Hey Welcome back man. Although i am not interested in playing these style games myself i am curious how did you make out with your champion or champions?
Glad you asked. I'm not out, so i didn't make out. I'm enjoying the hell out the game. I've increased the number of champs I have. I sold one for 1 ETH a couple weeks ago. Out of 3800 champs that have been bloodied/fought, I have one floating around the top .05% as well.
Serious question here...
If I bought into this game a month ago... ETH was around 3200. Its around 2500 now. Are you really comfortable with not only gambling on the in-game stuff which maybe to some extent you can influence... but then multiplying that by the volatility of ETH?
This to me has always been the "bridge too far". I mean, I certainly enjoy the occasional bet on a sporting event but I can't imagine making a bet but using a currency so uncontrolled that I could lose more value than the bet was even worth within a one month time. Sure.. I could also "win" more than the bet was worth if it reversed... but that seems like exponential risk to me.
Can this even BE a success story at this point in time when the currency its based on has fallen off a cliff?
And that's a serious question. Honestly not ragging on you for the love you obviously have for this stuff... but those are the questions which will always prevent me from ever joining you.
Great question. I believe ETH will be here, and in charge for the forseable future. I went in hard because i believed the market was going bear. I want to earn as much eth as possible during the bear, 10 months 20, 30 months whatever it maybe. As far as the asset, I will raise the ETH price if I choose to sell.
I feel much better owning and asset that pays rather than one that does not during a down turn.
I mean… I cant disagree with the concept as I’m putting money into the stock market now when everyone is getting out… but I just can’t mix that with gaming.
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Two thousand people are having their toons waddle around and fight each other while the prices continue to drop. The 'All Time' graph is pretty telling.
Smashing success.
I wouldn't really count that as any kind of failure either though.
The important difference between NFTs and stocks in things like pharma, energy, etc. is that people need those companies and resources whereas nobody... absolutely nobody needs NFTs. And yes, the stock market has risks but part ownership in real things is where the smart money will be long term.
The other thing is the stock market historically has risen 75% of the time vs declines when reviewed over longer time periods.
This new crypto gaming / NFT world hasn't been around long enough for "investors" to get any sort of feel for it's long term performance, but indications that I see is a rapid early run up, (possibly due to outside influence) followed by a drive off the cliff leaving a majority of suckers holding the bag.
Rinse and repeat. Add in the lack of regulations, volitilty of currency and it makes casino gambling look like a safer bet in comparison.
Zed Run has been around 4 almost 5 years. They just inked a deal with Budweiser. Over the past week or so multiple horses have sold for 20+ eth.
From this video I get the impression that the champions fight on their own. Do you control the champions? Can you dodge or move them in the fights?
Is this a game where you purchase rare fighters and then like you would a dog fight let them fight it out. How does it work?
I like that, like a dog fight or a table top miniatures. Yes they fight on their own.
At this moment their are 11k pure blood champions which all have their unique stats. Summonng is on the way. You'll be able to take the blood of 2 champs and summon a half blood.
Further out, you will be able to control your champ if you choose in a different mode. The Darklands, and expansion of The Red Village is also coming. Sounds like some type of mmorpg. PvE will be involved.
From this video I get the impression that the champions fight on their own. Do you control the champions? Can you dodge or move them in the fights?
Is this a game where you purchase rare fighters and then like you would a dog fight let them fight it out. How does it work?
It's a spreadsheet game. People buy toons that have stats which affect an algorithm, then bet on the outcome of that algorithm. Players have no direct effect on the matches.
The "game" part doesn't even need to exist, which is, IMO, the saddest part about P2E projects like this. The outcome of these fights are most likely decided within milliseconds of the match starting, but they have 3d models playing the fight out over a few minutes to give the illusion of gameplay. It's not a game, it's a digital gambling machine.
I wonder how many people actually watch the fights they enter their NFTs into? Is there any data on views for their website's stream?
Aaaah but you do have a direct affect on matches. You select your champs stance before the match. Aggressive, Defensive, Accurate, or Balanced.
Each attack/defense/special def special atk is an individual roll. Each hit is played out by the Champions, blow by blow.
