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The Official "We're Angry at SOE" thread

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182


    Originally posted by Sago

    Originally posted by Stradden


    The purpose of this thread is for you guys to vent your frustrations in one place. It does not mean that you can never say anything negative about SOE in the forums. My concern on that front is that it is being said over and over again, and the purpose of threads is being lost in the clutter. My concern is NOT that people are talking negatively about SOE. I personally don’t blame anyone who is angry over this issue. You have a valid gripe, and I understand that.

    While I would consider that to be a good exchange of ideas, and a good conversation. I walk away respecting his opinions and the religion as a whole. I would not have felt the same way if a moment later, another person had joined him, telling me the same things. Then another, then another. Suddenly, I have a whole group of people, all telling me about their ideas and feelings about something that I have already decided is not for me. They follow me to baggage claim, and all the way to my taxi when I leave the airport, relieved to be away from them.









    MMORPG.com is the airport in this situation. We’re trying to avoid people getting bombarded with the same information, again and again, from multiple sources. That’s all.

    That being said, things have also gotten severely out of hand in terms of a few people regularly breaking the rules. I will remind you that personal attacks against people who disagree with you will not be tolerated. Personal attacks, death threats and the like against developers from ANY company will not be tolerated. It all appears very clearly in our RoC, and the moderating team will be cracking down on such activities. You can hate the game, you can hate the company, but you cannot use our boards to promote the hatred of people.
    Cheers,
    Jon "Stradden" Wood, Community Manager

    Stradden I do understand what you are saying, however, the OVERWHELMING members of this community here is anti$OE and antiNGE. I mean think about it ... 500,000 SWG accounts in July '03 and what 30,000 +/- now leaves a hell of alot of people out there pissed off.

    When someone voices their feelings and/or their negative experieinces regarding $OE in this forum there is always a few that tell them that they don't know what they are talking about and so starts the flame wars. Thus, other will chime in on both sides ... BUT .... there is INFINITELY more anti$OE and antiNGE people here than pro people.

    Now this also works in reverse. People posting stuff like: "SWG is GREAT", "NGE is better than preCU", "the population is increasing", "The game is getting better. Just give it another 6 months" and stuff like that are lying thru their teeth. IF all these things were true then why the mass exodus from the game? Why are people STILL leaving the game? WHY are they HERE instead of playing the game that is so great?

    As far as people seeking help here .... in these forums???? Wrong place to ask for help. Most people here don't play anymore. The BEST place to seek help is in the Official SWG Forums as most of the current" players that KNOW how to answer their question can be found there.

    I would venture to say that the people that are pro$OE and proNGE are usually the people that start the flaming first. Not always .... just usually, probably due to frustration for being so outnumbered. Obraik is one of the few that really doesn't get into the personal attacks too much ... if at all. Because he doesn't, I have rarely seen him personally attacked by someone else (attacked = name calling and such. Having a differing opinion does not qualify as an "attack".) (Unless you are an $OE forum moderator ... sorry had to say it LOL)


    This such a false statement , There are three "SOE loyalists"  here I know of . Obraik , Elnator and Pirrg . Not one of them Goes into threads calling people idiots or morons for their opinions . WHich I know for a fact you do you have done it to me . There are a substanial amount of SOE haters here who constantly do such things .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • SagoSago Member Posts: 516



    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    Shh!!! Don't use logic , people may burst a few forehead veins .





    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    If that is the only reason you are here , I don't think MMORPG.com really cares to have your buisness .I know for sure I would not . 



    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    I just can't belive how so many of you feel you deserve special treatment . 



    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Here is an Idea , Create your own site and report on such things .



    Malick ... what in hell is your problem???? This is an "I hate $OE" thread. Why are you continually in here flamming people for anti$OE comments when this thread was established for that EXACT reason?

    I made a post that it is the pro$OE and proNGE'rs that are causing most the problems here. Thank you for making my point.

    Sago Mactow
    Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
    6/26/03 - 1/26/06
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  • bugzonlsdbugzonlsd Member Posts: 410

    ROFL hey look at this guys...our bitching and whining got us an officail thread lol

    Cool beans, so I guess that means if I or anyone else feels like saying SOE licks the redrocket" in here its ok?

    I dont have any objection to this thread, sounds like a plan :P

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182


    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by Wildcat84

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by Vexin

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    I just can't belive how so many of you feel you deserve special treatment . 


