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This game is not an MMORPG.

KethrymKethrym Member Posts: 85

I'm saying this as a warning to all those who want to try it out.  There is no real RP here.   Second Life is a community of players all interacting in a giant chat room with customizable avatars.  Literally.   If you are over 18 (dont take this the wrong way but there is too much content rated R) and looking for an alternative to myspace or online dating then give this a shot.   Everyone from Goths to Furries are excepted in Second Life.   If you can't accept the diversity then please don't go there to verbally attack the community.  

Tips for enjoying Secondlife

1. Be yourself, not the person sitting at the keys, but the person deep within your inner being.  Its possible to be anything in Second Life, be proud of who or what you are.

2. Be tolerant. 

3.  Be social, friends are easily made by going to dance parties, casino's ect. 

4. Under any circumstance dont beg for money.   Money in SL is just like Money here in RL.   I know thats hard to grasp but after you've been broke for months then you will understand it.

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  • SuitepeeSuitepee Member Posts: 921
    It does however possess its own MMORPG's,the big one being Darklife which I am saving my money to get.
  • ApostataApostata Member Posts: 37

    True, SL is not a MMORPG but a Virtual World. Only problem there is absolutely nothing to do in it! It's basically a graphic interface chatroom with some player made animation loops thrown in (for dancing and for... err, let's leave that out).



  • laineylainey Member Posts: 19
    i played it for awhile..not really understanding the game?

    1. how do you earn money, BESIDES those chairs that is REALLY small cash?

    2. i walked around a lot...and found a lot of places...EMPTY O_O

    3. a lot of adult sections, though i am 18+, i found it, annoying with the sexual graphics and what not.

    4. what's the purpose? is it just chatting?


  • SuitepeeSuitepee Member Posts: 921


    Originally posted by lainey
    i played it for awhile..not really understanding the game?

    1. how do you earn money, BESIDES those chairs that is REALLY small cash?

    2. i walked around a lot...and found a lot of places...EMPTY O_O

    3. a lot of adult sections, though i am 18+, i found it, annoying with the sexual graphics and what not.

    4. what's the purpose? is it just chatting?


    1) Besides camping chairs,there are 'money trees' which usually offer a bit more money than the chairs,but are usually watched over like the chairs.

    You can also get a 'job',but most jobs within SL seem to revolve around the sex market as far as I'm concerned. There's possibly some jobs in building/scripting/other. Maybe even the land market.

    You could also sell the things you make. You'll need to be good at building/scripting,but it's free to learn just takes a lot of time and practice.

    You could also use real money to get Linden money.

    2) It's a big world but things will have changed (some places lose popularity...); there's a fair amount of 'junk' out there but most likely most empty places aren't used too often,but they will be used by somebody.

    3) Something you just have to put up with. SL is often criticised as a game for 'sexual avatar relations' (and that's being polite; even people like the Guardian's weekend 'The Guide' have talked about SL in this way in the Duran Duran in SL article),but that's the price of freedom of expression; someone is going to want to get all XXX up ons. As it happens,the most popular places (on basis of traffic) in SL revolve around:

    -Sex clubs/nightclubs.

    -Casinos.

    -Weapon shops.

    That says plenty. There are plenty of non-XXX areas though; you'd have to go looking for them if you really want to get involved.

    4) The purpose is whatever you want it to be. If you want to use SL as nothing more but a chat room with 3d avatars,go ahead. If you want to build fantastic things of wonder,go ahead but be prepared to put the time in. Second Life has no singular goal,just many goals that each individual sets out to do.

  • ApostataApostata Member Posts: 37


    Originally posted by lainey
    1. how do you earn money, BESIDES those chairs that is REALLY small cash?




    One needs to understand that there are no game mechanics at all in SL. There are no in game needs or moods and nothing that effect your avatar in any way. With teleporting, you don't even have to travel to get from here to there. Consequently, there is no economy in our sense of the word (economies require needs), and hence no "jobs" (apart from the adult cyber sector). Simply put, you don't earn money by doing anything USEFUL in the world.

