Best full review of New World I've seen from a 500 hour player (Lazy Peon)

laserit

Scorchien said:

Stizzled said:

Scorchien said:

Iselin said:

Scorchien said:

The irony that most all of his complaints many here complained about here for weeks and we were told , we didnt know what we were talking about ..

We  Were wrong ...

 we are playing wrong ..

  we are counting wrong

   we have bad pcs

     we are haters..

      we are on bad servers..

      

      BUt ohh LAzy Peon says it  and Now .. its word .. lmfao ..priceless..

 Its good to see peoples eyes opening to this mess of a game altho it certainingly took some far longer than others ..

 Ya know what they say .. " It takes takes the dimmest Bulbs in the Box far longer to shine enough light on a problem to see it "

 

Live and learn.

You put in the time and actually play it to 60 and do that grind, present the good and the bad and use words in actual sentences instead of just spouting exaggerated and unbalanced shit and you get credibility.

Who would have thought it?

Priceless indeed that you think your trolling is on par with Peon's review.

 If you like we can go back to the threads where People here were pointing near all the same exact things  and you and others attacked them ..(I dont think you want to do that )

  There actually some very long a detailed constructive criticism here that was disregarded by the Glee Club ..

  But you just keep on backpedaling thru the New World shit .. That we all told you was there 6 + weeks ago ..

 Like i said the smart kids figured this shit out in a week

  The Other kids need it explained to them by Lazy Peon 6+ weeks later..

  We should all strive to Not be the Other kid..

 

I kind of wish you would. I'd love to see all the constructive criticism being ignored. I remember a lot of petty whining about the character creator not having enough options, asset reuse (like we see in every MMO) and, of course, mobs. Even then, none of it was outright ignored. Many of us made counterpoints and discussions were had. I guess if you fail to change someone's mind it's because they just ignored you?

Not saying there wasn't any legitimate criticism. I can remember one post about the game becoming very top heavy and it being difficult to find people at lower levels, and I completely agreed. Before all the bugs and the issues with the economy longevity was my biggest concern, and there were a lot of people around here that felt the same.

The only person around here who was unwilling to listen to any criticism was Jean, and no one has to worry about him anymore. 

I don't know why you've climbed up on such a high horse lately. The only actual criticism I've seen from you was about the combat, beyond that you liked it enough early on to give away several copies.

The bugs, the dupes, the problems with the economy and end game, none of that was brought up by you or hardly anyone else around here before it was in the news. I'd wager the "Glee Club" has far more constructive criticism than you do.

Laugh at the game struggling and possibly dying all you want. But, don't act like you were some prophet that no one would listen to. 

1.heh  .. Jean is here ...

 2.. I complained after 1 week in various threads about .

    A. Combat

    B. Lack of Mob variety

    C. RvR hrmm set up and Instanced ..

    D. Harvesting generic and Boring.

    E. Lack of Combat Skills ..

    F.  Performance in RvR

    G.Fishing is Shit

    H.Small Pop 2000

    I.Questing is Shit

    J.AH is useless.

    K. etc ..

    And i defy anyone to go back into any of threads and find the catalyst of any pissing contest ..

 It always came from people telling others..

  "Go back to wow"

  " maybe you should go back to your game with crappy rotations"

   " Hey maybe you should return to your instant gratification FPS"

               for ex..

   The passive/aggressive insults , from a small clique here that if anyone ever says anything critical of there newest Internet girlfriend the band of angry little hemorrhoids , just insults calls names and runs away, while the pat each other on the back .. ..

   Jean being the perfect example of that .. and what got him banned ..

  I am the last person that ever wants to see any game fail and really wanted NW to succeed , but as i posted my concerns here i was attacked .. So i will piss back .. Dont matter to me , I got all the time in the world .. Gets kinda funny after a while , and now even funnier watching the backwalking, excuse making ,goal post moving , and even that was predicted would happen ..(good Job Klash)

   White Knighting never ends well .. That is the root of all of this ..

   

   

I thought the fishing was pretty  good compared to most other games

Your list looks like 85% of all the mmorpg’s I have ever played.

Just saying.

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The_Korrigan

blueturtle13 said:

laserit said:

   

   

I thought the fishing was pretty  good compared to most other games

Your list looks like 85% of all the mmorpg’s I have ever played.

Just saying.