    We deserve the treatment for which we as customers pay.  Unlike other month-to-month services (like your Cable or water), an MMO is an investment of your time as well as your money.  Players have a vested interest in a game because of this.  SOE blantantly thumbed their nose at this investment and effectively destroyed it.  How can you not expect us to thumb our noses (in whatever form that might take) in return?


    You expect this site and its employees to jump on your crusade ? There are plenty of people who hate Blizzard , Ncsoft , CCP and many other developers . Do you see them here yelling for this site to write up an article about them ?



    Join the crusade?  No.

    But this purports to be a news site.  The fact that this much rage STILL exists after this much time, so bad that it even has fans of other upcoming MMO's up in arms just by ANY involvement by SOE with their product is a NEWS STORY.

    _ALL_ the anger at SOE comes from the CU and NGE debacles with SWG.  No one wants SOE involved with their MMO that they play because they don't want such things happening to THEM AND THEIR communities.

    In fact, the only people who play SOE MMO's who are happy are the EQ players.

    That again, is a news story.

    Indeed, the legacy of SWG is that there is already a built in base of MMO players out there who will automatically  reject the idea of playing a MMO just because of SOE involvement.

    Not only that, others who never played SWG, but who know someone who has/does, or who has seen one of the many mainstream news media stories about the unethical treatment of SWG players probably avoid SOE. 

    SOE's repuation for shitting on customers has probably hurt their subscription numbers in all theri games.

    Again, studying that, interviewing people, seeing if that is true or not (it most assuredly is) is a news story...




    Yes but opinions are not news , News is what this site does . If SWG has a change in place they will make an article about it . The same deal goes for darkand light , WHen they report on the game , They mention the disappointment of the fans thus far . But leave it at that . The second they go any further They jump from a news piece to an opinion piece .


    So what?  They (no just mmorpg.com) give plenty of voice to the companies, interviews, interviews, interviews.  If that's not company opinion, I don't know what is.
    Player opinion should also be included in articles and not just be left to the forum landscape.


    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/325/gameID/6

    Yes but when they interview it is for the fans , They try and get an idea of its progress and features . That is News in the gaming world that is all any magazine or site usually does .




    Thanks for that link, I hadn't seen it.  Unfortunatly, it's not clear whether he is writing with the NGE already in mind or not.  He mentions only the CU and I don't see NGE mentioned anywhere.  The date (November 23, 2005) is already post-NGE (Nov 15th accodring to wikipedia) so I presume it was already minding the NGE.

    Anyways, yes the interview is indeed for the fans.  However, the interviews are not just informative listings of facts.  They are companies' opinion mixed with the facts.   They state the changes/facts, and they state the companies' reasons for those changes/facts as well.  In other words, when SOE says there will be only 9 classes post NGE, it also states along with it that this is to make the game more iconic and more true to the SW experience.

    That is opinion, and it comes mixed in with the news.  Now, if a site keeps producing only interviews repeatedly pushing forth only the company's opinion, it becomes biased.  A site for the community must have both articles about the company's perspective, as well as the community's perspective.

    I don't think that adding brief and vague statements like "the fans are disappointed thus far" while allowing multiple lines of company perspective is fair.  That is not a site for the community, it's for the industry.
    That's all.


    I am pretty sure , That article is all about NGE ,though it doesn't mention it by name.

    Hey don't get me wrong , It would be nice to see a site like what you are seeking . But It is obvious (atleast to me ) why there isn't one so to speak . These writers need a positive appearence to the industry to get their work done . Now if they had an O'reilly so to speak , Do you think Devs would be willing to give those interviews ? I highly Doubt it .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182


    Originally posted by Sago





    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    I just can't belive how so many of you feel you deserve special treatment . 








    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    Here is an Idea , Create your own site and report on such things .




    Malick ... what in hell is your problem???? This is an "I hate $OE" thread. Why are you continually in here flamming people for anti$OE comments when this thread was established for that EXACT reason?

    I made a post that it is the pro$OE and proNGE'rs that are causing most the problems here. Thank you for making my point.


    I am not flaming anyone . I am saying stop crticizing MMOrpg For not being what you want  them to be . They have allowed you a place to speak your mind . Now that they are doing a little moderating of the activity on "their" forums people want to jump on them .

    I even put a smile to come across as non offensive . That post has nothing to do with SOE thank you .

