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"Epic Games Store will welcome games that make use of blockchain tech"

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  • LinifLinif Member UncommonPosts: 338
    bcbully said:
    Linif said:
    bcbully said:
    I'm absolutely stunned that valve could make such a collosal blunder. There will be cases studies done on this decision. "How Valve lost the video game platform war".


    This is a hard one for me.

    Blockchain games, from my limited and recent knowledge, come in a limited variety of shapes and sizes. Personally, I pigeonhole them alongside gambling software etc. Core concept: Spend money to make money, playing games, right?

    Epic Games Launcher MAY very well be the gaming platform, on PC, with the largest child audience (I have neither the numbers for this or the evidence. Purely using the, admittedly flawed, logic that Fortnite uses the platform). So let's pretend for just a moment I'm not making wild assumptions.

    How would this affect those children using the platform, giving them possible access to blockchain games? Okay, parental guidance and restrictions will play a part, but we all know that doesn't stop it entirely.

    Is it the right move, considering the nature of these blockchain games, to be included on this platform?

    I really don't think so.
    lol as you become more familiar with blockchains and crypto things wont seems so shady and suspecious. ;)

    remeber the internet was only for criminals and porn. 
    That's oddly dismissive of what, I feel, is a legitimate concern. Steam, the largest gaming platform on PC, has outright blocked cryptocurrency and NFT games.

    Do you feel the concern is unwarranted? Steam are a big company and I doubt they'd be in the business of turning away legitimate means of making money if there weren't any massive concerns about the practice?
    Asm0deus
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,355
    edited October 2021
    Realistically, it's going to be quite a while before we have the full launch of a crypto-game that isn't the sort of shovelware that Steam commonly offers and Epic doesn't.  If a few years from now, an AAA game from an established, reputable game developer launches and allows players to trade in-game items akin to Diablo III's RMT, but this time using blockchain under the hood, why shouldn't Epic sell that game?  Steam would probably sell it, too, if given the chance.

    Until the launch of a blockchain game where the game part of the game is a bigger focus than the blockchain part, Epic's stance on whether or not they would host a type of game that doesn't exist is irrelevant.  Steam's stance is immediately relevant, as they already host a lot no-budget games made by a single person in his free time.
    Sandmanjw[Deleted User]Asm0deus
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    edited October 2021
    Linif said:
    bcbully said:
    Linif said:
    bcbully said:
    I'm absolutely stunned that valve could make such a collosal blunder. There will be cases studies done on this decision. "How Valve lost the video game platform war".


    This is a hard one for me.

    Blockchain games, from my limited and recent knowledge, come in a limited variety of shapes and sizes. Personally, I pigeonhole them alongside gambling software etc. Core concept: Spend money to make money, playing games, right?

    Epic Games Launcher MAY very well be the gaming platform, on PC, with the largest child audience (I have neither the numbers for this or the evidence. Purely using the, admittedly flawed, logic that Fortnite uses the platform). So let's pretend for just a moment I'm not making wild assumptions.

    How would this affect those children using the platform, giving them possible access to blockchain games? Okay, parental guidance and restrictions will play a part, but we all know that doesn't stop it entirely.

    Is it the right move, considering the nature of these blockchain games, to be included on this platform?

    I really don't think so.
    lol as you become more familiar with blockchains and crypto things wont seems so shady and suspecious. ;)

    remeber the internet was only for criminals and porn. 
    That's oddly dismissive of what, I feel, is a legitimate concern. Steam, the largest gaming platform on PC, has outright blocked cryptocurrency and NFT games.

    Do you feel the concern is unwarranted? Steam are a big company and I doubt they'd be in the business of turning away legitimate means of making money if there weren't any massive concerns about the practice?
    Yes I do. 

    I was dismissed most of what was said because stated you look at blockchain games as gambling software. I rember having the same feelings about bitcoin and crypto in general back in 2017. Those feelings came from strange places and were founded in 0 understanding. 

    I remeber feeling good when I was sitting at my computer and heard the news that bitcoin crashed for 18k to under 8k. I laughed and said to myself I knew it was a scam. Your feelings are ok, it's good to be skeptical. Now go learn.

    I look at blockchain games the same way I look at mmorpgs and mmos. I look for every single thing I look for in the former and ask myself does the latter hae it.  At this point the mmorpgs do not, there are some in production that will though. The mmos are getting much closer. 

    Hearth Stone on Blizzards severs or Hearth Stone on the blockchain. Pokemon on nintendo servers or pokemon on the blockchain. Kids trading cards, kids trading NFTs.
    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Ungood said:
    laserit said:
    Ungood said:
    Scot said:
    I love the way they talk about "age rated by an appropriate group", as if in this day and age kids are not finding ways to play any game they please and that's on Epic, Steam, wherever. 
    Hustler used to say age restricted as well.. like kids didn't get their hands on nudie mags.