To insure fairness and to prevent tampering (removal of the human hand). 20 or so matches are sim'd, blow by blow then one is selected using chainlink VRF (varifiably random function). The one selected is the one we see.
This is like all those mobile games on the phone where they use autobattle. This is a thinly veiled attempt to capitalize on people's addiction to gambling. Why even bother explaining the game when there is hardly any game to speak of.
This is like all those mobile games on the phone where they use autobattle. This is a thinly veiled attempt to capitalize on people's addiction to gambling. Why even bother explaining the game when there is hardly any game to speak of.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I recall you loved PvP games like Wushu and I am perplexed how you went from that to this but it is not my place to judge.
I talked about this once before. I love the pure mental aspect of competition. There are no excuses.
Naw, you are an adrenaline junkie and closet gambler, but someday you'll be coming out, be sure to invite me to the party.
BTW you sound like a sports team owner, bit silly to say you love the competition when you don't actually play the game itself.
I never played games to relax. Since 5, playing combat against my dad on Atari, I played to win.
You damn right I'm an adrenaline junkie. We all where at once. We all use to get a pump from playing games. You dont get excited/hype/pumped anymore?
1-800-Gambler. Although it is not your intent, you are showing rational people exactly why these "games" are souless grifts. Oh and your cheerleading is again crossing the line from discussion into outright shilling for a "business."
I recall you loved PvP games like Wushu and I am perplexed how you went from that to this but it is not my place to judge.
I talked about this once before. I love the pure mental aspect of competition. There are no excuses.
Naw, you are an adrenaline junkie and closet gambler, but someday you'll be coming out, be sure to invite me to the party.
BTW you sound like a sports team owner, bit silly to say you love the competition when you don't actually play the game itself.
I never played games to relax. Since 5, playing combat against my dad on Atari, I played to win.
You damn right I'm an adrenaline junkie. We all where at once. We all use to get a pump from playing games. You dont get excited/hype/pumped anymore?
From what I can gather, there is no competitive skill involved. You have no control over your character, your personal abilities and skill have nothing to do with who wins or loses. It is like playing a slot machine; there is some small skill at the beginning to pick a machine that has slightly better odds.
So no, no thrill for me in that.
In a casino, I never play slot machines. The next step up is a game like craps. You are betting on rolls of the dice but your personal skill and knowledge do have some effect. For example, there are several ways to bet on the number 6, and some pay much better than others. There is some skill involved, but it is still a game of chance.
I guess horse racing is next. Again, you have no direct control but your skill and knowledge is pitted directly against other players. You can be "better" at it than other people are, and win their money. Playing the stock market is very similar: you study the past statistics, learn as much as you can about current conditions, and then bet that you know better than the others playing. Again, you can be "better" than others and win their money.
None of that interests me enough to spend any real time on it.
In contrast, a computer game is mostly about your personal skill and knowledge. Your choices of what skill to use, when, and how are what determines the outcome. There is a small amount of chance to add a bit of flavor. There is some thrill left for me in these types of games.
So ask yourself: would you play this game if there was no money involved? Just for fun? Or is the thrill really because you have real money tied up in the outcome? If so, that is just gambling.
I recall you loved PvP games like Wushu and I am perplexed how you went from that to this but it is not my place to judge.
I talked about this once before. I love the pure mental aspect of competition. There are no excuses.
Naw, you are an adrenaline junkie and closet gambler, but someday you'll be coming out, be sure to invite me to the party.
BTW you sound like a sports team owner, bit silly to say you love the competition when you don't actually play the game itself.
I never played games to relax. Since 5, playing combat against my dad on Atari, I played to win.
You damn right I'm an adrenaline junkie. We all where at once. We all use to get a pump from playing games. You dont get excited/hype/pumped anymore?
From what I can gather, there is no competitive skill involved. You have no control over your character, your personal abilities and skill have nothing to do with who wins or loses. It is like playing a slot machine; there is some small skill at the beginning to pick a machine that has slightly better odds.
So no, no thrill for me in that.
In a casino, I never play slot machines. The next step up is a game like craps. You are betting on rolls of the dice but your personal skill and knowledge do have some effect. For example, there are several ways to bet on the number 6, and some pay much better than others. There is some skill involved, but it is still a game of chance.