    WHat point did you make ? I am not For or against sony . Therefor I am not included in your post .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • kefkahkefkah Member Posts: 832


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    This such a false statement , There are three "SOE loyalists"  here I know of . Obraik , Elnator and Pirrg . Not one of them Goes into threads calling people idiots or morons for their opinions . WHich I know for a fact you do you have done it to me . There are a substanial amount of SOE haters here who constantly do such things .


    Pirrg? The current rendition of pirrg* - I could agree with your statement on but before the recent? You may want to read up. But still, that inclusion makes your statment as false as well. :D

    *this is in no way asking for the return of the old pirrg. Just a statement from previous experience.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182


    Originally posted by kefkah

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    This such a false statement , There are three "SOE loyalists"  here I know of . Obraik , Elnator and Pirrg . Not one of them Goes into threads calling people idiots or morons for their opinions . WHich I know for a fact you do you have done it to me . There are a substanial amount of SOE haters here who constantly do such things .


    Pirrg? The current rendition of pirrg* - I could agree with your statement on but before the recent? You may want to read up. But still, that inclusion makes your statment as false as well. :D

    *this is in no way asking for the return of the old pirrg. Just a statement from previous experience.


    I have really only seen him say such to people who are flaming present subscibers . Which kinda makes it  a defensive move IMO .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • britocabritoca Member Posts: 1,484


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by Wildcat84

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by Vexin

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    I just can't belive how so many of you feel you deserve special treatment . 


    We deserve the treatment for which we as customers pay.  Unlike other month-to-month services (like your Cable or water), an MMO is an investment of your time as well as your money.  Players have a vested interest in a game because of this.  SOE blantantly thumbed their nose at this investment and effectively destroyed it.  How can you not expect us to thumb our noses (in whatever form that might take) in return?


    You expect this site and its employees to jump on your crusade ? There are plenty of people who hate Blizzard , Ncsoft , CCP and many other developers . Do you see them here yelling for this site to write up an article about them ?



    Join the crusade?  No.

    But this purports to be a news site.  The fact that this much rage STILL exists after this much time, so bad that it even has fans of other upcoming MMO's up in arms just by ANY involvement by SOE with their product is a NEWS STORY.

    _ALL_ the anger at SOE comes from the CU and NGE debacles with SWG.  No one wants SOE involved with their MMO that they play because they don't want such things happening to THEM AND THEIR communities.

    In fact, the only people who play SOE MMO's who are happy are the EQ players.

    That again, is a news story.

    Indeed, the legacy of SWG is that there is already a built in base of MMO players out there who will automatically  reject the idea of playing a MMO just because of SOE involvement.

    Not only that, others who never played SWG, but who know someone who has/does, or who has seen one of the many mainstream news media stories about the unethical treatment of SWG players probably avoid SOE. 

    SOE's repuation for shitting on customers has probably hurt their subscription numbers in all theri games.

    Again, studying that, interviewing people, seeing if that is true or not (it most assuredly is) is a news story...




    Yes but opinions are not news , News is what this site does . If SWG has a change in place they will make an article about it . The same deal goes for darkand light , WHen they report on the game , They mention the disappointment of the fans thus far . But leave it at that . The second they go any further They jump from a news piece to an opinion piece .


    So what?  They (no just mmorpg.com) give plenty of voice to the companies, interviews, interviews, interviews.  If that's not company opinion, I don't know what is.
    Player opinion should also be included in articles and not just be left to the forum landscape.


    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/325/gameID/6

    Yes but when they interview it is for the fans , They try and get an idea of its progress and features . That is News in the gaming world that is all any magazine or site usually does .




    Thanks for that link, I hadn't seen it.  Unfortunatly, it's not clear whether he is writing with the NGE already in mind or not.  He mentions only the CU and I don't see NGE mentioned anywhere.  The date (November 23, 2005) is already post-NGE (Nov 15th accodring to wikipedia) so I presume it was already minding the NGE.

    Anyways, yes the interview is indeed for the fans.  However, the interviews are not just informative listings of facts.  They are companies' opinion mixed with the facts.   They state the changes/facts, and they state the companies' reasons for those changes/facts as well.  In other words, when SOE says there will be only 9 classes post NGE, it also states along with it that this is to make the game more iconic and more true to the SW experience.

    That is opinion, and it comes mixed in with the news.  Now, if a site keeps producing only interviews repeatedly pushing forth only the company's opinion, it becomes biased.  A site for the community must have both articles about the company's perspective, as well as the community's perspective.

    I don't think that adding brief and vague statements like "the fans are disappointed thus far" while allowing multiple lines of company perspective is fair.  That is not a site for the community, it's for the industry.
    That's all.


