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Why does it have to be "the same thing"? Why can't it be something better?
The highest grossing film of all time (last I checked) was Avatar. An original IP. (It's also my all time favorite Theme park area BTW...). Maybe I thought parts of it were silly... maybe I hated the color blue... So what? THAT was the IP and the story... and it was original.. and it was a multi-billion dollar commercial success.
Stop setting artificial barriers and low thresholds like "Arachbro"
We CAN create things that are new and interesting... we just choose the low effort route.
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Catty enough
The alternative to changing a classic is not "Arachbro"... it's putting the time and effort required to make it into it's own thing
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This isn't about what is legally allowed... by who owns what rights. Nobody is disputing that changes CAN happen.
I will always and forever believe that the West Side Story approach is the best. But you feel free to stick with Arachbro as the only alternative.
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You continue to cling to this "group" concept which is kind of pathetic. You literally claimed that nobody ever complains if white actors switch roles or some nonsense like that. FANS COMPLAIN when things change. For you to obsessively focus on skin color as the only distinction says a lot... Not sure if you actually read these forums.. but it should be obvious that FANS COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Anyhow. I made my point repeatedly. At this time it's obviously not going to sink in so I have no compulsion to "covert you" to my view that there are better and much more lucrative alternatives than Arachbro.
As for me.. I'm going back into LostArk... with "censored" character art or not.
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What you wrote about that sword being "heaviest" isn't true/accurate.. I found the sword you were referencing and it was a 7 foot long Scottish sword NOT wielded by a 7 foot Scottsman lol AND 23lb... There's a sword that weighed 30+ pounds. I think it was Japanese but I could be wrong.
What you wrote about armor doesn't change the fact that there's armor that does weigh 50+ pounds AND when you put it on feels much heavier. Even a grown man wearing full plate struggles to keep balance when performing the basic act of walking.. Imagine being a woman + wielding even that 22lb sword you mentioned vs a male with a 22lb sword.
Joan of Arc was a person used to boost morale/walking propaganda... the Hollywood depiction of her is fairytale made up story. They killed her when she outlived her usefulness BUT that doesn't change the FACT that important MEN at one time did respect/listen/take her advice.
That 'other' thing you mentioned is another in a long line of reasons why women were not doing battle and not made as main characters in stories that had combat.
I haven't seen all movies obviously, and I can't recall all of them. But even in Terminator (1984), Sarah O'Conner character was still the same stereotype, and it wasn't until Terminator II (1991) that she became the badass she was.
In the 70s and the 80s, eastern studios, the biggest one being Golden Harvest from Hong Kong, actually did scout US, UK, and Australia for female martial artists to star in their movies, and those women got their fame first in Hong Kong movies because they didn't had many opportunities in their own country.
Hong Kong cinema, with the long and strong history of producing action movies, became the cultural force that all other Asian countries followed. Even Japan, which already had an extremely rich cinema, started introducing female leads and female warriors in their movies, anime, and manga following that change. After martial arts movies, came war movies, crime movies, samurai movies, and so on. South Korea too followed the same trend, but was just got into the game and the fame later on, mostly in 2000s.
A western version of such movies is Kill Bill (2003), I know there have been other action movies with female protagonist, like Point of No Return (1993), but Kill Bill is the movie that really changed the game in the west. First famous (not first one) eastern one is Come Drink With Me (1966).
So while sexism does exist in the east, and Korea has like one of the highest in the world, but their art (whether cinema or video-games) is progressive and has been the pinnacle of change since the early 2000s. Of course there is a lot of room for improvement, but I think they are doing rather well overall.
I know I did a lot of references from the cinema, and not from video games. But they have always been rather close, both in the west and in the east. In my opinion, Japanese games have always been more inclusive. If count the hit games with a female protagonist which also became a series, Japanese ones outnumber the US, Canada, UK, France, combined. I mean when Assassin's Creed let players choose their gender everyone thought a revolution had happened in the gaming industry and that was in 2015!
Game development in Korea follows their gaming culture. That's why there aren't that many Korean single-player games, but a lot of multiplayer and MMORPG games. They are REALLY into group play. I mean when I was there Starcraft had like the same cultural influence as Seinfeld, Sopranos, or Game of Thrones had in the west. Multiplayer competitive games are a major social activity in Korea. It is like Chess in Soviet Union.
Now this post isn't really aimed at anyone, I'm just replying to yours with some of my thoughts.
Of course, I am talking about the norm, not the exception.
