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  • TheocritusTheocritus LegendaryPosts: 10,208Member
    Stranger Things was good first 2 seasons....season 3 stunk...and now have zero interest in season 4 whenever that is due....It feels like some of these shows have one or two seasons worth of material and then wing it from then on.....
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  • MMOman101MMOman101 UncommonPosts: 1,789Member
    Game of thrones popularity is a sign of the intellectual death of the spices.
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  • BrainyBrainy EpicPosts: 2,374Member
    Ungood said:
    BLNX said:
    I kind of dislike a lot of how different extra terrestrials are modeled. I understand it's impossible to actually know what they do look like, but I doubt most of them are bipedal with comparable limbs and height. Or at least, they shouldn't look like that
    It was explained once to me that it was about efficiency, most lifeforms will not have a body that uses more energy than necessary, so as they evolve, they will follow a form follows function approach.

    We also note that most animals in our planet have 4 limbs, so this becomes a base model, or put another way, a generic minimum, which is why in high fantasy and some sci-fi, the more apex predator, the more powerhouse the monster, invariably, the more limbs/appendages they have, because they were able to consume the additional resources to make that form viable.

    This is why Dragons have 4 legs/arms, and 2 wings, which put them at 50% more development than other normal animals, this is a mark of how much more an apex predator they are, above normal animals, and a tribute to the fact that they can in fact hunt and consume enough to support that additional energy need.

    With that in mind, since the stories are created by humans, who feel that they are somehow on the top of evolutionary ladder, it would stand to reason in their mind, outside some kind of hybrid, that the same kind of evolution process that created humans, would also happen other planets, assuming the primary species was non-insectoid.

    So a millipede is the top lifeform on earth?  Also the top predator? I think your explanation is way way to simplified and has nothing to do with limbs at all.
    AlBQuirky
  • SovrathSovrath LegendaryPosts: 33,467Member
    Brainy said:
    Ungood said:
    BLNX said:
    I kind of dislike a lot of how different extra terrestrials are modeled. I understand it's impossible to actually know what they do look like, but I doubt most of them are bipedal with comparable limbs and height. Or at least, they shouldn't look like that
    It was explained once to me that it was about efficiency, most lifeforms will not have a body that uses more energy than necessary, so as they evolve, they will follow a form follows function approach.

    We also note that most animals in our planet have 4 limbs, so this becomes a base model, or put another way, a generic minimum, which is why in high fantasy and some sci-fi, the more apex predator, the more powerhouse the monster, invariably, the more limbs/appendages they have, because they were able to consume the additional resources to make that form viable.

    This is why Dragons have 4 legs/arms, and 2 wings, which put them at 50% more development than other normal animals, this is a mark of how much more an apex predator they are, above normal animals, and a tribute to the fact that they can in fact hunt and consume enough to support that additional energy need.

    With that in mind, since the stories are created by humans, who feel that they are somehow on the top of evolutionary ladder, it would stand to reason in their mind, outside some kind of hybrid, that the same kind of evolution process that created humans, would also happen other planets, assuming the primary species was non-insectoid.

    So a millipede is the top lifeform on earth?  Also the top predator? I think your explanation is way way to simplified and has nothing to do with limbs at all.
    That's not what he said.
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  • UngoodUngood LegendaryPosts: 7,569Member
    Brainy said:
    Ungood said:
    BLNX said:
    I kind of dislike a lot of how different extra terrestrials are modeled. I understand it's impossible to actually know what they do look like, but I doubt most of them are bipedal with comparable limbs and height. Or at least, they shouldn't look like that
    It was explained once to me that it was about efficiency, most lifeforms will not have a body that uses more energy than necessary, so as they evolve, they will follow a form follows function approach.

    We also note that most animals in our planet have 4 limbs, so this becomes a base model, or put another way, a generic minimum, which is why in high fantasy and some sci-fi, the more apex predator, the more powerhouse the monster, invariably, the more limbs/appendages they have, because they were able to consume the additional resources to make that form viable.

    This is why Dragons have 4 legs/arms, and 2 wings, which put them at 50% more development than other normal animals, this is a mark of how much more an apex predator they are, above normal animals, and a tribute to the fact that they can in fact hunt and consume enough to support that additional energy need.

