Cats and Dogs used as Shark bait

moonfog

This is horrid news! Some of you might have read about it or seen it on the news. Do something and sign the petition!

 

http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/RSPCARedirect&pg=sharkbait

 

I cant belive some people. I would like to take that hook and put it through there foreskin and pull them after a boat!

Rikimaru_X

Now that is the most crueliest thing I ever herd of. Now I have a question, this is not illegal in the french goverment is it?

moonfog

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Originally posted by Rikimaru_X
Now that is the most crueliest thing I ever herd of. Now I have a question, this is not illegal in the french goverment is it?

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Im not sure. I did some searching but did not find any facts about it. But it seems the law does not say using live bait is illegal, but the thing people are reacting to is what they are using.

But I could be wrong. Have not found anything on the matter, the news on the story is pretty vague.

Umbrood

The only horrid news here is that people, in this day and age and on the net, fall for these cams.

Just look at that picture, now honestly, do you think that there is even a one in a TRILLION chance to catch a shark with that dog as bait?

Not saying this story couldnt be true, cause it could, but it is NOT damnit, its like that old jar-kitten thing that was around a few years back, I could understand why people fell for that back then cause the internet was kinda new, but believeing this thing is just bloody stupid.

Wakizashi

that does seem just too extreme to be real.  Any fisherman knows that you chum for sharks.  It probably works much better than the old hook a dog or cat and let them struggle in the water.  I dont know for sure, but chumming produces more blood in the water than a dog or cat ever could.

moonfog

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Originally posted by Umbrood
The only horrid news here is that people, in this day and age and on the net, fall for these cams.
Just look at that picture, now honestly, do you think that there is even a one in a TRILLION chance to catch a shark with that dog as bait?
Not saying this story couldnt be true, cause it could, but it is NOT damnit, its like that old jar-kitten thing that was around a few years back, I could understand why people fell for that back then cause the internet was kinda new, but believeing this thing is just bloody stupid.

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Dude it is real. Here in we even had a segment on the news with video footage showing it. Also the newspapers had on the matter.

Dekron

Well.....talk about catfish.

Wakizashi

HIIIOOOOOOO!

 

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Zhanghia

Ugh.. if that stuff is real.. humanity has already lost its mind. How can you lose your conscience with stuff like that? That's a blatant disregard for life in general, now I'm not one to speak being a omnivore and all that but at least they're killed in a humane way and they live a half-way decent life.. this is beyond disgusting.

Umbrood

I still say it is a lie, at most it is creat by them crazy friggin animal rights people who I have no doubt would pierce a dog like that to get some coverage.

Fact is that they found that stray dog with that hook in its noose and jumped to the conclusion that it had escaped a fishing boat, as if that is the only way a dog can hurt itself.

Had it been real and a shark grabbed that dog that hook would NOT hold, or rather that dog noose wouldnt, id imagine they are actually trying to catch sharks and they are not gonna with that dog.

I am not saying that there arent people who would do something like that cause I am sure there are and even that it happens, but that story is just not true.

Quite a torough search turns up very little besides a few petitions to the french government from the Birgitte Bardot foundation as well as a couple loony organisations.

No news service anywere have picked this up, aside from that french one, and considering the really stupid stuff some news channels sometimes sprout this one most REALLY not be true.

They show no sources wich 99 times out of a 100 means there are none. 

disstress

There are much more effective ways to catch sharks. The storage alone would make using stray domesticated animals as bait unreasonable.

Darktania

 Yeah I agree that this looks a bit fishy (pardon the pun). For starters I've learned the hard way about trusting some of these protest groups. Also even if it was true using cats and dogs as bait is a rather inefficient way of catching sharks. Chum is so much cheaper and with all the blood it's more effective.

Rufius

I found this;

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Animals_and_Nature/Question147152.html

not sure if it helps though.

Umbrood

http://www.30millionsdamis.fr/FR/Dossiers/NosPetitions/Contrelutilisationdechiensvivantscommeappatspourlapecheauxrequins/Contrelutilisationdechienserrantscommeappatspourlapecheauxrequins.asp

This is were it all started, I do not understand french as I said so, not only is it extremely unbelievable the few places it is shown all ask for money

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Sporn

I have a real problem with dogs and cats being used to catch sharks.  Especially when these animals would be much better as giant python bait.  Seriously I would rather see murderers and rapists used as bait before any cat or dog. 

