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Wolcen Announces 'ExtrAction RPG' Project Pantheon, First Closed Alpha Tests Start This Month | MMOR

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited January 14 in News & Features Discussion

imageWolcen Announces 'ExtrAction RPG' Project Pantheon, First Closed Alpha Tests Start This Month | MMORPG.com

Project Pantheon, a new extraction ARPG from Wolcen Studio, with diverse maps, a player-driven economy, and open trading, in a mythologically-inspired dark fantasy world.

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  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 2,067
    Yeah. I bought Wolcen day 1. I won't be repeating that error with this title.
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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member RarePosts: 543
    The shut down servers on September 17th and abandoned Wolcen and gave the big FU to their fans and supporters. You would have to be delusional to support anything from this studio.
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  • TheIdealistTheIdealist Member UncommonPosts: 53
    Well looks like someone understood that POE Formula ARPG without pvp does work only for POE. That myth that ARPG is made only for PVE is stupid.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,081
    They've apparently lost a ton of execs and senior people since Wolcen launched. That could be good but you have to be very skeptical with this developer. They are one of the worst at communicating in the business.

    They also broke their promise of adding a final story chapter like the previous ones. They just rushed in a tiny story element mixed with the existing endgame.

    I'm not sure there's much demand for what they are designing and maybe they'll pull another 180 with this new game like they did with Umbra, their original kickstarter design for Wolcen.
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,441
    Elidien_ga said:
    The shut down servers on September 17th and abandoned Wolcen and gave the big FU to their fans and supporters. You would have to be delusional to support anything from this studio.
    What!!!! They shut the servers down??? Can I still play offline?

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,125
    edited January 14
    I bought Wolcen for a few bucks after they announced the server shut down. My expectations were in the right place and it didn't let me down (until Act 4 when it became brutally hard). It didn't exactly stand out either, but the combat was really satisfyingly meaty.

    Not sure how to feel about this new twist on the genre. I don't like extraction games, but I've also never seen them applied to a PvE genre that I actually like. Surprise me.

    cheyane said:
    Elidien_ga said:
    The shut down servers on September 17th and abandoned Wolcen and gave the big FU to their fans and supporters. You would have to be delusional to support anything from this studio.
    What!!!! They shut the servers down??? Can I still play offline?

    Yes. And honestly... a no pressure offline ARPG experience is refreshing in this seasonal FOMO genre. Though Grim Dawn does it better.
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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member EpicPosts: 1,568
    They had me at: "ExtrAction"

    And by had, I mean I had myself checked out to be sure I wasn't having a stroke.
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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member RarePosts: 543
    cheyane said:
    Elidien_ga said:
    The shut down servers on September 17th and abandoned Wolcen and gave the big FU to their fans and supporters. You would have to be delusional to support anything from this studio.
    What!!!! They shut the servers down??? Can I still play offline?

    Yeah thankfully the game still works (thankful in terms of not sunsetting entirely) but servers are closed and no more updates. 
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,677
    TheIdealist said:
    Well looks like someone understood that POE Formula ARPG without pvp does work only for POE. That myth that ARPG is made only for PVE is stupid.

    PvE is all I do in ARPGs and I doubt I'm alone in that.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,125
    KnightFalz said:
    TheIdealist said:
    Well looks like someone understood that POE Formula ARPG without pvp does work only for POE. That myth that ARPG is made only for PVE is stupid.

    PvE is all I do in ARPGs and I doubt I'm alone in that.
    Correct. Who the fuck PvPs in an ARPG?
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 14
    Why is it a bad thing that Wolcen no longer receives updates? To me it signals stability and familiarity, a much more sexy terms than seasons, ladders, changes etc.

    That beggars the question. Can it be modded now?
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,125
    Gorwe said:
    Why is it a bad thing that Wolcen no longer receives updates? To me it signals stability and familiarity, a much more sexy terms than seasons, ladders, changes etc.

    That beggars the question. Can it be modded now?
    Could it be? Probably. Is there a dedicated fanbase willing to mod it the way they modded Torchlight 2? Probably not.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 33,256
    Aeander said:
    KnightFalz said:
    TheIdealist said:
    Well looks like someone understood that POE Formula ARPG without pvp does work only for POE. That myth that ARPG is made only for PVE is stupid.

    PvE is all I do in ARPGs and I doubt I'm alone in that.
    Correct. Who the fuck PvPs in an ARPG?

    I think people have been pvp'ing in ARPG's since Diablo 2.
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  • Super73Super73 Member UncommonPosts: 56
    The ARPG scene is dead enough, no need to piss on the ashes with Wolcen.
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,660
    edited January 15
    Super73 said:
    The ARPG scene is dead enough, no need to piss on the ashes with Wolcen.
    This is a silly take. ARPGs, just like MMOs tbh, are "long haul" games. There are people playing and enjoying things like Diablo 2-4, Dungeon Siege 2, Path of Exile, van Helsing, Torchlight 2, Inq: Mart, TQ + GD and even Wolcen. Not to mention Ladt Epoch, upcoming TQ2, PoE2 etc.