    With that in mind, since the stories are created by humans, who feel that they are somehow on the top of evolutionary ladder, it would stand to reason in their mind, outside some kind of hybrid, that the same kind of evolution process that created humans, would also happen other planets, assuming the primary species was non-insectoid.

    So a millipede is the top lifeform on earth?  Also the top predator? I think your explanation is way way to simplified and has nothing to do with limbs at all.
    I distinctly clarified for non-insectoid species, and you come in and mention insects.

    Now, I distinctly said Non-Insectoid, because Insects and other exoskeleton life forms, crustaceans for example, are different than other mammals because of how their limbs work, they do not need as much energy to power their limbs that a mammal would use, this is why they can start at around 6 and go up, and their number of limbs is not indicative of their combat prowess.

    But if it makes you feel any better, some centipedes are total badass.


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  • kitaradkitarad LegendaryPosts: 8,211Member
    Had one of them crawl up my leg when there was a massive flood in Malaysia. Total badass isn't what what leaps to my head I screamed my head off. I was 5 . Floods like that, that often cover roof tops is common where I am from. We live in a  house with stilts so every damn thing running away from the flood comes into your house. Oh god!!!!
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  • BrainyBrainy EpicPosts: 2,374Member
    Ungood said:
    Brainy said:
    Ungood said:
    BLNX said:
    I kind of dislike a lot of how different extra terrestrials are modeled. I understand it's impossible to actually know what they do look like, but I doubt most of them are bipedal with comparable limbs and height. Or at least, they shouldn't look like that
    It was explained once to me that it was about efficiency, most lifeforms will not have a body that uses more energy than necessary, so as they evolve, they will follow a form follows function approach.

    We also note that most animals in our planet have 4 limbs, so this becomes a base model, or put another way, a generic minimum, which is why in high fantasy and some sci-fi, the more apex predator, the more powerhouse the monster, invariably, the more limbs/appendages they have, because they were able to consume the additional resources to make that form viable.

    This is why Dragons have 4 legs/arms, and 2 wings, which put them at 50% more development than other normal animals, this is a mark of how much more an apex predator they are, above normal animals, and a tribute to the fact that they can in fact hunt and consume enough to support that additional energy need.

    With that in mind, since the stories are created by humans, who feel that they are somehow on the top of evolutionary ladder, it would stand to reason in their mind, outside some kind of hybrid, that the same kind of evolution process that created humans, would also happen other planets, assuming the primary species was non-insectoid.

    So a millipede is the top lifeform on earth?  Also the top predator? I think your explanation is way way to simplified and has nothing to do with limbs at all.
    I distinctly clarified for non-insectoid species, and you come in and mention insects.

    Now, I distinctly said Non-Insectoid, because Insects and other exoskeleton life forms, crustaceans for example, are different than other mammals because of how their limbs work, they do not need as much energy to power their limbs that a mammal would use, this is why they can start at around 6 and go up, and their number of limbs is not indicative of their combat prowess.

    But if it makes you feel any better, some centipedes are total badass.


    Squid then? Octopus? Tardigrades? what are you even going on about.   I think your point is ridiculous.
  • UngoodUngood LegendaryPosts: 7,569Member
    Brainy said:
    Ungood said:
    I distinctly clarified for non-insectoid species, and you come in and mention insects.

    Now, I distinctly said Non-Insectoid, because Insects and other exoskeleton life forms, crustaceans for example, are different than other mammals because of how their limbs work, they do not need as much energy to power their limbs that a mammal would use, this is why they can start at around 6 and go up, and their number of limbs is not indicative of their combat prowess.

    But if it makes you feel any better, some centipedes are total badass.
    Squid then? Octopus? Tardigrades? what are you even going on about.   I think your point is ridiculous.
    LOL, really reaching there aren't we? Anything to try and fight the point after that total blundering about insects, like trying to brush the mud off after falling on your ass, and then calling people stupid face, to try and make yourself feel better, Let me make this clear, you are not saving face with this direction.

    But, just to coddle you a little bit, and It seems to Need to hold your hand here, it should stand to reason for anyone, that for something to be Apex, they also need some size to back that up, ergo, Apex Predator Dragons are not the size of house cats, in a sense of irony dragons that size are often pets.