I guess horse racing is next. Again, you have no direct control but your skill and knowledge is pitted directly against other players. You can be "better" at it than other people are, and win their money. Playing the stock market is very similar: you study the past statistics, learn as much as you can about current conditions, and then bet that you know better than the others playing. Again, you can be "better" than others and win their money.
None of that interests me enough to spend any real time on it.
In contrast, a computer game is mostly about your personal skill and knowledge. Your choices of what skill to use, when, and how are what determines the outcome. There is a small amount of chance to add a bit of flavor. There is some thrill left for me in these types of games.
So ask yourself: would you play this game if there was no money involved? Just for fun? Or is the thrill really because you have real money tied up in the outcome? If so, that is just gambling.
I choose they style my Champion fights every match based on deep analysis.
There's about 25 data points I look at to determine the best stance for my Champion.
I recall you loved PvP games like Wushu and I am perplexed how you went from that to this but it is not my place to judge.
I talked about this once before. I love the pure mental aspect of competition. There are no excuses.
Naw, you are an adrenaline junkie and closet gambler, but someday you'll be coming out, be sure to invite me to the party.
BTW you sound like a sports team owner, bit silly to say you love the competition when you don't actually play the game itself.
I never played games to relax. Since 5, playing combat against my dad on Atari, I played to win.
You damn right I'm an adrenaline junkie. We all where at once. We all use to get a pump from playing games. You dont get excited/hype/pumped anymore?
From what I can gather, there is no competitive skill involved. You have no control over your character, your personal abilities and skill have nothing to do with who wins or loses. It is like playing a slot machine; there is some small skill at the beginning to pick a machine that has slightly better odds.
So no, no thrill for me in that.
In a casino, I never play slot machines. The next step up is a game like craps. You are betting on rolls of the dice but your personal skill and knowledge do have some effect. For example, there are several ways to bet on the number 6, and some pay much better than others. There is some skill involved, but it is still a game of chance.
I guess horse racing is next. Again, you have no direct control but your skill and knowledge is pitted directly against other players. You can be "better" at it than other people are, and win their money. Playing the stock market is very similar: you study the past statistics, learn as much as you can about current conditions, and then bet that you know better than the others playing. Again, you can be "better" than others and win their money.
None of that interests me enough to spend any real time on it.
In contrast, a computer game is mostly about your personal skill and knowledge. Your choices of what skill to use, when, and how are what determines the outcome. There is a small amount of chance to add a bit of flavor. There is some thrill left for me in these types of games.
So ask yourself: would you play this game if there was no money involved? Just for fun? Or is the thrill really because you have real money tied up in the outcome? If so, that is just gambling.
I choose they style my Champion fights every match based on deep analysis.
I see that the same as the slot machine: at the beginning pick a machine that has slightly better odds. A computer game by contrast forces you to make these decisions very rapidly, usually more than once a second.
Would you play Red Village if there was no money involved? Just for the fun of it?
I recall you loved PvP games like Wushu and I am perplexed how you went from that to this but it is not my place to judge.
I talked about this once before. I love the pure mental aspect of competition. There are no excuses.
Naw, you are an adrenaline junkie and closet gambler, but someday you'll be coming out, be sure to invite me to the party.
BTW you sound like a sports team owner, bit silly to say you love the competition when you don't actually play the game itself.
I never played games to relax. Since 5, playing combat against my dad on Atari, I played to win.
You damn right I'm an adrenaline junkie. We all where at once. We all use to get a pump from playing games. You dont get excited/hype/pumped anymore?
From what I can gather, there is no competitive skill involved. You have no control over your character, your personal abilities and skill have nothing to do with who wins or loses. It is like playing a slot machine; there is some small skill at the beginning to pick a machine that has slightly better odds.
So no, no thrill for me in that.
In a casino, I never play slot machines. The next step up is a game like craps. You are betting on rolls of the dice but your personal skill and knowledge do have some effect. For example, there are several ways to bet on the number 6, and some pay much better than others. There is some skill involved, but it is still a game of chance.