 Somehow every thread on any game lately on this site turns into talking about other posters and their behaviors instead of the game itself.
Weird behavior.
Yet I guess that shows more about those doing the posting than it does about the state of the game or gaming.
Even if games turn over the same problems as one another year after year it seems lost on those talking about them as they cant see or remember those same failings even in games they themselves 'claim' to love.
New World seems to be the ex that spurned many this site's gaming cycle for sure.
Next cycle it will be on to another game that is amazing or terrible and the 'told you so's' and the 'hallelujas' will return again.      
At least the behaviors of those involved are more predictable and simple than the games they talk about and we know who the derailers will be and are. 
I am less and less interested in the forums as of late. My discords I am on are interesting and  for the most part the chat in games with those I chose to surround myself with and dev streams from friends and coworkers are more in line with the type of communities we used to see on sites days gone by.

Agreed, discord is much better than this place. The articles here are just "click for ads", and the posters are mostly trolls, while on discord's game specific channels, we get real, live input about the games we play.

laserit

I don't want to try to psycho analyze forums.

I do enjoy having human conversation. I know I can certainly come off as a preacher, I don't want to tell people how to do anything, I would just like people to think.

I enjoy conversing with everyone here and I do respect everyone's views unless I find them preposterous which I guess in most cases would be my opinion

You will rarely see me rip any game. I know no matter how I may dislike a mechanic or game style, there are other people who love it. Now, I am extremely opinionated on business models and I can admit that. I try to give my sincere rational opinion on the topic.

I think if all we did was talk about games and stuck strictly to topics, this site would be as dry and boring as going to Sunday school.

Even people I rarely agree with can have interesting and valid points of view. It's when people do not respect each other and don't respect the right of the other person to express that view.

Think of how fucking boring life would be if we all held the same view.

I've learned many things from many people on this site. Some that I really enjoyed reading and conversing with no longer frequent this place and I think that's sad.

To anyone I may personally offended over the years, you have my sincere apologies.

Here's to you and here's to me, good friends we'll always be. If not..... well fuck you and heres to me

I'm here for a good time not a long time.

That just means that I've seen too many of my friends already leave us before their time. Don't take the people or animals you care about for granted.

Respect.

Scorchien

laserit said:

Scorchien said:

Stizzled said:

Scorchien said:

Iselin said:

Scorchien said:

The irony that most all of his complaints many here complained about here for weeks and we were told , we didnt know what we were talking about ..

We  Were wrong ...

 we are playing wrong ..

  we are counting wrong

   we have bad pcs

     we are haters..

      we are on bad servers..

      

      BUt ohh LAzy Peon says it  and Now .. its word .. lmfao ..priceless..

 Its good to see peoples eyes opening to this mess of a game altho it certainingly took some far longer than others ..

 Ya know what they say .. " It takes takes the dimmest Bulbs in the Box far longer to shine enough light on a problem to see it "

 

Live and learn.

You put in the time and actually play it to 60 and do that grind, present the good and the bad and use words in actual sentences instead of just spouting exaggerated and unbalanced shit and you get credibility.

Who would have thought it?

Priceless indeed that you think your trolling is on par with Peon's review.

 If you like we can go back to the threads where People here were pointing near all the same exact things  and you and others attacked them ..(I dont think you want to do that )

  There actually some very long a detailed constructive criticism here that was disregarded by the Glee Club ..

  But you just keep on backpedaling thru the New World shit .. That we all told you was there 6 + weeks ago ..

 Like i said the smart kids figured this shit out in a week

  The Other kids need it explained to them by Lazy Peon 6+ weeks later..

  We should all strive to Not be the Other kid..

 

I kind of wish you would. I'd love to see all the constructive criticism being ignored. I remember a lot of petty whining about the character creator not having enough options, asset reuse (like we see in every MMO) and, of course, mobs. Even then, none of it was outright ignored. Many of us made counterpoints and discussions were had. I guess if you fail to change someone's mind it's because they just ignored you?

Not saying there wasn't any legitimate criticism. I can remember one post about the game becoming very top heavy and it being difficult to find people at lower levels, and I completely agreed. Before all the bugs and the issues with the economy longevity was my biggest concern, and there were a lot of people around here that felt the same.

The only person around here who was unwilling to listen to any criticism was Jean, and no one has to worry about him anymore. 

I don't know why you've climbed up on such a high horse lately. The only actual criticism I've seen from you was about the combat, beyond that you liked it enough early on to give away several copies.

The bugs, the dupes, the problems with the economy and end game, none of that was brought up by you or hardly anyone else around here before it was in the news. I'd wager the "Glee Club" has far more constructive criticism than you do.

