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Originally posted by Grindalyx Dude chill out, i read the article and yes i do remember them saying that now. So i made a mistake. I do keep up on the game and i do alot of other things also so i don't always remember everything i am human. Also i don't attack you or anyone else in here so don't attack me. I try to have a civil discussion about things, sometimes i get a little hot under the collar but i don't personally attack people. I also admit when i am wrong and this is one of the times.
Sorry. Im just in a big Turbine hate fest right now.
I didnt mean anything personally.
Originally posted by SendenWell Turbine screwed up with DDO and from what I can tell with this game, this will be another big flop but probably more low key than DDO has a lot of people will stay away originally. Sadly though, this game had so much potential back when the old developers were doing it and it just seemed like a great overall game but now.. i'm not so sure. What does everyone else think?
I agree with the OP. Originally, when it was Middle Earth Online, it had some interesting features in the works. Now it has become something entirely different, and I'm not sure I will like it. It's a shame.
My biggest problem with it is this: Turbine seems to have taken away our chance to be a unique character in Middle Earth. Sort of how Star Wars Galaxies (the original) let us become whoever we wanted in the Star Wars Universe, I was hoping that we could do the same in Middle Earth.
Now, it seems that we will all be doing the same thing, on the same quest tracks, following along like mindless sheep. It may still be a fun game, I don't know, but it has definitely changed course from what I was looking for it to be.
What the heck? I thought this double post glitch was fixed?
Originally posted by Broughden Originally posted by Grindalyx Dude chill out, i read the article and yes i do remember them saying that now. So i made a mistake. I do keep up on the game and i do alot of other things also so i don't always remember everything i am human. Also i don't attack you or anyone else in here so don't attack me. I try to have a civil discussion about things, sometimes i get a little hot under the collar but i don't personally attack people. I also admit when i am wrong and this is one of the times.
Originally posted by Gameloading You people DO realise this game is comming from a diffrent development team then D&DO and the Asherons call series? the graphics look VERY good, the features listed looks nice, and it seems the developers are trying to stay loyal to the story line as much as possible. other then that, you haven't seen anything yet, so how can you already predict its going to fail?
A) Its all the same company with the same executives wielding influence over the development direction at the top.
How can I predict this game is going to fail? Easy. They JUST entered pre-alpha testing. They have PUBLICLY stated they are shooting for a November release in order to cash in on Christmas sales. Leaving them 6-7 months to do alpha testing, beta testing and then change any problems found in game during those testing cycles. Does that sound like a company committed to quality to you?
Not enough testing/fixing time = Just another bug filled MMO.
With Conan and Vanguard and NWN2 all coming out in the same time frame they should not take the risk of releasing a buggy title. But they dont seem to care as long as they can get that phat Christmas cash.
In my opinion....
The success of this game should be a no brainer. As long as it is not being developed by SOE I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. I truly love LOTR and with that much backstory for the game readily available to the developers they would have to be complete morons **cough SOE** to screw this up.
I honestly feel that If they took the original EQ engine and slapped some updated graphics on it people would play this game. We really just want to feel immersed in the world of middle earth and to see familliar faces and locations while hunting mobs and running dungeons. Lets face it, that was the real draw of EQ from the very beginning.
It would be wise if the developers of this game would adhere to the K.I.S.S philosophy
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
Originally posted by BroughdenOriginally posted by Gameloading You people DO realise this game is comming from a diffrent development team then D&DO and the Asherons call series? the graphics look VERY good, the features listed looks nice, and it seems the developers are trying to stay loyal to the story line as much as possible. other then that, you haven't seen anything yet, so how can you already predict its going to fail?
A) Its all the same company with the same executives wielding influence over the development direction at the top.
Fact remains the people over at D&DO will have nothing to do with Lotro.
I will never judge a game on beta length. we don't know how much Lotro will have tested theirself. neither do we know how many people are on the development team. with a big team and a lot of testing, I really don't see a reason why it shouldn't be possible in 6-7 months. besides, even then. all that will remain are a couple of bugs, unless they are major bugs, its hardly something to judge a game on.
MEO was actually dated at one time to release christmas 2004. If they wanted the christmas cash, they would have released the game 2 christmases ago.
People who say that they don't like Turbine, probably didn't give their games much of a chance, or are just basing it on rumor. I personally am still a player of AC ever since the beta in 1999! I played AC2 from release to about a year later, but went back to AC. I played DDO beta, but decided that the game just wasn't my style. Now, let me break down my experiences with Turbine games so far...