I guess horse racing is next. Again, you have no direct control but your skill and knowledge is pitted directly against other players. You can be "better" at it than other people are, and win their money. Playing the stock market is very similar: you study the past statistics, learn as much as you can about current conditions, and then bet that you know better than the others playing. Again, you can be "better" than others and win their money.
None of that interests me enough to spend any real time on it.
In contrast, a computer game is mostly about your personal skill and knowledge. Your choices of what skill to use, when, and how are what determines the outcome. There is a small amount of chance to add a bit of flavor. There is some thrill left for me in these types of games.
So ask yourself: would you play this game if there was no money involved? Just for fun? Or is the thrill really because you have real money tied up in the outcome? If so, that is just gambling.
I choose they style my Champion fights every match based on deep analysis.
I see that the same as the slot machine: at the beginning pick a machine that has slightly better odds. A computer game by contrast forces you to make these decisions very rapidly, usually more than once a second.
Would you play Red Village if there was no money involved? Just for the fun of it?
Yeah man I played a lot of those. Tab target and twitch. I was pretty damn good.
There's something about eliminating the physical element and having knowledge and understanding be the determining factor.
No excuses. Anyone can do it IF they have the brains.
I recall you loved PvP games like Wushu and I am perplexed how you went from that to this but it is not my place to judge.
I talked about this once before. I love the pure mental aspect of competition. There are no excuses.
Naw, you are an adrenaline junkie and closet gambler, but someday you'll be coming out, be sure to invite me to the party.
BTW you sound like a sports team owner, bit silly to say you love the competition when you don't actually play the game itself.
I never played games to relax. Since 5, playing combat against my dad on Atari, I played to win.
You damn right I'm an adrenaline junkie. We all where at once. We all use to get a pump from playing games. You dont get excited/hype/pumped anymore?
From what I can gather, there is no competitive skill involved. You have no control over your character, your personal abilities and skill have nothing to do with who wins or loses. It is like playing a slot machine; there is some small skill at the beginning to pick a machine that has slightly better odds.
So no, no thrill for me in that.
In a casino, I never play slot machines. The next step up is a game like craps. You are betting on rolls of the dice but your personal skill and knowledge do have some effect. For example, there are several ways to bet on the number 6, and some pay much better than others. There is some skill involved, but it is still a game of chance.
I guess horse racing is next. Again, you have no direct control but your skill and knowledge is pitted directly against other players. You can be "better" at it than other people are, and win their money. Playing the stock market is very similar: you study the past statistics, learn as much as you can about current conditions, and then bet that you know better than the others playing. Again, you can be "better" than others and win their money.
None of that interests me enough to spend any real time on it.
In contrast, a computer game is mostly about your personal skill and knowledge. Your choices of what skill to use, when, and how are what determines the outcome. There is a small amount of chance to add a bit of flavor. There is some thrill left for me in these types of games.
So ask yourself: would you play this game if there was no money involved? Just for fun? Or is the thrill really because you have real money tied up in the outcome? If so, that is just gambling.
I choose they style my Champion fights every match based on deep analysis.
I see that the same as the slot machine: at the beginning pick a machine that has slightly better odds. A computer game by contrast forces you to make these decisions very rapidly, usually more than once a second.
Would you play Red Village if there was no money involved? Just for the fun of it?
Yeah man I played a lot of those. Tab target and twitch. I was pretty damn good.
There's something about eliminating the physical element and having knowledge and understanding be the determining factor.
No excuses. Anyone can do it IF they have the brains.
So you would play Red Village if there was no money involved? For the fun?
I recall you loved PvP games like Wushu and I am perplexed how you went from that to this but it is not my place to judge.
I talked about this once before. I love the pure mental aspect of competition. There are no excuses.
Naw, you are an adrenaline junkie and closet gambler, but someday you'll be coming out, be sure to invite me to the party.
BTW you sound like a sports team owner, bit silly to say you love the competition when you don't actually play the game itself.
I never played games to relax. Since 5, playing combat against my dad on Atari, I played to win.
You damn right I'm an adrenaline junkie. We all where at once. We all use to get a pump from playing games. You dont get excited/hype/pumped anymore?
From what I can gather, there is no competitive skill involved. You have no control over your character, your personal abilities and skill have nothing to do with who wins or loses. It is like playing a slot machine; there is some small skill at the beginning to pick a machine that has slightly better odds.