Laugh at the game struggling and possibly dying all you want. But, don't act like you were some prophet that no one would listen to. 

1.heh  .. Jean is here ...

 2.. I complained after 1 week in various threads about .

    A. Combat

    B. Lack of Mob variety

    C. RvR hrmm set up and Instanced ..

    D. Harvesting generic and Boring.

    E. Lack of Combat Skills ..

    F.  Performance in RvR

    G.Fishing is Shit

    H.Small Pop 2000

    I.Questing is Shit

    J.AH is useless.

    K. etc ..

    And i defy anyone to go back into any of threads and find the catalyst of any pissing contest ..

 It always came from people telling others..

  "Go back to wow"

  " maybe you should go back to your game with crappy rotations"

   " Hey maybe you should return to your instant gratification FPS"

               for ex..

   The passive/aggressive insults , from a small clique here that if anyone ever says anything critical of there newest Internet girlfriend the band of angry little hemorrhoids , just insults calls names and runs away, while the pat each other on the back .. ..

   Jean being the perfect example of that .. and what got him banned ..

  I am the last person that ever wants to see any game fail and really wanted NW to succeed , but as i posted my concerns here i was attacked .. So i will piss back .. Dont matter to me , I got all the time in the world .. Gets kinda funny after a while , and now even funnier watching the backwalking, excuse making ,goal post moving , and even that was predicted would happen ..(good Job Klash)

   White Knighting never ends well .. That is the root of all of this ..

   

   

I thought the fishing was pretty  good compared to most other games

Your list looks like 85% of all the mmorpg’s I have ever played.

Just saying.

It's really more of me thing , As I have bass fished my entire life ( I'm quite good at it also), and I do play a lot of fishing games on my PC (Fishing Sim World Pro Tour) is the best fishing game made to date and it's not even close.I actually provided alot of feedback in bass and how they fight during development was very cool to see them make the changes .Pretty impressive when a game can create realism as well as they have .. Anyway so I kinda frown on all mmo fishing.. in a way.. 


The rest of the list we could discuss if ya want , I stand by each of those points .

Rungar

Well i dont think fishing in mmo's would ever be able to compete with a standalone game but you either like things or you dont. 

for me AGS has pretty much unlimited funding and new world was the best they could come up with. 

as i've said before this should of been a showcase of what's possible. Instead we got yet another formulaic EQ clone cash grab with action combat and many many many poorly thought out and poorly implemented design aspects. 

All things considered I stand by my 3 rating for the game. It works and it looks pretty. Zero of that three goes to the design team. 

ConstantineMerus

I, from a very peaceful country, watching Americans fight over a game then over a review. You guys really need Trump back. At least you had a worthy cause to gouge each other's eyes out. 

Scot

ConstantineMerus said:

I, from a very peaceful country, watching Americans fight over a game then over a review. You guys really need Trump back. At least you had a worthy cause to gouge each other's eyes out. 

They do like a ding dong, but then the best sparing comes with posters in your own country, it feels more personal that way.

laserit

Scorchien said:

laserit said:

Scorchien said:

Stizzled said:

Scorchien said:

Iselin said:

Scorchien said:

The irony that most all of his complaints many here complained about here for weeks and we were told , we didnt know what we were talking about ..

We  Were wrong ...

 we are playing wrong ..

  we are counting wrong

   we have bad pcs

     we are haters..

      we are on bad servers..

      

      BUt ohh LAzy Peon says it  and Now .. its word .. lmfao ..priceless..

 Its good to see peoples eyes opening to this mess of a game altho it certainingly took some far longer than others ..

 Ya know what they say .. " It takes takes the dimmest Bulbs in the Box far longer to shine enough light on a problem to see it "

 

Live and learn.

You put in the time and actually play it to 60 and do that grind, present the good and the bad and use words in actual sentences instead of just spouting exaggerated and unbalanced shit and you get credibility.

Who would have thought it?

Priceless indeed that you think your trolling is on par with Peon's review.

 If you like we can go back to the threads where People here were pointing near all the same exact things  and you and others attacked them ..(I dont think you want to do that )

  There actually some very long a detailed constructive criticism here that was disregarded by the Glee Club ..

  But you just keep on backpedaling thru the New World shit .. That we all told you was there 6 + weeks ago ..

 Like i said the smart kids figured this shit out in a week

  The Other kids need it explained to them by Lazy Peon 6+ weeks later..

  We should all strive to Not be the Other kid..