    I mean, I shouldn't need to say this, but, if it depends on it's natural ability to be apex, size and physical prowess, play a role in not being prey, unless they have other means, like Technology to back them up.

    I mean, anyone could tell you, Physically, Humans are not Apex predators, we are shit when you think about it, I mean, in reality a 50 pound cat would fuck up a 200 pound human to the point they would not live through the fight, even of they won the fight, which they damn well might not, so Humans depend heavy on technology/tools to make us competitive with the natural world around us, I mean, hell we have no natural weapons, no claws, no fangs, nothing, and to top that all off, we are not even that strong.

    But these are all things I should not need to explain, after all, I am not here to carry you from elementary school to grade school, talking about mythical evolution, or real evolution for that matter.

    Now, I would have thought that would have been just common knowledge, but here you are talking about a micro life form like a Water Bear.

    Well, I'm not one to dis to the Tardigrades, for a micro organism they are pretty badass, for a herbivore, they can live through pretty much anything, making them apex survivalists, so mad props to them for that, and the few that are predatory, kill and eat their own kind, so they brutal scary cannibalistic level badasses.

    Gonna admit, if I was ever shrunk to that size, I would not want to have to face off against a water bear, because for their size, they are not something anyone would want to fuck with. 

    Lets go to Squids/Octopi that's a good one, I hear they are very smart, but they lack size and strength, so for them to really go apex, they, like humans, would need tools  and technology, which means, they would need to get out of the water first, as technology and water don't mix well, but the idea that Squids are smart and could get to that point, is a common theme in a lot of sci-fi and fantasy works, as it does explain all the "Squid Faces" that we see, with a lot of them preying upon humans. Fitting, don't you think?

    Anyway, since it's not my theory, you are free to get butthurt over it, means nothing to me, and if you want to fuss and muss about it.. Oh well.

    So far, you have not been really making a good show of yourself, I'd say quit while you are behind, but I am sure if I said that, that would just enrage you to try harder to spite fight me on something, that is again, not even my theory.

    Brainy
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • BrainyBrainy EpicPosts: 2,374Member
    Ungood said:
    Brainy said:
    Ungood said:
    I distinctly clarified for non-insectoid species, and you come in and mention insects.

    Now, I distinctly said Non-Insectoid, because Insects and other exoskeleton life forms, crustaceans for example, are different than other mammals because of how their limbs work, they do not need as much energy to power their limbs that a mammal would use, this is why they can start at around 6 and go up, and their number of limbs is not indicative of their combat prowess.

    But if it makes you feel any better, some centipedes are total badass.
    Squid then? Octopus? Tardigrades? what are you even going on about.   I think your point is ridiculous.
    LOL, really reaching there aren't we? Anything to try and fight the point after that total blundering about insects, like trying to brush the mud off after falling on your ass, and then calling people stupid face, to try and make yourself feel better, Let me make this clear, you are not saving face with this direction.

    But, just to coddle you a little bit, and It seems to Need to hold your hand here, it should stand to reason for anyone, that for something to be Apex, they also need some size to back that up, ergo, Apex Predator Dragons are not the size of house cats, in a sense of irony dragons that size are often pets.

    I mean, I shouldn't need to say this, but, if it depends on it's natural ability to be apex, size and physical prowess, play a role in not being prey, unless they have other means, like Technology to back them up.

    I mean, anyone could tell you, Physically, Humans are not Apex predators, we are shit when you think about it, I mean, in reality a 50 pound cat would fuck up a 200 pound human to the point they would not live through the fight, even of they won the fight, which they damn well might not, so Humans depend heavy on technology/tools to make us competitive with the natural world around us, I mean, hell we have no natural weapons, no claws, no fangs, nothing, and to top that all off, we are not even that strong.

    But these are all things I should not need to explain, after all, I am not here to carry you from elementary school to grade school, talking about mythical evolution, or real evolution for that matter.

    Now, I would have thought that would have been just common knowledge, but here you are talking about a micro life form like a Water Bear.