    It's alive enough, you don't need Fortnite or Helldivers numbers.
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,441
    Super73 said:
    The ARPG scene is dead enough, no need to piss on the ashes with Wolcen.
    Were you not aware of Path of Exile 2's excitement when it came out recently? ARPG scene is not dead what an honestly misguided opinion. 
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  • TheIdealistTheIdealist Member UncommonPosts: 53

    Aeander said:


    KnightFalz said:


    TheIdealist said:

    Well looks like someone understood that POE Formula ARPG without pvp does work only for POE. That myth that ARPG is made only for PVE is stupid.



    PvE is all I do in ARPGs and I doubt I'm alone in that.


    Correct. Who the fuck PvPs in an ARPG?



    Everyone who started playing ARPG before TikTok. Whats the point to play an online game if there is no competitive endgame content?
  • GrindcoreTHRALLGrindcoreTHRALL Member RarePosts: 356
    So stoked for this. I was working on an extraction ARPG concept but they beat me to the prize. I am very glad to hear about it and cant wait to see it.
    Sovrath
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 33,256
    TheIdealist said:

    Aeander said:


    KnightFalz said:


    TheIdealist said:

    Well looks like someone understood that POE Formula ARPG without pvp does work only for POE. That myth that ARPG is made only for PVE is stupid.



    PvE is all I do in ARPGs and I doubt I'm alone in that.


    Correct. Who the fuck PvPs in an ARPG?



    Everyone who started playing ARPG before TikTok. Whats the point to play an online game if there is no competitive endgame content?
    That’s certainly a take on it.

    One could just as easily say “collaborative content.”
    Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb." 

    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,836
    Didn’t Pantheon MMO already try a Pantheon extraction rpg?
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,825
    edited January 15
    Didn’t Pantheon MMO already try a Pantheon extraction rpg?
    I can't even follow all the twists and turns, it is like the developers were negotiating a cease fire not making a game. :)
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,825
    edited January 15
    Sovrath said:

    Aeander said:





    Well looks like someone understood that POE Formula ARPG without pvp does work only for POE. That myth that ARPG is made only for PVE is stupid.



    PvE is all I do in ARPGs and I doubt I'm alone in that.


    Correct. Who the fuck PvPs in an ARPG?



    Everyone who started playing ARPG before TikTok. Whats the point to play an online game if there is no competitive endgame content?
    That’s certainly a take on it.

    One could just as easily say “collaborative content.”
    Well you have brought up one here. Just how much time do players play the PvP on ARPG? If it is a lot less than the PvE time you have to ask "are these games not too PvP slanted?". I have always found them to be a little lacking PvE wise. But it is hard to judge these games to other RPG genre's, maybe I am just not taking into account smaller budgets.

    The PVP you get varies a lot as well, but surely no one sees that as their strength? As a big PvP fan (as well as PvE) I wish it was better.
    ValdemarJ
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,125
    Sovrath said:
    Aeander said:
    KnightFalz said:
    TheIdealist said:
    Well looks like someone understood that POE Formula ARPG without pvp does work only for POE. That myth that ARPG is made only for PVE is stupid.

    PvE is all I do in ARPGs and I doubt I'm alone in that.
    Correct. Who the fuck PvPs in an ARPG?

    I think people have been pvp'ing in ARPG's since Diablo 2.
    I'm sure the two of them know eachother very well. I hope they got married.
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  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 2,067
    I'm in my 50's. I've been playing video games since I was 8 or so. Atari 2600, Atari 400, Commodore 64 era. I've been playing ARPGs since Rogue which is the game that spawned the term "rogue-like" although I played Angband more. Feel free to Google it.

    All that "back in my day" and "get off my lawn, kid" to say I've never intentionally PvPed in an ARPG. There were little tricks you could do in Diablo 2 to get people to flag for PvP and I've had that happen. I also accidentally killed teammates in Diablo 1 because it had friendly fire. I'm not sure it counts as PvP until the part where they get mad and shoot back, though, haha.

    ARPGs have and always will be about the loot hunt. That's why people play those games. End game is about min/maxing to the highest degree. PvP, if it exists in the game, is a side show. It's never balanced because the game isn't built around it. If you want PvP you go play League of Legends or Counter Strike. Those are games designed for PvP.
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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member RarePosts: 543
    Angrakhan said:
    I'm in my 50's. I've been playing video games since I was 8 or so. Atari 2600, Atari 400, Commodore 64 era. I've been playing ARPGs since Rogue which is the game that spawned the term "rogue-like" although I played Angband more. Feel free to Google it.

    All that "back in my day" and "get off my lawn, kid" to say I've never intentionally PvPed in an ARPG. There were little tricks you could do in Diablo 2 to get people to flag for PvP and I've had that happen. I also accidentally killed teammates in Diablo 1 because it had friendly fire. I'm not sure it counts as PvP until the part where they get mad and shoot back, though, haha.

    ARPGs have and always will be about the loot hunt. That's why people play those games. End game is about min/maxing to the highest degree. PvP, if it exists in the game, is a side show. It's never balanced because the game isn't built around it. If you want PvP you go play League of Legends or Counter Strike. Those are games designed for PvP.
    This is my experience as well with this genre and PVP.
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