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Question regarding the "grind" in this game.
Bahk
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I did see the faq but I would like a little more indepth detail to this answere if you can. Is this game going to be one of those get to the lvl cap in one month? I would really like to see a hard grind( 8-12 months to hit the cap, playing alot.), also is it geared towards solo play/lvl like wow? I sure as hell hope not.. i want a nice mmo that you can pretty much only lvl with a group.. or having a group is an extreme advantage. Anyway if you could answere this for me that would be wonderfull thanks 
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Intended speed is irrelevant to truly hardcore players. They will ALWAYS find a way to level faster than your expectations. They will not sleep, share logins, have one person grind for another five who are afk, multi-box, and otherwise break down all conventions for how you have designed the rate of advancement.
The only game I've ever seen in which this is not the case is EVE, as everything there is time based, and even the most hardcore gamer is unable to warp the laws of space-time.
That said, you will not be expected to reach the level cap in an exceedingly short period of time. The design of the game anticipates that the contect will generally take a certain period to play out to max level, and that people will then be busy for another specified time working on high-level gameplay. Once that first cycle is complete, there will be another period of exploration and content before the next high-level gameplay segment.
It has to be experienced to be understood, but the world expands regularly, and with it the cycle continues indefinitely.
sry double post
Thanks for the reply, I guess it really just depends on the person.. I actaully enjoy a LONG grind to the lvl cap because I simply love grouping/fighting all the time and its pretty much all I do, I think its rewarding playing in a "hardcore aspect" 5+ hours a day lvling NOT to be the first to hit the cap.. but simply doing it because you ENJOY doing it and feel rewarded making the lvls. Also I like a long grind because it feels rewarding acheiving somthing thats pretty tough and tedius like the "linage 2 grind".
What's the difference then between grinding 9 characters to level 60 in WoW and one to level 75 in Lineage 2? You're grouping, you're advancing, you're grinding. It's all the same and it's all boring in my opinion. Level based systems can't not help but feel like a grind.
The grind is only really noticable when you are forced to fight in the same place, on the same mobs, day in and day out, killing 5-10 of them before you can even see your exp bar move. As long as you have various places to go, and a good quest system to play with, that can really bring you into the overall story and makes you feel as though you are acomplishing something, you will never notice the grind.
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Heh, have you tried Final Fantasy XI? Sounds like it would be right up your alley. After >110 days of playtime, my highest job was level 61/75 and my highest crafting level was 61/100. And if you manage to run out of levels to grind, you can grind dynamis for uber weapons like excalibur. And in between that, you can grind for gil (money). And if that's not enough, you can change jobs at any time and there are currently 15 jobs to level up and soon to be 2-4 more. Also, by the time you reach level 20 (which is a tiny fraction of the game), grouping in well coordinated full parties of 6 is almost mandatory for leveling. It was fun, but I've had enough grind for quite a while. If grind is what you are looking for though, it delivers (along with some other stuff).
Heh, have you tried Final Fantasy XI? Sounds like it would be right up your alley. After >110 days of playtime, my highest job was level 61/75 and my highest crafting level was 61/100. And if you manage to run out of levels to grind, you can grind dynamis for uber weapons like excalibur. And in between that, you can grind for gil (money). And if that's not enough, you can change jobs at any time and there are currently 15 jobs to level up and soon to be 2-4 more. Also, by the time you reach level 20 (which is a tiny fraction of the game), grouping in well coordinated full parties of 6 is almost mandatory for leveling. It was fun, but I've had enough grind for quite a while. If grind is what you are looking for though, it delivers (along with some other stuff).
Cool, is the game instanced?
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Bah, seems like a nice game, there will always be some grinding in all mmorpg's ( More or less ;> )
Originally posted by Bahk
I did see the faq but I would like a little more indepth detail to this answere if you can. Is this game going to be one of those get to the lvl cap in one month? I would really like to see a hard grind( 8-12 months to hit the cap, playing alot.), also is it geared towards solo play/lvl like wow? I sure as hell hope not.. i want a nice mmo that you can pretty much only lvl with a group.. or having a group is an extreme advantage. Anyway if you could answere this for me that would be wonderfull thanks
FFXI def. sounds like the game for you. It was my first MMORPG. I thought all were like it. Mandatory 6 people to party. Mandatory to party if you want to advance. I went to WOW and was in heaven, but i realised it was just because it was easy. I hope Spellborn will be more of a grouping game, however easier to find a party than how it was in FFXI. I dont mind the grind, in fact i love the satisfaction i get from lvling. But i hate the enternity sometimes spent in LFG.
i like the kind of grinding in this game.
looks kinda funny and not as boring as in wow.
It seems to me that Spellborn won't have much of a grind in the tradional sense. Firstly, monsters don't give leveling xp. Quests do. I suppose you could call doing the quests grinding, but as long as they're fun and there is enough of them to avoid repetition, they shouldn't seem like a grind. Also, given the action-like combat fighting monsters should (of course I haven't played it yet) feel more like hacking your way through a level in Jedi Knight than a FFXI or L2 grind-o-rama.
There will be no XP for killing mobs, only for completing quests... So I think that if the spell comes out the first players will be 50 (lvl cap) in around 2 months...