    Well, I'm not one to dis to the Tardigrades, for a micro organism they are pretty badass, for a herbivore, they can live through pretty much anything, making them apex survivalists, so mad props to them for that, and the few that are predatory, kill and eat their own kind, so they brutal scary cannibalistic level badasses.

    Gonna admit, if I was ever shrunk to that size, I would not want to have to face off against a water bear, because for their size, they are not something anyone would want to fuck with. 

    Lets go to Squids/Octopi that's a good one, I hear they are very smart, but they lack size and strength, so for them to really go apex, they, like humans, would need tools  and technology, which means, they would need to get out of the water first, as technology and water don't mix well, but the idea that Squids are smart and could get to that point, is a common theme in a lot of sci-fi and fantasy works, as it does explain all the "Squid Faces" that we see, with a lot of them preying upon humans. Fitting, don't you think?

    Anyway, since it's not my theory, you are free to get butthurt over it, means nothing to me, and if you want to fuss and muss about it.. Oh well.

    So far, you have not been really making a good show of yourself, I'd say quit while you are behind, but I am sure if I said that, that would just enrage you to try harder to spite fight me on something, that is again, not even my theory.

    You are just blathering on an on.  Real deal is that dragons are just cool which is why they are in fantasy stories.  Nothing to do with adding limbs due to evolution.  I am sure whoever was coming up with fantasy dragons in ancient china or wherever they where made up from, wasn't thinking evolution.  You are just talking nonsense straight up.  I suppose next you going to say the dread locks in the movie predator follows your plan.

    You ever thought that wings, long claws, fire breath, long sharp teeth, bludgeoning tails, intelligence and hard scales were added to dragons to make them more awesome?  You really think these authors are talking evolution geez. 

    Go ahead with your little fantasy of trying to connect why people make cool apex monsters to some added limbs theory of evolution LOL.  Meanwhile the real apex predators Humans and Orca will be eating all those multi limb super evolved non-insects you talking about.
  • BLNXBLNX UncommonPosts: 275Member
    Also, just to add on to this little debate, the species may be beyond evolution and can just change their genetic code at birth to have increased or decreased whatever.
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  • MadBomber13MadBomber13 UncommonPosts: 139Member
     Going to assume there is some bad-blood history between some posters here because getting so worked up about this subject is beyond ridiculous. 
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  • UngoodUngood LegendaryPosts: 7,569Member
    edited March 2022
    Brainy said:
    You are just blathering on an on.  Real deal is that dragons are just cool which is why they are in fantasy stories.  Nothing to do with adding limbs due to evolution.  I am sure whoever was coming up with fantasy dragons in ancient china or wherever they where made up from, wasn't thinking evolution.  You are just talking nonsense straight up.  I suppose next you going to say the dread locks in the movie predator follows your plan.

    You ever thought that wings, long claws, fire breath, long sharp teeth, bludgeoning tails, intelligence and hard scales were added to dragons to make them more awesome?  You really think these authors are talking evolution geez. 

    Go ahead with your little fantasy of trying to connect why people make cool apex monsters to some added limbs theory of evolution LOL.  Meanwhile the real apex predators Humans and Orca will be eating all those multi limb super evolved non-insects you talking about.
    Whatever my dude.. Maybe some day you can pull the broom handle out of your ass and we can have a reasonable discussion, without you spouting stupid stuff about micro organism, or reading fails. Today, does not look like that day.. tomorrow is not looking good either, given what I just said, which I am not even going to pretend wasn't rude as fuck.

    But, Truth be told, Not sure why this theory somehow wiggled that stick up your butt, and you lost your shit over this, can't say I care either.

    But, take a chill pill and relax, it's fantasy.
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  • BLNXBLNX UncommonPosts: 275Member
    Ungood said:
    Brainy said:
    You are just blathering on an on.  Real deal is that dragons are just cool which is why they are in fantasy stories.  Nothing to do with adding limbs due to evolution.  I am sure whoever was coming up with fantasy dragons in ancient china or wherever they where made up from, wasn't thinking evolution.  You are just talking nonsense straight up.  I suppose next you going to say the dread locks in the movie predator follows your plan.

    You ever thought that wings, long claws, fire breath, long sharp teeth, bludgeoning tails, intelligence and hard scales were added to dragons to make them more awesome?  You really think these authors are talking evolution geez. 