    One might say there is 'business', since a lot of residents build houses (with no use), design pose balls, weapons, and clothing textures etc which they sell to people who have "stipend" memberships, buy Lindens for real cash or "work" by leaving their avatar in a camping chair for an extended period of time.

    "What's the purpose? Is it just chatting?"

    Basically, yes.


  • mbbladembblade Member Posts: 747
    ahhhh so the only thing this is is a glorified chat room then i guess.  Well the heck with it then i guess

  • ZavierKonzZavierKonz Member Posts: 38

    Second Life is more like a big 3D chat world full of crap and banners. I tried it and was pretty dissapointed. Loading is very slow even if I have a very fast computer and a high speed extreme internet.

    I think people are nice in this "game" and it has ALOT of potential but I find Second Life really confusing... I didn't know where to go and what to do.

     

    I don't know, nice game I guess but no for me... for now. image

  • glockmasterglockmaster Member Posts: 147
    secondlife is a mmorpg there is real rp there u can go gorean or choose an anime or from different movies although i have played it a while i have only tryed the naruto rp that is good i know it is real rp its just you have more optoins wich is alot better than one optoin
  • glockmasterglockmaster Member Posts: 147
    i also understand you when u say u need to grasp that money in sl is like money in rl u can buy it or earn it i have found its much easier to  buy mone ythan earn it but i have found latley i did make 3000l in one day dont ask how hehe imageimage
  • glockmasterglockmaster Member Posts: 147

    i understand what you are saying but there are quite a few things to do u could race u could build u can perhaps take up a sport like snowboarding or surfing or perhaps settle down get some land get a house and then perhaps get married and go to night clubs have fun basically

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  • glockmasterglockmaster Member Posts: 147

    there is also a show mature optoin on the search thingy that will take away all the sex things and all rude things there are more pg sandboxes also i think  if it is ticked where it say show mature optoins make it un ticked then u will only get non sexual things and other stuff

     

  • ZavierKonzZavierKonz Member Posts: 38
    Why 4 replies in a row?... this is retarded. image
  • MahloMahlo Member UncommonPosts: 814
    There's no point in complaining that SL is not yet another MMORPG. It's the only place like it on the net. It doesn't appeal to everyone, but if you're at all creative then it has loads of potential. And the fact that lindens are basically a real currency gives it an extra edge. I've made and sold many things in SL. I wouldn't recommend camping though. The pay is laughable.
  • SturmrabeSturmrabe Member Posts: 927



    Originally posted by Mahlo 
    It's the only place like it on the net.



    No there is another: MySpace...

     

    Full of perverts: Check

     

    Angsty Teens: Check

     

    Furries: Check

     

    Emos: Check

     

    Annoying and pointless: Check

     

     

     

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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    Originally posted by Apostata
    Originally posted by lainey
    1. how do you earn money, BESIDES those chairs that is REALLY small cash?
    One needs to understand that there are no game mechanics at all in SL. There are no in game needs or moods and nothing that effect your avatar in any way. With teleporting, you don't even have to travel to get from here to there. Consequently, there is no economy in our sense of the word (economies require needs), and hence no "jobs" (apart from the adult cyber sector). Simply put, you don't earn money by doing anything USEFUL in the world.

    One might say there is 'business', since a lot of residents build houses (with no use), design pose balls, weapons, and clothing textures etc which they sell to people who have "stipend" memberships, buy Lindens for real cash or "work" by leaving their avatar in a camping chair for an extended period of time.

    "What's the purpose? Is it just chatting?"

    Basically, yes.



    The game mechanics are greated by the players, using the scripting engine.

    Its akin to Furcidia.


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  • MahloMahlo Member UncommonPosts: 814



    Originally posted by Sturmrabe



    Originally posted by Mahlo 
    It's the only place like it on the net.