That picture looks fake to me also looks like some kinda peta propaganda.  I have a hard time beliving they wouldnt just eat the dog or cat instead of using them as bait.

disstress

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Originally posted by Betrayal-X
I found this;
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Animals_and_Nature/Question147152.html
not sure if it helps though.

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lol, those people are morons

Even if they did this (which noone would, its just stupid and inefficent, unless as a sport...) who cares about the dogs, what about the poor sharks? I mean, have you ever eaten a dog? That is just nasty, we should be more tolerant of the shark's diet, it is a meat eater and should be respected as such. Anyone who believes that sharks aren't people too, needs to be fixed and thrown in the pound.

Rufius

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Originally posted by disstress




Originally posted by Betrayal-X
I found this;
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Animals_and_Nature/Question147152.html
not sure if it helps though.

lol, those people are morons

Even if they did this (which noone would, its just stupid and inefficent, unless as a sport...) who cares about the dogs, what about the poor sharks? I mean, have you ever eaten a dog? That is just nasty, we should be more tolerant of the shark's diet, it is a meat eater and should be respected as such. Anyone who believes that sharks aren't people too, needs to be fixed and thrown in the pound.

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=save+the+sharks

Darktania

  If you think about it wouldnt it be more effective to chop the dogs and cats up into bloody Chum? I mean sharks smell blood from across great distances. Just tossing a dog into the water wont accomplish anything. That is unless the shark is already there. Yeah I smell propaganda.

Orcc

The hook's real, its in the video. But, like the one guy said on the one message board (linked to previously) using them as bait is completly impractical if not impossible:

"We are shown lots of stay animals and then a dog with a hook though it's upper lips. While it is a vile thing that somebody has done to this dog I cannot see how in any way somebody could then use this animal alive for shark fishing. Were the animal towed behind a boat it would pull the hook through its lip leaving it to swim about. If it were thrown off the boat to swim about and it were to be taken by a shark again the lips would be ripped, leaving an empty hook and no shark. Nope, this whole thing stinks worse than a week old shark mixed with wet dog, I sense a set up. I will poke about still further but so far I have seen absolutely no coroboration of this seemingly ludicrous story."

Not only that, a shark swallowing a dog that size whole while being possible, isnt likely. Also the chance of the hook actually then catching in the sharks mouth is near impossible.

I think its all a bunch of crap made up to make something out to be worse than it really is.

Doomsayer

Well I got my suspicions that this is a bunch of BS. But humankind has done alot worse in the past so it could be true. And I agree it would be impractical.

I suggest as punishment for whomever is doing this, that they also be pierced through the nose and dragged behind a boat as shark bait. I'd pay money to watch that.

Umbrood

Furthermore, sharks are highly specialized killers, a gazillion years of evolution have made them VERY good at what they do, and cats and dogs are NOT part of their prey, even if bleeding, a shark is just very unliekely to hook onto an animal that is not part of their usual prey, even if they had left the animals bleeding.

Anyone hunting sharks would know this, youd imagine an animal organisation would to, wich they probably do THEY all know this just is not true, it is called propaganda.

Sharks just do not attack anything.

As a reference 15, yes fiteen, people are killed in shark attacks world wide each year, 150 are killed by falling coconuts.

disstress

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Originally posted by Umbrood
Furthermore, sharks are highly specialized killers, a gazillion years of evolution have made them VERY good at what they do, and cats and dogs are NOT part of their prey, even if bleeding, a shark is just very unliekely to hook onto an animal that is not part of their usual prey, even if they had left the animals bleeding.
Anyone hunting sharks would know this, youd imagine an animal organisation would to, wich they probably do THEY all know this just is not true, it is called propaganda.
Sharks just do not attack anything.
As a reference 15, yes fiteen, people are killed in shark attacks world wide each year, 150 are killed by falling coconuts.

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Coconuts are people too dammit! Noone seems to be concerned about the coconuts being damaged from hitting the heads of unsuspecting humans. What is with all the insensitivity to sharks and coconuts? What kind of world do we live in? This day and age should have taught us tolerance for other beings ways of life. Are the existances of these wondorus beings reduced to simply entertainment and food?

