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ESO devs call playerbase crybabies

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Clip from an ESO dev's livestream shows polite question about the prospect of fixing lag in Cyrodiil answered by calling players crybabies ... wow:


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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,900
    LOL, she's not wrong though.  PVErs complain too but PVPers are always complaining and it's not exclusive to ESO. 
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 16,635
    I'm going to need some context, That doesn't look like an official ZOS stream and on the ESO forums someone said that's Rich Lambert's wife and her not ESO related stream?

    Also... Rich's reaction belongs in the watchpeopledieinside subreddit lol. He didn't look pleased.
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  • tzervotzervo Member EpicPosts: 2,269
    klash2def said:
    LOL, she's not wrong though.  PVErs complain too but PVPers are always complaining and it's not exclusive to ESO. 
    Regardless of whether she is wrong or not, it was unprofessional and stupid.
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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,037
    Iselin said:
    I'm going to need some context, That doesn't look like an official ZOS stream and on the ESO forums someone said that's Rich Lambert's wife and her not ESO related stream?

    Also... Rich's reaction belongs in the watchpeopledieinside subreddit lol. He didn't look pleased.
    I think it is a personal stream Rich does - and yes it also looks to me like he wishes she hadn't said that. Nevertheless, I do think it reveals what the devs actually think about the issue, which is sad because it suggests they really don't fathom just how bad the situation is regarding lag atm.
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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member UncommonPosts: 192
    It betrays a contempt for the folks ultimately paying the bills (the customers), which is never a good look.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 16,635
    YashaX said:
    Iselin said:
    I'm going to need some context, That doesn't look like an official ZOS stream and on the ESO forums someone said that's Rich Lambert's wife and her not ESO related stream?

    Also... Rich's reaction belongs in the watchpeopledieinside subreddit lol. He didn't look pleased.
    I think it is a personal stream Rich does - and yes it also looks to me like he wishes she hadn't said that. Nevertheless, I do think it reveals what the devs actually think about the issue, which is sad because it suggests they really don't fathom just how bad the situation is regarding lag atm.
    Oh I know. It's a totally unprofessional thing to say and do even if he didn't voice it himself but it doesn't really surprise me since that kind of casual contempt for their players is exactly what I have always assumed is how they feel when in their bunker.

    I've never for one minute believed that "we listen to you and we love you" has ever been anything other than PR BS except maybe at their release day/week drunken party.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 30,304
    seemed a bit like a joke to me. I wouldn't have thought anything of it.
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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,037
    Iselin said:
    YashaX said:
    Iselin said:
    I'm going to need some context, That doesn't look like an official ZOS stream and on the ESO forums someone said that's Rich Lambert's wife and her not ESO related stream?

    Also... Rich's reaction belongs in the watchpeopledieinside subreddit lol. He didn't look pleased.
    I think it is a personal stream Rich does - and yes it also looks to me like he wishes she hadn't said that. Nevertheless, I do think it reveals what the devs actually think about the issue, which is sad because it suggests they really don't fathom just how bad the situation is regarding lag atm.
    Oh I know. It's a totally unprofessional thing to say and do even if he didn't voice it himself but it doesn't really surprise me since that kind of casual contempt for their players is exactly what I have always assumed is how they feel when in their bunker.

    I've never for one minute believed that "we listen to you and we love you" has ever been anything other than PR BS except maybe at their release day/week drunken party.
    Sure, it is unreasonable to think that they "love" the player base, my concern is that they don't even seem to recognize that the product is basically broken. 
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  • QbertqQbertq Member UncommonPosts: 52
    Can't really argue with it.  As a community, we are some of the most complaint ridden gamers out there.  Who do I complain about being called a crybaby by the way?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 39,319
    Sovrath said:
    seemed a bit like a joke to me. I wouldn't have thought anything of it.
    Fake woke is all the rage these days.

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  • RungarRungar Member RarePosts: 950
    Good or bad I always appreciate honesty. I never thought they ever listened to the players in the first place so this is no big deal really. 
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 30,304
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:
    seemed a bit like a joke to me. I wouldn't have thought anything of it.
    Fake woke is all the rage these days.



    I really wish people would take a step back. Not everything is a fight. Not everything needs outrage.

    Not just talking about this video, it's just that there are so many people who seem so delicate.

    A person at work complained that the shuttle driver wouldn't wait 3 minutes for someone to get off the subway. He said he had to leave exactly  at a certain time but she wouldn't let it go. Apparently he was getting miffed as he really had to go. She said that it made her really uncomfortable and asked to be let off the shuttle.