 

I kind of wish you would. I'd love to see all the constructive criticism being ignored. I remember a lot of petty whining about the character creator not having enough options, asset reuse (like we see in every MMO) and, of course, mobs. Even then, none of it was outright ignored. Many of us made counterpoints and discussions were had. I guess if you fail to change someone's mind it's because they just ignored you?

Not saying there wasn't any legitimate criticism. I can remember one post about the game becoming very top heavy and it being difficult to find people at lower levels, and I completely agreed. Before all the bugs and the issues with the economy longevity was my biggest concern, and there were a lot of people around here that felt the same.

The only person around here who was unwilling to listen to any criticism was Jean, and no one has to worry about him anymore. 

I don't know why you've climbed up on such a high horse lately. The only actual criticism I've seen from you was about the combat, beyond that you liked it enough early on to give away several copies.

The bugs, the dupes, the problems with the economy and end game, none of that was brought up by you or hardly anyone else around here before it was in the news. I'd wager the "Glee Club" has far more constructive criticism than you do.

Laugh at the game struggling and possibly dying all you want. But, don't act like you were some prophet that no one would listen to. 

1.heh  .. Jean is here ...

 2.. I complained after 1 week in various threads about .

    A. Combat

    B. Lack of Mob variety

    C. RvR hrmm set up and Instanced ..

    D. Harvesting generic and Boring.

    E. Lack of Combat Skills ..

    F.  Performance in RvR

    G.Fishing is Shit

    H.Small Pop 2000

    I.Questing is Shit

    J.AH is useless.

    K. etc ..

    And i defy anyone to go back into any of threads and find the catalyst of any pissing contest ..

 It always came from people telling others..

  "Go back to wow"

  " maybe you should go back to your game with crappy rotations"

   " Hey maybe you should return to your instant gratification FPS"

               for ex..

   The passive/aggressive insults , from a small clique here that if anyone ever says anything critical of there newest Internet girlfriend the band of angry little hemorrhoids , just insults calls names and runs away, while the pat each other on the back .. ..

   Jean being the perfect example of that .. and what got him banned ..

  I am the last person that ever wants to see any game fail and really wanted NW to succeed , but as i posted my concerns here i was attacked .. So i will piss back .. Dont matter to me , I got all the time in the world .. Gets kinda funny after a while , and now even funnier watching the backwalking, excuse making ,goal post moving , and even that was predicted would happen ..(good Job Klash)

   White Knighting never ends well .. That is the root of all of this ..

   

   

I thought the fishing was pretty  good compared to most other games

Your list looks like 85% of all the mmorpg’s I have ever played.

Just saying.

It's really more of me thing , As I have bass fished my entire life ( I'm quite good at it also), and I do play a lot of fishing games on my PC (Fishing Sim World Pro Tour) is the best fishing game made to date and it's not even close.I actually provided alot of feedback in bass and how they fight during development was very cool to see them make the changes .Pretty impressive when a game can create realism as well as they have .. Anyway so I kinda frown on all mmo fishing.. in a way.. 


The rest of the list we could discuss if ya want , I stand by each of those points .

How’s the dragon slaying in those games? I like fishing too, I’ve got a million places to fish around here. One thing I’ve found with fishing games is that some can be quite fun but when it comes to representing the real thing, we’ll I’ve go a golf game you can try. 

nurso

Rungar said:

well losing ~75% of your players within one month of launch of a mmo (that actually works!) is extreme. 

I asked in another thread if this is a usual player loss in MMORPGs... because I've read a few times now that such a drop is common in MMORPGs.

Scot

nurso said:

Rungar said:

well losing ~75% of your players within one month of launch of a mmo (that actually works!) is extreme. 

I asked in another thread if this is a usual player loss in MMORPGs... because I've read a few times now that such a drop is common in MMORPGs.

Such a drop is not common it is a big fall off. But revenue model plays a part in this, B2P is the most likely model to see a drop of. With F2P players come and go at the drop of a hat, subscription tends to put of people joining but aids retention (less so in the medium to long term), with B2P players like to feel they have 'got their monies worth' and then go if still not happy. 

Rungar

while all games, mmo or not, suffer initial playerbase decline this isnt normal for a mmo IMO and it isnt finished yet either as its still declining. Seems to me it was bought because it was Amazon and no other reason and then quickly shelved by most like it was a single player game. 

usually its a 3 month test, not one month. I would wager the NW population will level off soon around the ~150k concurrent mark which is better than any mmo currently offered by steam such as Final Fantasy or Elder Scrolls though those games are offered multiplatform so its not a fair/direct comparison as the steam numbers only represent about 1/3 of total players for those other games.   

so retention in NW is very bad based on total sales, but "ok" based against other older mmo's on the market. 
 

