever ya do dont just toss them your money and hope its good... try it free first and you will know. But it hurts our online communitys when people have to buy a game to try it and it sucks. thats possibly a new player to mmos gone forever. If you cant understand that then I dont know what else I can say to you , or if its even worth the effort."
I do agree with that. But i dont agree with you stating a game is crap after only playing it for 10 mins and still thinking your opinion on it is of some value.
But whatever, i dont even play RF anymore so the only reason im defending the game here is becasue i hate it when people give a perfectly good game a terrible review without even giving it a chance.
Garrik
________________________________
Waiting for:
Lost Ark
New World
"once upon a midnight dreary, while i porn surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of 'hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, "give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404."
Well the debate is over ... im not gonna go back and pay them to pay the game (i already know i dont like) just to be able to talk with yall about it, that dont make sense... just dont make sense.
All the OP was for was so when someone came here to look at the game they would see that it is ... IS very much like all korean MMOs that are out to date.
That way if they dont want that type of game or my post brought up mabe , other questions for them, then they would make sure to try the free trial first... and not just buy it outright hopeing it was what they were expecting. Once they do that if they like it fine...(not trying to change peoples minds) I just dont want new players to hate MMOs because of one or two bad experiances or loss of money through experimentation... at least this post gives the views not only from me(A perspective of a player that wants good content upfront) and you (perspective of a player that was more concerned with the end game experiance) both are valid and both have strong points ... so lets let everyone else make up their minds , with a little more light shed from all arround shall we?
And their are many types of gamers out there , just because you dont agree with them dosent mean they are wrong ... or you . Just read up take it for what it is, get informed and do what you feel will be best for you .
But dont bash someones post just because you dont agree with them... You never saw me come in any of your posts and bash what you thought... I probably read took in consideration what you were speaking on and the style of play you like , to make an informed decision for myself.
I also felt that the posts I was seeing at the time, the ones that led me to try the game, were not informative enough and led me to believe that this game was WAY totaly different than I thought it was ... hence my great dissapointment early on in the game... and my OP.
In closing I wish RF all the best of luck allong with its community, happy hunting , grinding ,pking or whatever it is you enjoy and i'll see you arround .
qiuting is not playing it. Although it sounds like your not a
korean player so why in the heck did you bother in the first
place. Since you hate the first 3 seconds then you wouldn't like
the skill system, cuz it takes more time to develope then LVLing it self