    Sometimes you gotta say it, because the law says, you gotta say it.
    Remember Gallery? ;)
    .... No.

    Can you refresh my mind.
    Hustler but much naughtier. I'm remembering back to my virgin-teen years in the 1970's ;)
    Ungood

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • LinifLinif Member UncommonPosts: 338
    bcbully said:
    Linif said:
    bcbully said:
    Linif said:
    bcbully said:
    I'm absolutely stunned that valve could make such a collosal blunder. There will be cases studies done on this decision. "How Valve lost the video game platform war".


    This is a hard one for me.

    Blockchain games, from my limited and recent knowledge, come in a limited variety of shapes and sizes. Personally, I pigeonhole them alongside gambling software etc. Core concept: Spend money to make money, playing games, right?

    Epic Games Launcher MAY very well be the gaming platform, on PC, with the largest child audience (I have neither the numbers for this or the evidence. Purely using the, admittedly flawed, logic that Fortnite uses the platform). So let's pretend for just a moment I'm not making wild assumptions.

    How would this affect those children using the platform, giving them possible access to blockchain games? Okay, parental guidance and restrictions will play a part, but we all know that doesn't stop it entirely.

    Is it the right move, considering the nature of these blockchain games, to be included on this platform?

    I really don't think so.
    lol as you become more familiar with blockchains and crypto things wont seems so shady and suspecious. ;)

    remeber the internet was only for criminals and porn. 
    That's oddly dismissive of what, I feel, is a legitimate concern. Steam, the largest gaming platform on PC, has outright blocked cryptocurrency and NFT games.

    Do you feel the concern is unwarranted? Steam are a big company and I doubt they'd be in the business of turning away legitimate means of making money if there weren't any massive concerns about the practice?
    Yes I do. 

    I was dismissed most of what was said because stated you look at blockchain games as gambling software. I rember having the same feelings about bitcoin and crypto in general back in 2017. Those feelings came from strange places and were founded in 0 understanding. 

    I remeber feeling good when I was sitting at my computer and heard the news that bitcoin crashed for 18k to under 8k. I laughed and said to myself I knew it was a scam. Your feelings are ok, it's good to be skeptical. Now go learn.

    I look at blockchain games the same way I look at mmorpgs and mmos. I look for every single thing I look for in the former and ask myself does the latter hae it.  At this point the mmorpgs do not, there are some in production that will though. The mmos are getting much closer. 

    Hearth Stone on Blizzards severs or Hearth Stone on the blockchain. Pokemon on nintendo servers or pokemon on the blockchain. Kids trading cards, kids trading NFTs.
    I shall do my best to learn more about these things, I'm open to the ideas.

    Last question in that case. Zed Run is probably MY most prolific choice of what blockchain games are at the moment, which is why it's being pigeonholed as gambling software. Do you consider Zed Run to be gambling?

    Zed Run is my only "off-the-top" example of a Blockchain game, so I think I'll do more research into what else is out there.
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Ungood said:
    laserit said:
    Ungood said:
    Scot said:
    I love the way they talk about "age rated by an appropriate group", as if in this day and age kids are not finding ways to play any game they please and that's on Epic, Steam, wherever. 
    Hustler used to say age restricted as well.. like kids didn't get their hands on nudie mags.

    Sometimes you gotta say it, because the law says, you gotta say it.
    Remember Gallery? ;)
    .... No.

    Can you refresh my mind.
    Of course - where is your F5 key?

    Sorry couldn't resist :|
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,532
    Ungood said:
    laserit said:
    Ungood said:
    Scot said:
    I love the way they talk about "age rated by an appropriate group", as if in this day and age kids are not finding ways to play any game they please and that's on Epic, Steam, wherever. 
    Hustler used to say age restricted as well.. like kids didn't get their hands on nudie mags.

    Sometimes you gotta say it, because the law says, you gotta say it.
    Remember Gallery? ;)
    .... No.

    Can you refresh my mind.
    Of course - where is your F5 key?

    Sorry couldn't resist :|

    ConstantineMeruskitarad
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • SandmanjwSandmanjw Member RarePosts: 527
    edited October 2021
    All seems to be a whole lot of nonsense about nothing.

    The world still does not know how to deal with crypto, let alone adding it to gaming.

    All it would take is a few countries to go after crypto's hard and ban them, to gen up enough controversy to keep people away.

    Some people will make a killing, others will lose everything. Same thing for game companies. Not only are they taking a risk that people will play their games, they are adding on top, the uncertainty of blockchain too. 