Kyleran

blueturtle13 said:

Theocritus said:

blueturtle13 said:

I feel people should own their likes while being aware of their likes faults.
If you like a game, own it. Warts and all it is still ok to like a game that has issues. I see dupes and payment issues and technical issues to this day with 20 year old games. It never really ends.
Just be honest about the game without over doing it from either side.
I have liked NW since (before) launch and still do. Yes it has issues but I dont care. I like it. The sky is not falling in my world but it is not the second coming of the genre. I am ok with that.
On the other side, if you do not like the game or the issues outweigh your like, own that too. Yet dont beat it into the ground and beat your chest like you are a gaming prophet You just come across weak minded and ego fragile. Say your peace and walk off.   

White knights and trolls are the same type people with different optics.
They are the chicken littles and fervant evangelics of the gaming world.
Neither will admit they 'over do' anything.
They are both zeolots and that is harmful for the genre on both ends.  
Which in reality comes across as comical to anyone with a rational mind that removes emotion and ego from the topic.
These are just games for the vast majority of people in the world, nothing more. 
Why reveal an ugly side of your character in regards to them? 
Game on friends.  
 

Sounds alot like our politics today....Extremists on both sides ruin everything.

Sadly true. 

ConstantineMerus

What is this "Discord" you young chaps are talking about?

Ungood

Scorchien said:

The irony that most all of his complaints many here complained about here for weeks and we were told , we didnt know what we were talking about ..

We  Were wrong ...

 we are playing wrong ..

  we are counting wrong

   we have bad pcs

     we are haters..

      we are on bad servers..

      

      BUt ohh LAzy Peon says it  and Now .. its word .. lmfao ..priceless..

 Its good to see peoples eyes opening to this mess of a game altho it certainingly took some far longer than others ..

 Ya know what they say .. " It takes takes the dimmest Bulbs in the Box far longer to shine enough light on a problem to see it "

 

some people can take a bite of a shit sammich, and realize it's shit.

Others need to eat the whole sammich.

LOL.

But.. since I never played the game, I'll still extend my hand in congrats for being right.

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Ungood

Wargfoot said:

I think the New World release brings to the fore some of the additional problems with releasing a PvP-centric game.   In just kicking this around I've come up with a few bullet points that seem important.

• Balance is key in PvP unlike it is in PvE.  You may have the meta in a PvE game but you're not stomping on other players.   You really have to nail balance in a PvP game - which isn't so bad if it is something like Unreal Tournament or Battlefield - but in an MMORPG it has to be balanced across PvE as well, and that is tough.
• I know some truly great PvP players, but on the whole, the community attracts the worst of the worst.  So right out of the gate you're dealing with a community that has some of the most destructive members imaginable.
• In a highly competitive environment things like gold duplication bugs and weapon exploits, although bad in PvE game, are so much worse in a PvP title.
• It totally makes sense that a PvP customer is going to want to get to PvP content as quickly as possible.   This is almost exactly the opposite mindset of the PvE players who've a tendency (in my experience) to spend more time stopping and smelling the roses.  How do you develop for both types of players in the same game?  I don't think you do.

Amazon probably should have gained some institutional knowledge by devloping a successful PvE title first.

I think you are on to something.. that PvP MMO's, do not attract actual PvP players, people looking for a PvP game, where skill of the player shines on the battlefield, hence it being Player vs Player, as opposed to Toon vs Toon, which brings us PvP in MMO's where the combat is mainly Toon vs Toon, and this seems to attract the worst kinds of people.

But, even with that aside, the whole studio was a train wreck that seemed hell bent to not learn anything from what anyone and everyone else already had to deal with, for better or worse, they seemed determined to make all their own mistakes on this, and, bless them, that held true up to launch and now into the live game.

Slapshot1188

Wargfoot said:

I think the New World release brings to the fore some of the additional problems with releasing a PvP-centric game.   In just kicking this around I've come up with a few bullet points that seem important.