So no, no thrill for me in that.
In a casino, I never play slot machines. The next step up is a game like craps. You are betting on rolls of the dice but your personal skill and knowledge do have some effect. For example, there are several ways to bet on the number 6, and some pay much better than others. There is some skill involved, but it is still a game of chance.
I guess horse racing is next. Again, you have no direct control but your skill and knowledge is pitted directly against other players. You can be "better" at it than other people are, and win their money. Playing the stock market is very similar: you study the past statistics, learn as much as you can about current conditions, and then bet that you know better than the others playing. Again, you can be "better" than others and win their money.
None of that interests me enough to spend any real time on it.
In contrast, a computer game is mostly about your personal skill and knowledge. Your choices of what skill to use, when, and how are what determines the outcome. There is a small amount of chance to add a bit of flavor. There is some thrill left for me in these types of games.
So ask yourself: would you play this game if there was no money involved? Just for fun? Or is the thrill really because you have real money tied up in the outcome? If so, that is just gambling.
I choose they style my Champion fights every match based on deep analysis.
I see that the same as the slot machine: at the beginning pick a machine that has slightly better odds. A computer game by contrast forces you to make these decisions very rapidly, usually more than once a second.
Would you play Red Village if there was no money involved? Just for the fun of it?
Yeah man I played a lot of those. Tab target and twitch. I was pretty damn good.
There's something about eliminating the physical element and having knowledge and understanding be the determining factor.
No excuses. Anyone can do it IF they have the brains.
So you would play Red Village if there was no money involved? For the fun?
No i dont think i would.
I stopped playing mmorpgs in 2014. ESO was my last. The thrill was gone and the hours invested gave nothing in return. I was wasting time.
Today there needs to be something meaningful involved for me to play.
Really fun and earn some, awesome. Fun and earn a lot, awesome. Really fun earn nothing, just a time waster. Wont play for long. Boring and earn a lot, just another job. Wont play for long.
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Good to see you back BC.
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From this video I get the impression that the champions fight on their own. Do you control the champions? Can you dodge or move them in the fights?
Is this a game where you purchase rare fighters and then like you would a dog fight let them fight it out. How does it work?
At this moment their are 11k pure blood champions which all have their unique stats. Summonng is on the way. You'll be able to take the blood of 2 champs and summon a half blood.
Further out, you will be able to control your champ if you choose in a different mode. The Darklands, and expansion of The Red Village is also coming. Sounds like some type of mmorpg. PvE will be involved.
https://the-red-village.gitbook.io/the-red-village/
Each attack/defense/special def special atk is an individual roll. Each hit is played out by the Champions, blow by blow.
To insure fairness and to prevent tampering (removal of the human hand). 20 or so matches are sim'd, blow by blow then one is selected using chainlink VRF (varifiably random function). The one selected is the one we see.
edit - Watching is important. The data only tells so much. Everyone I know trys to watch live or watches the replay. Hit the discord up ask for yourself lol. Shits intense.
https://discord.com/channels/882427312346366022/882427312728051739
^^^Twitch^^^^
I recall you loved PvP games like Wushu and I am perplexed how you went from that to this but it is not my place to judge.
BTW you sound like a sports team owner, bit silly to say you love the competition when you don't actually play the game itself.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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You damn right I'm an adrenaline junkie. We all where at once. We all use to get a pump from playing games. You dont get excited/hype/pumped anymore?
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2024: 47 years on the Net.
There's about 25 data points I look at to determine the best stance for my Champion.
Sir, you would not know where to start.
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2024: 47 years on the Net.
There's something about eliminating the physical element and having knowledge and understanding be the determining factor.
No excuses. Anyone can do it IF they have the brains.
So you would play Red Village if there was no money involved? For the fun?
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2024: 47 years on the Net.
I stopped playing mmorpgs in 2014. ESO was my last. The thrill was gone and the hours invested gave nothing in return. I was wasting time.
Today there needs to be something meaningful involved for me to play.
Really fun and earn some, awesome.
Fun and earn a lot, awesome.
Really fun earn nothing, just a time waster. Wont play for long.
Boring and earn a lot, just another job. Wont play for long.