    No there is another: MySpace...

     

    Full of perverts: Check

     

    Angsty Teens: Check

     

    Furries: Check

     

    Emos: Check

     

    Annoying and pointless: Check

     

     

     



    Is the last line your sig?
  • E223E223 Member Posts: 2
    the only real reason to get money is to get land.  I also spend money on avatars, but other than that there's not much worth spending money on.


  • priceless79priceless79 Member Posts: 1
    i have played sl for over a year. you can find anything in this one game actually. if you into just chatting it has a more intense way of doing that yes. if youinto fighting  they have areas you can do that. if you like to design and build then go for that. you just gotta learn where to look for things and who to ask is the problem. it can be a hard game at first to grasp but if you find a good mentor or someone to welcome you and give u a hand it can be lotsa fun. i have had my fair share of helping a newbie here and there and i find most ppl love to help ya if ya just ask.
  • audreys910audreys910 Member Posts: 5



    Originally posted by glockmaster
    secondlife is a mmorpg there is real rp there u can go gorean or choose an anime or from different movies although i have played it a while i have only tryed the naruto rp that is good i know it is real rp its just you have more optoins wich is alot better than one optoin


    But I don't think those people are RPing, they're just doing it because that's who they are and maybe offline they can't express that so well, if I'm understanding what the orignal poster is saying? I dont know, maybe I think of RP like when someone in wow that roleplays a tauren or something? I think its more like a big chatroom which is okay by me!
  • leahr930leahr930 Member Posts: 5

    Originally posted by priceless79
    i have played sl for over a year. you can find anything in this one game actually. if you into just chatting it has a more intense way of doing that yes. if youinto fighting  they have areas you can do that. if you like to design and build then go for that. you just gotta learn where to look for things and who to ask is the problem. it can be a hard game at first to grasp but if you find a good mentor or someone to welcome you and give u a hand it can be lotsa fun. i have had my fair share of helping a newbie here and there and i find most ppl love to help ya if ya just ask.
    I've had similar experiences with people being very helpful if you ask them questions.  You just have to know where to go to find what you're looking for in this game that you will enjoy and then avoid the other stuff if it offends you.


  • darklord-iamdarklord-iam Member Posts: 13
     I only play that game when im rally really horny and have nuttin else to do. the only thing you can do on here is have sex and sit down and walk around and waste lots of muny on buying fake muny and and fake land which is ridiculus but the sex part isnt bad
  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by Kethrym
    I'm saying this as a warning to all those who want to try it out. There is no real RP here. Second Life is a community of players all interacting in a giant chat room with customizable avatars. Literally. If you are over 18 (dont take this the wrong way but there is too much content rated R) and looking for an alternative to myspace or online dating then give this a shot. Everyone from Goths to Furries are excepted in Second Life. If you can't accept the diversity then please don't go there to verbally attack the community.
    Tips for enjoying Secondlife
    1. Be yourself, not the person sitting at the keys, but the person deep within your inner being. Its possible to be anything in Second Life, be proud of who or what you are.
    2. Be tolerant.
    3. Be social, friends are easily made by going to dance parties, casino's ect.
    4. Under any circumstance dont beg for money. Money in SL is just like Money here in RL. I know thats hard to grasp but after you've been broke for months then you will understand it.


    M: It is insanely massive

    M: It holds thousands of players...

    O: It is online...obviously

    R: You play a role with your avatar..

    P: You do play/script/build the game world

    G: It is a virtual game not just a world, ie all the scripts created by users to have fun

    Therefore one can only conclude it is an MMORPG.

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  • GwynethGwyneth Member Posts: 66
    Well, if that mostly means that MMORPGs exist for people having fun with them, so, most definitely, Second Life is also fun :) (and thus, by your definition, a MMORPG :) ).