    I am pretty sure , That article is all about NGE ,though it doesn't mention it by name.

    Hey don't get me wrong , It would be nice to see a site like what you are seeking . But It is obvious (atleast to me ) why there isn't one so to speak . These writers need a positive appearence to the industry to get their work done . Now if they had an O'reilly so to speak , Do you think Devs would be willing to give those interviews ? I highly Doubt it .



    I understand what you mean. It doesn't need to be an interview.  It can an editorial, updating, for the record, how the community is currently reacting to the most controversial decision ever taken in mmo history after 6 months after its inplementation.  That's worthy of following imo. It could have some relevant quotes from the forums.

    I also wanted to see how narrow I could get those first quotations to be, haha looks like I got them down to single words/line

    -virtual tourist
    want your game back?
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  • kefkahkefkah Member Posts: 832

    Personally been on the recieving end of a few hit and runs back a few months ago. Wasn't flaming anyone at the time. But still, that is my experience which is different from your observations and I don't feel right talking about him with him not being here to defend himself - let alone that he has adopted a somewhat kinder gentler approach as of late.

    Next post, please.

  • britocabritoca Member Posts: 1,484


    Originally posted by kefkah

    Personally been on the recieving end of a few hit and runs back a few months ago. Wasn't flaming anyone at the time. But still, that is my experience which is different from your observations and I don't feel right talking about him with him not being here to defend himself - let alone that he has adopted a somewhat kinder gentler approach as of late.
    Next post, please.


    Yeah, let's leave individuals apart from this thread.   It's too important for such bickering imo.

    It's about SOE and how they substituted a mmo for another.

    -virtual tourist
    want your game back?
    image

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182


    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by Wildcat84

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by Vexin

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    I just can't belive how so many of you feel you deserve special treatment . 


    We deserve the treatment for which we as customers pay.  Unlike other month-to-month services (like your Cable or water), an MMO is an investment of your time as well as your money.  Players have a vested interest in a game because of this.  SOE blantantly thumbed their nose at this investment and effectively destroyed it.  How can you not expect us to thumb our noses (in whatever form that might take) in return?


    You expect this site and its employees to jump on your crusade ? There are plenty of people who hate Blizzard , Ncsoft , CCP and many other developers . Do you see them here yelling for this site to write up an article about them ?



    Join the crusade?  No.

    But this purports to be a news site.  The fact that this much rage STILL exists after this much time, so bad that it even has fans of other upcoming MMO's up in arms just by ANY involvement by SOE with their product is a NEWS STORY.

    _ALL_ the anger at SOE comes from the CU and NGE debacles with SWG.  No one wants SOE involved with their MMO that they play because they don't want such things happening to THEM AND THEIR communities.

    In fact, the only people who play SOE MMO's who are happy are the EQ players.

    That again, is a news story.

    Indeed, the legacy of SWG is that there is already a built in base of MMO players out there who will automatically  reject the idea of playing a MMO just because of SOE involvement.

    Not only that, others who never played SWG, but who know someone who has/does, or who has seen one of the many mainstream news media stories about the unethical treatment of SWG players probably avoid SOE. 

    SOE's repuation for shitting on customers has probably hurt their subscription numbers in all theri games.

    Again, studying that, interviewing people, seeing if that is true or not (it most assuredly is) is a news story...




    Yes but opinions are not news , News is what this site does . If SWG has a change in place they will make an article about it . The same deal goes for darkand light , WHen they report on the game , They mention the disappointment of the fans thus far . But leave it at that . The second they go any further They jump from a news piece to an opinion piece .


    So what?  They (no just mmorpg.com) give plenty of voice to the companies, interviews, interviews, interviews.  If that's not company opinion, I don't know what is.
    Player opinion should also be included in articles and not just be left to the forum landscape.


    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/325/gameID/6

    Yes but when they interview it is for the fans , They try and get an idea of its progress and features . That is News in the gaming world that is all any magazine or site usually does .




    Thanks for that link, I hadn't seen it.  Unfortunatly, it's not clear whether he is writing with the NGE already in mind or not.  He mentions only the CU and I don't see NGE mentioned anywhere.  The date (November 23, 2005) is already post-NGE (Nov 15th accodring to wikipedia) so I presume it was already minding the NGE.