    Go ahead with your little fantasy of trying to connect why people make cool apex monsters to some added limbs theory of evolution LOL.  Meanwhile the real apex predators Humans and Orca will be eating all those multi limb super evolved non-insects you talking about.
    Whatever my dude.. Maybe some day you can pull the broom handle out of your ass and we can have a reasonable discussion, without you spouting stupid stuff about micro organism, or reading fails. Today, does not look like that day.. tomorrow is not looking good either, given what I just said, which I am not even going to pretend wasn't rude as fuck.

    But, Truth be told, Not sure why this theory somehow wiggled that stick up your butt, and you lost your shit over this, can't say I care either.

    But, take a chill pill and relax, it's fantasy.
    Actually, it's sci-fi
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  • UngoodUngood LegendaryPosts: 7,569Member
    BLNX said:
    Ungood said:
    Brainy said:
    You are just blathering on an on.  Real deal is that dragons are just cool which is why they are in fantasy stories.  Nothing to do with adding limbs due to evolution.  I am sure whoever was coming up with fantasy dragons in ancient china or wherever they where made up from, wasn't thinking evolution.  You are just talking nonsense straight up.  I suppose next you going to say the dread locks in the movie predator follows your plan.

    You ever thought that wings, long claws, fire breath, long sharp teeth, bludgeoning tails, intelligence and hard scales were added to dragons to make them more awesome?  You really think these authors are talking evolution geez. 

    Go ahead with your little fantasy of trying to connect why people make cool apex monsters to some added limbs theory of evolution LOL.  Meanwhile the real apex predators Humans and Orca will be eating all those multi limb super evolved non-insects you talking about.
    Whatever my dude.. Maybe some day you can pull the broom handle out of your ass and we can have a reasonable discussion, without you spouting stupid stuff about micro organism, or reading fails. Today, does not look like that day.. tomorrow is not looking good either, given what I just said, which I am not even going to pretend wasn't rude as fuck.

    But, Truth be told, Not sure why this theory somehow wiggled that stick up your butt, and you lost your shit over this, can't say I care either.

    But, take a chill pill and relax, it's fantasy.
    Actually, it's sci-fi
    It's more a sludge pudding of all of it.
    BLNXAlBQuirky
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  • ArglebargleArglebargle EpicPosts: 3,517Member
    BLNX said:
    Ungood said:
    Brainy said:
    You are just blathering on an on.  Real deal is that dragons are just cool which is why they are in fantasy stories.  Nothing to do with adding limbs due to evolution.  I am sure whoever was coming up with fantasy dragons in ancient china or wherever they where made up from, wasn't thinking evolution.  You are just talking nonsense straight up.  I suppose next you going to say the dread locks in the movie predator follows your plan.

    You ever thought that wings, long claws, fire breath, long sharp teeth, bludgeoning tails, intelligence and hard scales were added to dragons to make them more awesome?  You really think these authors are talking evolution geez. 

    Go ahead with your little fantasy of trying to connect why people make cool apex monsters to some added limbs theory of evolution LOL.  Meanwhile the real apex predators Humans and Orca will be eating all those multi limb super evolved non-insects you talking about.
    Whatever my dude.. Maybe some day you can pull the broom handle out of your ass and we can have a reasonable discussion, without you spouting stupid stuff about micro organism, or reading fails. Today, does not look like that day.. tomorrow is not looking good either, given what I just said, which I am not even going to pretend wasn't rude as fuck.

    But, Truth be told, Not sure why this theory somehow wiggled that stick up your butt, and you lost your shit over this, can't say I care either.

    But, take a chill pill and relax, it's fantasy.
    Actually, it's sci-fi
    Space Opera, but the SF tradition has a pretty wide tent at this point.
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  • AdamantineAdamantine RarePosts: 5,095Member

    The Orville is a better Star Trek than newer Star Trek shows and movies.

    Why, yes ?

    I doubt many will disagree with that one.

    AlBQuirky
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins EpicPosts: 6,129Member
    I think many people agree with me on this but:

    ST:TNG became dull, predictable and formulaic.  Voyager has zero redeeming qualities and is just a pale imitation of the already dull TNG.