    However, is MySpace.com a MMORPG as well? ;) Think twice before answering. After all, you have MMORPGs in 2D as well. All it needs is to have massively multiplayer and online, and people playing "roles" and having fun, right? That's what they do in MySpace.com as well :)



    Jokes beside, I admit that Second Life can be a MMORPG, if people want it to be one. It can be an opportunity for role-playing, even if only a tiny minority uses it that way. It can be a business model — after all, people develop content for the Web and call it "web design" and a business! — so, developing 3D design is a business as well. It can be all of the above at the same time, and people will endlessly disagree with what it is. This is, actually, Second Life's greatest strength: the ability to provide to each and every one of us with something that appeals to us — even if others disagree with "our" view on what SL "is".



    However, saying that Second Life is only a chatroom, or only a game/content development tool, or only a MMORPG, it's too limiting. It's all of that put together; each of us, depending on what we want to do with Second Life, will have a different way of using it. Or not. It's up to us :)

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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by Gwyneth
    However, is MySpace.com a MMORPG as well? ;) Think twice before answering. After all, you have MMORPGs in 2D as well. All it needs is to have massively multiplayer and online, and people playing "roles" and having fun, right? That's what they do in MySpace.com as well :)

    MySpace is a whole completely different aspect in its self. You play a role in the huge community by finding other people you are interested in, but it is not a game, you don't play a "fake" role, something you are not. When you are on MySpace you are yourself as in the real world, granted you could/can make fake profiles of something you are not, but this was not the reason it was built and how it is operated.


    Originally posted by Gwyneth
    Jokes beside, I admit that Second Life can be a MMORPG, if people want it to be one. It can be an opportunity for role-playing, even if only a tiny minority uses it that way. It can be a business model — after all, people develop content for the Web and call it "web design" and a business! — so, developing 3D design is a business as well. It can be all of the above at the same time, and people will endlessly disagree with what it is. This is, actually, Second Life's greatest strength: the ability to provide to each and every one of us with something that appeals to us — even if others disagree with "our" view on what SL "is".

    I agree with you here no doubt, lots of actual business use SL to provide extra income on the online community. There is money to be had and since this is a new break through in technology and shock it will still be a hugh success. As more and more "Virtual Lives" come out it will be less and less of a deal and people will start searching the real world again for their income. So yes you are right it can be a complete different label depending on what the user does with the software, a good example would be Entropia Universe, they officially call it a "Virtual World" and has the power and the backing to actual create a virtual economy that is mixed with the real world. Once again it all depends on the player of how this game is labeled.


    Originally posted by Gwyneth
    However, saying that Second Life is only a chatroom, or only a game/content development tool, or only a MMORPG, it's too limiting. It's all of that put together; each of us, depending on what we want to do with Second Life, will have a different way of using it. Or not. It's up to us :)

    Great point and well noted. =)

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  • GwynethGwyneth Member Posts: 66
    Originally posted by HashBrick


     
    MySpace is a whole completely different aspect in its self. You play a role in the huge community by finding other people you are interested in, but it is not a game, you don't play a "fake" role, something you are not. When you are on MySpace you are yourself as in the real world, granted you could/can make fake profiles of something you are not, but this was not the reason it was built and how it is operated.
     


    Hehe you know, HashBrick, I do agree with you, but if you replace the above paragraph with "Second Life", it describes what SL is so well:



    Second Life is a whole completely different aspect in its self. You play a role in the huge community by finding other people you are interested in, but it is not a game, you don't play a "fake" role, something you are not. When you are on Second Life you are yourself as in the real world, granted you could/can make fake profiles of something you are not, but this was not the reason it was built and how it is operated.



    See? It makes sense as well :) Also, I'm pretty sure that Linden Lab, when creating Second Life, was not thinking about having people with fake profiles there. The difference is that there are, indeed, some that have done so (perhaps many), but that was not "intended".



    Quoting LL's CEO, Philip "Linden" Rosedale: "I'm always surprised with what people make in Second Life". He's so right. It is being used for totally different purposes than the ones he intended... but he's glad :)

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