Western cinema was lifting that and more from HK by the end of the 90's. If you look at the way protagonists in western movies fight, you will see that so many of them have an array of martial arts moves that they never had before. In some Western films they are just like those old HK films, you don't have to be special forces, a cop or have any reason for martial training, you can just do it. An everyday Joe can do a head kick if he is the lead in a film.
What was not lifted was the really way out stuff like running up a spray of bullets or running along walls and slapping down on a foe. But in films over here where reality is bent like the Matrix, any such moves can be seen.
This replaced combat which I would describe as "brawling" more than boxing. But we used to have some really great "gritty" combat in films that we started to see less of as we headed to the nineties. Look no further than James Bond, Connery was quite capable of dirty fighting, by the time of Moore the combat was more sanitised.
Martial arts combat looks better, and allows fight choreographers to put on more spectacle to my mind. Brawling was more "realistic" but then we are dealing with cinematic reality here.
I'm glad that you are also a fan. We should definitely exchange some notes!
Yes, it was during the Moore era that they decided to make James Bond more of a funny man with the "British" way of fighting!
If you check the credits of many action movies you'd still find some famous choreographers from Hong Kong. But in the end, the actors' capabilities would really limit how realistic or fluid fighting scenes. Right now we got like 17 cuts during one punch!
Oh yes, she could also kick high.
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I think back to the many fights I observed in high school and middle school (unfortunately). Fights between boys involved more punching and tackling, while fights between girls involved more scratching and hairpulling. Both were performing the same task of fighting but in their own way.
Of course, nobody really knew anything about fighting. Most just wildly flung their arms about. But there was an observable difference. This difference came about because they just did what felt natural to them. In other words, their performance of the task was a result of their physiology. We see this difference manifest mostly in physical activity, such as sports, where different classes are needed for men and women.
For example, in Europe's strongest man competition, men are deadlifting 360 kg (nearly 800lbs) for multiple repetitions. This weight is already far beyond the women's world record. Women would not be able to compete in this competition alongside men because their physiology is simply not as capable. They are not as suited for this task as males. When it comes to physical activity, the average male simply dominates the average female.
Translating this to a game, there are both men and women fighters (heroes) in lost ark, but they do their fighting differently. There is a male exclusive class that fights with a ridiculously giant sword, and then there are assassin and mage classes that are exclusively female. There are also male and female variations for the fist weapon and gunwielding classes, which from what I understand play slightly differently.
Is this game sexist against males because there are no male mages? (Are we too stupid for magic?) No. Is this game sexist against females because there is no female giant sword berserker. No. The design choices are not the result of an unnatural bias, but the result of recognizing a natural order. Given that it is a fantasy, however, this order can be whatever we want. It adds more character to the world in the same way that racial bonuses do in WoW (Is WoW racist for racial bonuses?) Another way instead of gender locking could be gender bonuses. But gender locking is done for practical development reasons as well, so that is something to take into consideration.
I feel that this topic is related to that of homogenization. The desire for distinct classes is something mmo players have always asked for. Well, gender locking is one way to make them more distinct. It makes the choice of gender less superficial, adding more depth.
Sad.
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PS - decent movie, I've seen it.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
The character Sarah was incredible in the first movie, having watched it 30+ times before T2 was even released (it was on broadcast TV stations all the time).
A simple waitress is hunted by an unbeatable force from the future... a future that she finds out is Armageddon.
The Terminator literally destroys everything in it's path... a body builder boyfriend in the beginning (of a different Sarah)... to an entire policeforce.. and the "male savior" from the future also is killed... and incredible mind bending plot twist that he is John's father (John sent his dad back to die so he can be born... great paradox).
She kills the Terminator in the final scene... that nobody else could!
All in just a few days of movie timeline!
Was a waitress supposed to learn how to become a master in martial arts and weapons in just a few days? One of the appeals of the movie was that the Terminator can come for even the most modest unassuming people.
Her character progression to T2 Sarah (14+ years later) is highly plausible given what she went through and knows.
This is great writing for a character's development.
PS - thank goodness The Terminator wasn't sent against a macho male who was the father of the resistance... he might have fought back before knowing the enemy.. and died instantly (See T2 beginning scenes of the biker bar).
Dang, now I'm off to boot those movies up for the XX time.
If I boot up my DVD, it would be in 480 resolution... not even HD and I will awake the household (putting a big screen on blast).
The original T1 is not on Amazon/HBOmax/Starz.. etc... I'm sure it's somewhere...
FYI - a punk tweenier boy is dictating most of the decisions throughout the movie... at the time, few people were upset.