    AlBQuirky
  • UngoodUngood LegendaryPosts: 7,569Member
    I think many people agree with me on this but:

    ST:TNG became dull, predictable and formulaic.

    Had the Best Cast tho..
    AlBQuirky
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  • AdamantineAdamantine RarePosts: 5,095Member
    ST:TNG became dull, predictable and formulaic.  Voyager has zero redeeming qualities and is just a pale imitation of the already dull TNG.

    Why yes, in the sixth and even more seventh season they had clearly run out of ideas.

    Its still the best Star Trek series of them all though, with many great episodes.

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  • MMOman101MMOman101 UncommonPosts: 1,789Member
    I have never seen the Orville but deep space 9 is the best Star Trek. 
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  • JensynJensyn UncommonPosts: 158Member
    I love dragons as much as the next person...but I feel like the go-to medieval European dragon has just been used and abused to no end. Give me varying patterns and colors, fin types, legs, even element types. Give them feathers! Make them blind where they can only see by smelling their prey! I don't know, something different. Make them tiny! Like really tiny, like mosquitoes! Imagine getting little dragon-mosquito bites and the occasional burn when you're in a swamp dragon's domain. Now imagine a swarm of them. Absolutely horrifying.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins EpicPosts: 6,129Member
    ST:TNG became dull, predictable and formulaic.  Voyager has zero redeeming qualities and is just a pale imitation of the already dull TNG.

    Why yes, in the sixth and even more seventh season they had clearly run out of ideas.

    Its still the best Star Trek series of them all though, with many great episodes.

    I prefer TOS and DS9 to TNG.
    AlBQuirky
  • AdamantineAdamantine RarePosts: 5,095Member
    edited March 2022
    MMOman101 said:
    I have never seen the Orville but deep space 9 is the best Star Trek. 
    Deep Space Nine is Babylon 5 with far better budget, but much worse storytelling.

    Unlike any other Star Trek show, you cannot cherry pick episodes in DS9, because it has a continous story. Which means you are forced to watch every single episode, and theres plenty which are meh.

    There are plenty episodes which are meh on the other Star Trek shows, too, but you can avoid those, easy, because these shows have no continous story and you can cherrypick episodes.

    B5 is much more rewarding to watch than DS9. Sure, it starts kind of weak. But then it gets better and better. You can watch season 5 of B5 and they reference events of season 1 that at the time looked irrelevant. And its a much better story overall, too.

    Thats why I only managed to suffer through DS9 once while I've watched B5 around half a douzen times or so at this point. And keep rewatching other Star Trek, though not from start to end.

    I will have to give you that DS9 had a lot of potential. For example there are some really strong characters in it. Odo, Quark, Garak are all good fun whenever they appear. I also really liked Sisco, and Ezri Dax. There are also many bores though, especially Dr. Bashir and Jadzira Dax, but also O'Brien a bit, and quite ironically Worf was very dull on DS9. And plenty of villains have been quite dull, too, just plain dislikeable and not much else.



    The Orville is fun. But its just traditional Star Trek style. If they keep the quality on this level for another five seasons I would have to agree it rivals TNG. Its quite a bit more silly in tone though.



    Discovery, after suffering through the agony of the first two seasons I have now completely stopped caring that even exists. I dont think I have much of a talent for storywriting but even I could easily write something better. And so does probably everyone reading this.




    I prefer TOS and DS9 to TNG.
    TOS without question has some of the most important and most epic episodes of all Star Trek.

    Also TOS is the only Star Trek show which exclusively has excellent actors in all leading parts.

    It only has three seasons though and the second and third season arent that great.



    AlBQuirky
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz EpicPosts: 4,723Member
    Real viking Shield Maiden armor was leather and some chain mail, and definitely wasn't the "bikini" models you have in some ridiculous MMOs.

    "bcbully"'s opinion is not unpopular... it's just stupid, based on non realistic video games instead of reality.

    It is stupid in the context of reality. Fantasy is not set in that context generally and depending on the type can be wildly divergent from it.

    Whether something is stupid in a fantasy setting depends on how well it adheres to the reality the creator established for that setting, not actual reality.
    AlBQuirkyeoloe
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