• Balance is key in PvP unlike it is in PvE.  You may have the meta in a PvE game but you're not stomping on other players.   You really have to nail balance in a PvP game - which isn't so bad if it is something like Unreal Tournament or Battlefield - but in an MMORPG it has to be balanced across PvE as well, and that is tough.
• I know some truly great PvP players, but on the whole, the community attracts the worst of the worst.  So right out of the gate you're dealing with a community that has some of the most destructive members imaginable.
• In a highly competitive environment things like gold duplication bugs and weapon exploits, although bad in PvE game, are so much worse in a PvP title.
• It totally makes sense that a PvP customer is going to want to get to PvP content as quickly as possible.   This is almost exactly the opposite mindset of the PvE players who've a tendency (in my experience) to spend more time stopping and smelling the roses.  How do you develop for both types of players in the same game?  I don't think you do.

Amazon probably should have gained some institutional knowledge by devloping a successful PvE title first.

I agree with some of that (although I believe there are plenty of "competitive" PvE players that push through content as fast as they can for bragging rights).

This wasn't just a PvP game.  It's about territory control and when people put their blood, sweat and tears into their territory... many will quit when they lose it. That's just human nature.   What made this so much worse though was that many territories were lost due to massive exploits.

The WARS are also far too frequent (as are invasions) and they just lose their appeal after a while.  At the start folks were screaming to be selected for a WAR.  Now it's a chore.

I still like the game and setting overall, but it needed far longer in incubation.  My friends have already started to peel off.  I mean, one is a furniture maker and he hasn't been able to really play at all for over a week since they STILL have furniture transfer turned off.   His bank is full and so is he... 

ConstantineMerus

tzervo said:

ConstantineMerus said:

What is this "Discord" you young chaps are talking about?

I think it's some sort of dance music...

Lazlo? Is that you my old friend? 

kitarad

I watched that video and it boggles my mind that considering the combined experience of the developers that they have made these mistakes. Some of them are so rookie it is laughable. 

I am not interested in this game and I didn't follow the development but this video was very well done and you can see that this guy really played the game as he is able to point out the problems with great detail.

I feel that the developers tried some systems without actually considering the impact but with the wealth of experience behind them from other games they were involved in before coming to Amazon Game Studios they should have been able to realise the pitfalls immediately. How could this have gone into the game in the form they took. It is obvious these were very poorly designed systems. 

I supposed tried and true has its value .

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laserit

Ungood said:

Scorchien said:

The irony that most all of his complaints many here complained about here for weeks and we were told , we didnt know what we were talking about ..

We  Were wrong ...

 we are playing wrong ..

  we are counting wrong

   we have bad pcs

     we are haters..

      we are on bad servers..

      

      BUt ohh LAzy Peon says it  and Now .. its word .. lmfao ..priceless..

 Its good to see peoples eyes opening to this mess of a game altho it certainingly took some far longer than others ..

 Ya know what they say .. " It takes takes the dimmest Bulbs in the Box far longer to shine enough light on a problem to see it "

 

some people can take a bite of a shit sammich, and realize it's shit.

Others need to eat the whole sammich.

LOL.

But.. since I never played the game, I'll still extend my hand in congrats for 

Geeky

Iselin said:

Scorchien said:

The irony that most all of his complaints many here complained about here for weeks and we were told , we didnt know what we were talking about ..

We  Were wrong ...

 we are playing wrong ..

  we are counting wrong

   we have bad pcs

     we are haters..

      we are on bad servers..

      

      BUt ohh LAzy Peon says it  and Now .. its word .. lmfao ..priceless..

 Its good to see peoples eyes opening to this mess of a game altho it certainingly took some far longer than others ..

 Ya know what they say .. " It takes takes the dimmest Bulbs in the Box far longer to shine enough light on a problem to see it "

 

Live and learn.

You put in the time and actually play it to 60 and do that grind, present the good and the bad and use words in actual sentences instead of just spouting exaggerated and unbalanced shit and you get credibility.

Who would have thought it?

Priceless indeed that you think your trolling is on par with Peon's review.

You made a good counter point here.  [mod edit]

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kitarad said:

I watched that video and it boggles my mind that considering the combined experience of the developers that they have made these mistakes. Some of them are so rookie it is laughable. 

I am not interested in this game and I didn't follow the development but this video was very well done and you can see that this guy really played the game as he is able to point out the problems with great detail.

I feel that the developers tried some systems without actually considering the impact but with the wealth of experience behind them from other games they were involved in before coming to Amazon Game Studios they should have been able to realise the pitfalls immediately. How could this have gone into the game in the form they took. It is obvious these were very poorly designed systems. 

I supposed tried and true has its value .

I don't know about anyone else, but the number of mistakes, guffaws, and outright errors that the community is reporting about this particular game makes me question the veracity of the claims of 'experience of the developers'.