Phoenixs

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Originally posted by Umbrood
The only horrid news here is that people, in this day and age and on the net, fall for these cams.
Just look at that picture, now honestly, do you think that there is even a one in a TRILLION chance to catch a shark with that dog as bait?
Not saying this story couldnt be true, cause it could, but it is NOT damnit, its like that old jar-kitten thing that was around a few years back, I could understand why people fell for that back then cause the internet was kinda new, but believeing this thing is just bloody stupid.

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Dude what is wrong with you? You remind me of the people that believe holocaust never happened. Just because it's so cruel, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I don't understand why you think that it's more likely that a animal rights organization tortures animals than people that really do it. Why should they do this propaganda? They hate poor fishermen so much that they have to get the whole world to punish them? It's just stupid to say that this is propaganda. Propaganda is used to "target" something. There is no target here.

This story is true. Remember these are poor fishermen that don't have the money to get huge chunks of meat as bait. These animals are free for them to capture. If it works for fishing sharks? Yes. The fishermen travel to reefs and places where they know the shark is. Then they throw small meat bits and stuff into the water to get the shark to the area around the boat. Then the animals with the hooks are dropped into the water. I think it's much more likely that a sharks bites on a hook with something that moves than a lifeless piece of meat.

AshenHand

This is a fake story that all started from a Peta attempt at drawing in supporters. The dog got accidentaly hooked (by his own actions) and peta used the picture as an ad campaign that it displayed on several billboards around various cities saying "If you wouldn't do this to a dog, why would you do it to a fish?"

 

The general population saw this and automatically assumed that people were now using dogs as fish bait. Which in turn led to the fake news sites exploiting it for their personal gain.

 

 

disstress

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Originally posted by Phoenixs
Originally posted by Umbrood
The only horrid news here is that people, in this day and age and on the net, fall for these cams.
Just look at that picture, now honestly, do you think that there is even a one in a TRILLION chance to catch a shark with that dog as bait?
Not saying this story couldnt be true, cause it could, but it is NOT damnit, its like that old jar-kitten thing that was around a few years back, I could understand why people fell for that back then cause the internet was kinda new, but believeing this thing is just bloody stupid.

Dude what is wrong with you? You remind me of the people that believe holocaust never happened. Just because it's so cruel, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I don't understand why you think that it's more likely that a animal rights organization tortures animals than people that really do it. Why should they do this propaganda? They hate poor fishermen so much that they have to get the whole world to punish them? It's just stupid to say that this is propaganda. Propaganda is used to "target" something. There is no target here.

This story is true. Remember these are poor fishermen that don't have the money to get huge chunks of meat as bait. These animals are free for them to capture. If it works for fishing sharks? Yes. The fishermen travel to reefs and places where they know the shark is. Then they throw small meat bits and stuff into the water to get the shark to the area around the boat. Then the animals with the hooks are dropped into the water. I think it's much more likely that a sharks bites on a hook with something that moves than a lifeless piece of meat.

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I can tell you have never been shark fishing, yet you are trying to tell someone how it works.
The shark is not more likley to attack a dog than a piece of bloody chum. The only way that this would work is if the fishermen were chopping the dogs up and using them for bait in that way. Unless this is a sport of some sort, this isn't happening.

In order for this to work, the shark would have to take a bite that would completely consume the dog. Otherwise the hook would rip and the dog would just be torn to pieces and no shark would be caught.

As far as there being no target, you are wrong. Many people are opposed to shark fishing. Also, there are many people that are against sea fishing, they believe that we will destroy the supply of fish in the ocean.

Sea fishing is a very large industry, and if someone can target an exotic catch like a shark, and have the freakishly stupid animal rights activists boycott it successfully because of a made up story in a far off remote place, then they may think that they can prevent shark fishing everywhere. Granted the logic isn't air tight, but neither is the logic of most animal rights activists.

disstress

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Originally posted by AshenHand
This is a fake story that all started from a Peta attempt at drawing in supporters. The dog got accidentaly hooked (by his own actions) and peta used the picture as an ad campaign that it displayed on several billboards around various cities saying "If you wouldn't do this to a dog, why would you do it to a fish?"

The general population saw this and automatically assumed that people were now using dogs as fish bait. Which in turn led to the fake news sites exploiting it for their personal gain.

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This makes the most sense so far.