AC is Turbine's greatest achievement. It had a good launch, and even to this day has a loyal, diehard playerbase. Most of my friends never heard of the game, but when I let them try it out, they love it. If judged purely on gameplay, features, and content (not popularity), then AC can be considered one of the best mmorpgs ever made. I personally think it is. Turbine has improved the game over the years with monthly patches, and all these improvements have added up. I play for the monthly patches. If they didn't exist, I wouldn't be playing.
AC2 is one of the poorest releases of all mmorpgs. It ranks right up there with Horizons and AO. Bugs, bugs, bugs, class imblances, broken classes, not able to help rebuild the world (as stated on the box). Some bugs helped people level to 50 in the first 2 weeks of the game. I remember people making some of the strongest monsters in the game freeze up so that they can be easily killed. People put up with the bugs decently, but Turbine came out with the nerf bats over the first 6 months of release. Classes that were overpowered at release were turned into complete garbage. Meanwhile, the broken classes were ignored. People really grew to hate patch day in that first year. Some patches even brought in more bugs than they fixed. I remember on the forums players begging the devs to roll the game back and skip that month's patch. It wasn't just the release that ruined AC2, it was the nerfing. The game was actually really good when Legions came out, but I guess too many players had sour memories of nerfs and bugs.
DDO is basically a lukewarm release. It's not the disaster that AC2 was, but it's a very niche game. It just isn't for as wide of an audience as WoW is for example.
The summary about Turbine is that they had their ups and downs, but they can make a great game. AC2 was messed up because Microsoft was in charge, and they wanted to rush the game out the door long before it was ready. Like I said, after 3 years of patches and a good expansion pack, AC2 turned into a good game. They just couldn't get the sales they needed. We should assume that LOTRO will not be a repeat of AC2 because they are working on the game for a much longer time. You can't just say that the game will suck because of no pvp or weak magic. At least wait for a beta or even a preview from a website.
Ask Boromir if I intend to try this game?
Boromir says: "Nah, Ano lack and is grouping in some lame game that reward soloers, can you see how lacking Ano is? Unable to realize just how lame solo is..."
I don't care for solo haters and raid enforcer...and guess what, those devs are both!
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Originally posted by bluntedNo matter how bad the game is people will buy it because it bears the LotR title.
AFAIK the tiniest book/collectible/game released with a "LOTR" tag on it has been approved by those who own the rights to the license, and I highly doubt they'll let a half finished (or crap) game reach the shelves.
Maybe Turbine has not always made everything right but this time you can be sure there are a bunch of people behind them 24/7 who are watching each of their moves.
I think I'll buy LOTRO, not because I trust Turbine, I don't know them enough to judge them, but because I trust the LOTR license owners.
Originally posted by anarchyart I think that this is just a big troll thread and people who are saying this game will flop when it's not even in beta are the biggest pieces of crap on this site. Get a ****ing life you friggin hermits. Go into off topic and talk about how much it sucks to live in your parents garage, at least it's something you have a damn clue about./rant
For one.. i hate this game.. it hasnt come out and i hate it.. i hate Turbine..i hate Code masters. neither company has produced anything worth a damn in a very long while. There is no being on the evil side which is retarded... if turbine was really trying to "go after wow" which is a JOKE, they would have made it where you could be on the evil side.and made it more pvp, thats how you go after wow..cause most of wow's players want PVP content.. the idea of being good or evil in the LOTR world..is an amazing idea..it would have been so fun.. wars in middle earth...could have been somethign to play..indstead its going to be a quest fest which people are sick of cause of wow, on top of that..if turbine thinks they can compete with blizzard on any level..they are sadly mistaken... AC was their game..they ruined it with AC2.. and havent done anything good since.... its not stupid to assume this game will suck... its a given at this point...
also.. im 18 and live on my own..i have many nice things and i pay for them all..i have a great job making enough money to support my own family if i ever do need to do that...so please dont sit there and bash on us "living in our parents basements"...it makes you look like an idiot.
- No raiding at release but a promise to add it: LOL, not only are they making sure peoples like me won't play the game, but raiders are unlikely to play for "future" promises.
- Soloers are lames, ask boromir. Not home of the soloers.
- Class are "similars", grouping suffer...grouping deserve wide variety, clear roles.
I dunno why someone would try to trash the game any further, unless they love to trash for the pleasure of it.
Originally posted by AnofalyeWell...- No raiding at release but a promise to add it: LOL, not only are they making sure peoples like me won't play the game, but raiders are unlikely to play for "future" promises.- Soloers are lames, ask boromir. Not home of the soloers.- Class are "similars", grouping suffer...grouping deserve wide variety, clear roles.I dunno why someone would try to trash the game any further, unless they love to trash for the pleasure of it.