    I just stared at her with no real words. When I was young the guy would have flipped her off all the while smoking a cigarette.

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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,321
    edited January 11
    Everyone is glossing over the possibility that ESO players may be, in fact, crybabies.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 14,508
    Sovrath said:
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:
    seemed a bit like a joke to me. I wouldn't have thought anything of it.
    Fake woke is all the rage these days.



    I really wish people would take a step back. Not everything is a fight. Not everything needs outrage.

    Not just talking about this video, it's just that there are so many people who seem so delicate.

    A person at work complained that the shuttle driver wouldn't wait 3 minutes for someone to get off the subway. He said he had to leave exactly  at a certain time but she wouldn't let it go. Apparently he was getting miffed as he really had to go. She said that it made her really uncomfortable and asked to be let off the shuttle.

    I just stared at her with no real words. When I was young the guy would have flipped her off all the while smoking a cigarette.

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  • RungarRungar Member RarePosts: 950
    to be honest i was always surprised cyrodiil ran as good as it did. Considering how the combat system works and other considerations its a miracle it works at all. 


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 39,319
    Wargfoot said:
    Everyone is glossing over the possibility that ESO players may be, in fact, crybabies.
    Good point, is it unprofessional to state the truth?

    For some I guess so.


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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,037
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:
    seemed a bit like a joke to me. I wouldn't have thought anything of it.
    Fake woke is all the rage these days.

    Pretty deep for a kid who still hasn't got his braces off. Love the bit where he equates slavery with social media.

    Oh yeah, and thanks for bringing a politically charged right-wing rapper's song into a thread about ESO devs' attitude toward the lag issue which is crippling gameplay in Cyrodiil. Appreciate it.
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 3,761
    Well, she's not wrong :D
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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,037
    Here she is in another stream telling players to go pvp in another game if they can't handle the lag, good lord:

    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/923741471687991349/930538389562867742/qw84o0.mp4

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,815
    Kyleran said:
    Wargfoot said:
    Everyone is glossing over the possibility that ESO players may be, in fact, crybabies.
    Good point, is it unprofessional to state the truth?

    For some I guess so.



    Naw, this was a douche thing to say. Honesty would have been, "Y'all are a bunch of crybabies, but please keep paying your sub and buying Crowns cuz we love the money."

    THAT would have been honest. Zenimax/Bethesda is honest with and about everyone but themselves.

    Even if it was "just a joke" it was probably in poor taste or poorly timed. People bitching about duped legacies, the travel bug, constant disconnects, and an expensive overinflated Atom Shop in FO76 are probably crybabies too, but at least those devs are smart enough to shut the hell up about it publicly.
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  • Deathkon1Deathkon1 Member UncommonPosts: 366
    YashaX said:
    Clip from an ESO dev's livestream shows polite question about the prospect of fixing lag in Cyrodiil answered by calling players crybabies ... wow:


    Calling people cry babies for asking for lag or bugs that are causing the lag beautiful so progressive and totally doesn't say shut up cattle we are working on it stop whining 
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  • Deathkon1Deathkon1 Member UncommonPosts: 366
    edited January 13
    YashaX said:
    Kyleran said:
    Sovrath said:
    seemed a bit like a joke to me. I wouldn't have thought anything of it.
    Fake woke is all the rage these days.

    Pretty deep for a kid who still hasn't got his braces off. Love the bit where he equates slavery with social media.

    Oh yeah, and thanks for bringing a politically charged right-wing rapper's song into a thread about ESO devs' attitude toward the lag issue which is crippling gameplay in Cyrodiil. Appreciate it.
    pfff political let me add onto this by posting my own song people are so brainwashed they think that it matters right or left they enjoy us fighting each other so they can do whatever they want in the background they have pitted us against each other for years, there are no good politicians

    They use social media as a tool to cancel some and promoting others




    Lyrics in this song shows how in reality very much so we are in fact brainwashed cattle made to fight amongst ourselves
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  • templargatemplarga Member UncommonPosts: 2,075
    Regardless, this expansion announcement in a couple weeks better knock it out of the park. Another mediocre expansion will be hard to overcome. I have thousands of hours in ESO and not even finished the newest one. The feeling of been there done that and I mean about every single aspect of the game was too overwhelming.
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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,513
    If you only knew what other devs say about their players when the public isn't watching.



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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,966
    So you're saying that players are crying about developers calling them crybabies?
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