    Anyways, yes the interview is indeed for the fans.  However, the interviews are not just informative listings of facts.  They are companies' opinion mixed with the facts.   They state the changes/facts, and they state the companies' reasons for those changes/facts as well.  In other words, when SOE says there will be only 9 classes post NGE, it also states along with it that this is to make the game more iconic and more true to the SW experience.

    That is opinion, and it comes mixed in with the news.  Now, if a site keeps producing only interviews repeatedly pushing forth only the company's opinion, it becomes biased.  A site for the community must have both articles about the company's perspective, as well as the community's perspective.

    I don't think that adding brief and vague statements like "the fans are disappointed thus far" while allowing multiple lines of company perspective is fair.  That is not a site for the community, it's for the industry.
    That's all.


    I am pretty sure , That article is all about NGE ,though it doesn't mention it by name.

    Hey don't get me wrong , It would be nice to see a site like what you are seeking . But It is obvious (atleast to me ) why there isn't one so to speak . These writers need a positive appearence to the industry to get their work done . Now if they had an O'reilly so to speak , Do you think Devs would be willing to give those interviews ? I highly Doubt it .



    I understand what you mean. It doesn't need to be an interview.  It can an editorial, updating, for the record, how the community is currently reacting to the most controversial decision ever taken in mmo history after 6 months after its inplementation.  That's worthy of following imo. It could have some relevant quotes from the forums.

    I also wanted to see how narrow I could get those first quotations to be, haha looks like I got them down to single words/line


    I love forum trees LOL

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • LilTLilT Member Posts: 631
    Guys, no more complaining about this thread! lol Its a very good thing, its the first thing anyone will see when they come to the swg forums. I think the mods did us a big favor. IMo it encourages free speech about soe because it is putting our grievences and negative opinions of soe in the spotlight. What more could you ask for?

    (besides a hard hitting article about soe and the nge)

    but anyways. Yes, thanks for this sticky.


    oh yeah, i hate SOE!


    For the Horde!

  • Tesla2338Tesla2338 Member Posts: 1
    This game used to be awesome, but now its horrible.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182


    Originally posted by Tesla2338
    This game used to be awesome, but now its horrible.

    Straight to the point I like that

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • johnyspiperjohnyspiper Member Posts: 77



    Sony you deserve this for screwing up alot of good game
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182


    Originally posted by johnyspiper


    Sony you deserve this :


    ?

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • MacroPlanetMacroPlanet Member UncommonPosts: 1,084
    Oh my god...I have never seen a group of so many little babies and whinning in my life.  And I thought us UO players had it bad. 

    Just move on guys, that's what the UO players did.


  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by MaeEye
    Oh my god...I have never seen a group of so many little babies and whinning in my life.  And I thought us UO players had it bad. 

    Just move on guys, that's what the UO players did.




    Yes you did.. you were on the vanguard forums. They were whining all about how $OE would NEVER RUIN THEIR GAME!!!!

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
    Proud member of the Cabal.
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    imageimage
    It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
    I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,182


    Originally posted by MaeEye
    Oh my god...I have never seen a group of so many little babies and whinning in my life.  And I thought us UO players had it bad. 

    Just move on guys, that's what the UO players did.




    You have moved on HUh? Then why even mention the game twice .  If you have moved on how is it even an issue to you ? I say you move on if what you read ,  makes you feel you must insult .

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • DanaDana Member Posts: 2,415


    Originally posted by britoca

    Originally posted by Malickiebloo
    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/325/gameID/6

    Yes but when they interview it is for the fans , They try and get an idea of its progress and features . That is News in the gaming world that is all any magazine or site usually does .



    Thanks for that link, I hadn't seen it.  Unfortunatly, it's not clear whether he is writing with the NGE already in mind or not.  He mentions only the CU and I don't see NGE mentioned anywhere.  The date (November 23, 2005) is already post-NGE (Nov 15th accodring to wikipedia) so I presume it was already minding the NGE.

    Anyways, yes the interview is indeed for the fans.  However, the interviews are not just informative listings of facts.  They are companies' opinion mixed with the facts.   They state the changes/facts, and they state the companies' reasons for those changes/facts as well.  In other words, when SOE says there will be only 9 classes post NGE, it also states along with it that this is to make the game more iconic and more true to the SW experience.

    That is opinion, and it comes mixed in with the news.  Now, if a site keeps producing only interviews repeatedly pushing forth only the company's opinion, it becomes biased.  A site for the community must have both articles about the company's perspective, as well as the community's perspective.

    I don't think that adding brief and vague statements like "the fans are disappointed thus far" while allowing multiple lines of company perspective is fair.  That is not a site for the community, it's for the industry.
    That's all.


    Guys,

    We ran that editorial on the same day as a brief interview with Casey Keefe on the NGE (http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/324/gameID/6) and our review of the NGE on its own merits (http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/reviews/loadReview/26/gameID/6).

    It is most definitely about the NGE.

    The core point is, we covered the story, we came out with a clear stance and made it public at the time. I think we covered it very well. If we kept covering the story to the point you guys suggest, only anti-SOE fans would still visit the site.

    Is your story unworthy of attention? No. Will we ever do a follow-up story? Maybe. But both these questions are beside the point.

    This thread was created to try and funnel some of the poison off the boards. You're free to warn people all you want, all we want is that you stop hijacking semi-related or unrelated threads and cluttering the boards wiht the same message over and over. All this thread is for is when someone feels the need to make a random rant against SOE as a result of what they did.

    Dana Massey
    Formerly of MMORPG.com
    Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios

  • duggoduggo Member Posts: 387


    Originally posted by Malickiebloo

    Originally posted by johnyspiper
    Sony you deserve this :
    ?


    "Working as intended."  Move along.  Move along.



    Originally posted by MaeEye
    Oh my god...I have never seen a group of so many little babies and whinning in my life.  And I thought us UO players had it bad. 

    Just move on guys, that's what the UO players did.


    Hey, don't hijack this thread, save it for the "Official 'We're Angry at the Pre-CU whiners' Thread" sticky.

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  • bugzonlsdbugzonlsd Member Posts: 410


    Originally posted by Shayde

    Originally posted by MaeEye
    Oh my god...I have never seen a group of so many little babies and whinning in my life.  And I thought us UO players had it bad. 

    Just move on guys, that's what the UO players did.

    Yes you did.. you were on the vanguard forums. They were whining all about how $OE would NEVER RUIN THEIR GAME!!!!



    yea what SHAYDE said! and...lots of the people who played SWG actually were people who moved on to it FROM uo buddy. So PfFfFfFfffFT :P
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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378


    Originally posted by kaibigan34
    I can understand if someone asks about the game and then is chased out because they sound interested. But if someone asks about the game and people post only their opinions about the game I cant see that as bad. Afterall the guy asked.

    And on the forgive and forget tip. If a woman forgives a rapist or a parent forgiving the murderer of their child I am willing to bet the criminal is in jail facing punishment at the time. And the person usually apologized as well. SOE has not been punished nor have they apologized for what they did and are still doing.

    Its not about a mistake or a few mistakes. Its about continious mistakes, lies, and ignoring the wants and desires of the community at large. If McDonalds put out the McRib then the HU (Hamburger Upgrade) McRib because of the failed first attempt and then the NSE (New Sandwich Enhancement) McRib it would be a valid point. But they didnt. Those companies made a mistake but they corrected them. SOE on the other hand screwed up and continues to screw up with each publish.

    I dont blame anyone for a mistake. But I do expect them to correct them. Something SOE refuses to do. Because there is only two things they can do to correct it and they refuse to even try. In fact the only thing they do is cover them up with lies and media spin. How can I say "Oh well its the past SOE. Your forgiven. Correct it and lets move on." when they refuse to correct it and continue making the same mistakes over and over?

    Kai


    LOL @ HU and NSE :) Thanks, that really got me laughing. Ok well I'm on your side then I guess. I think SOE in some form should be punished for pulling the NGE out of the hat in the way they did. Maybe then everyone could have the emotional space to forgive them. Even though I rather liked it, I think some form of retribution would be in order. I think Sony should be forced by a court of law to maintain at least one Pre-NGE server, even if no new content was written. The poor souls who ground (use?) Jedi all those hours and days and months do have a genuine case for willful infliction of emotional distress. Same as all those people who wasted their lives trying to unlock the froglok race in EQ2 when it was impossible, if indeed that rumour is true.

    Until Sony admits their wrongdoing I am not going to bitch about people bitching anymore, except when it comes to Vanguard. Sony will have absolutely nothing to do with the development of said game and therefore doesn't deserve the constant haranguing of upset former SOE customers.

    Thanks for responding in such a mature manner Kai. You're good peeps.

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  • bugzonlsdbugzonlsd Member Posts: 410

    lol look at this

    http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=tradereng&message.id=11043

    cl 2 ENGINEER solos rancor lair :P

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