    And yes, this is a huge gamble in every sense. We are talking about little 1's and 0's trying to be the same as gold silver or other countries currency's. That is a big bet when the majority of them are used by the more shady side of avoiding what all the countries live on...TAXES, and CONTROL.  

    Hard to believe that those same countries will allow this to continue for long before they start laying their bureaucracies on it.  Which could make it all crash or maybe limp along....hence the huge gamble.

    The future of gaming is crazy enough, add on blockchain and crypto, and might as well use one of those shake up 8 ball toys to see what is gonna happen.

    I am leaning on Steams side so far, wait and see before taking the plunge. A no now does not mean no forever.  
    Post edited by Sandmanjw on
    bcbullyAsm0deus
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    @Linif couldn't quote because the bug

    I personally don't. A lot here do based on my Zed Run thread.

    I see the game as a sport, e-sport yeah kind of, more so a "real life" (metaverse) sport. I train, race and breed them. Stable Simulator maybe lol idk, fun to me.

    I look at gambling like going to a track and betting a parlay . You can't bet on these horses only enter them in races. 

    You do have the ability to try and play a numbers game I think just buy horses in mass and spam races, but idk how that would turn out probably not well. 
    Linif
    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    edited October 2021
    Sandmanjw said:
    All seems to be a whole lot of nonsense about nothing.

    The world still does not know how to deal with crypto, let alone adding it to gaming.

    All it would take is a few countries to go after crypto's hard and ban them, to gen up enough controversy to keep people away.

    Some people will make a killing, others will lose everything. Same thing game for game companies. Not only are they taking a risk that people will play their games, they are adding on top, the uncertainty of blockchain too. 

    And yes, this is a huge gamble in every sense. We are talking about little 1's and 0's trying to be the same as gold silver or other countries currency's. That is a big bet when the majority of them are used by the more shady side of avoiding what all the countries live on...TAXES, and CONTROL.  

    Hard to believe that those same countries will allow this to continue for long before they start laying their bureaucracies on it.  Which could make it all crash or maybe limp along....hence the huge gamble.

    The future of gaming is crazy enough, add on blockchain and crypto, and might as well use one of those shake up 8 ball toys to see what is gonna happen.

    I am leaning on Steams side so far, wait and see before taking the plunge. A no now does not mean no forever.  
    Meanwhile companies and banks continue to build on Etherium, and the SEC just green lighted the first US (canada england already have) ETF that's going live on the NYSE monday or tuesday. 

    https://news.bitcoin.com/morgan-stanley-ceo-bitcoin-not-fad-crypto-not-going-away/

    Just fine for business, banking, and retirement funds, but to risky for video games? 
    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    laserit said:
    Ungood said:
    Scot said:
    I love the way they talk about "age rated by an appropriate group", as if in this day and age kids are not finding ways to play any game they please and that's on Epic, Steam, wherever. 
    Hustler used to say age restricted as well.. like kids didn't get their hands on nudie mags.

    Sometimes you gotta say it, because the law says, you gotta say it.
    Remember Gallery? ;)
    .... No.

    Can you refresh my mind.
    Of course - where is your F5 key?

    Sorry couldn't resist :|

    Well you are not that old then mate. Because the oldest trick is ctrl + alt + 3.14 :)
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • cameltosiscameltosis Member LegendaryPosts: 3,707
    bcbully said:
    I'm absolutely stunned that valve could make such a collosal blunder. There will be cases studies done on this decision. "How Valve lost the video game platform war".


    Valve is covering their ass - crypto laws are still being written all around the world, some very restrictive, some more open. Why would Valve want to get stuck in that mess when there are so few games that use crypto?

    My guess is that it would cost Valve more in lawyers fees than they would earn from sales commission on crypto games.


    Plus, nothing to say that Valve can't change their mind in the future, once the new laws are clear.




    As for whether it is a collosal blunder?

    Lol, no. Not a blunder at all, quite sensible really, and certainly not collosal. Gamers don't give a shit about the technology behind the games, they just want something fun to play. Blockchain technology, so far, offers absolutely nothing when it comes to gameplay, its just an alternative database structure.

    The games that use blockchain tech, but no crpyto, will undoubtedly be allowed on Steam. The ones that use crypto will only ever appeal to a very small niche, so valve isn't gonna lose out on much. Nearly all gamers play games to have fun, very few care about making money when they game. There may come a time in the future where that changes, and we can have games that are both very fun and you can make money. but, we're not there yet, not even close.

    Asm0deus
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,509
    Scot said:
    Ungood said:
    Scot said:
    I love the way they talk about "age rated by an appropriate group", as if in this day and age kids are not finding ways to play any game they please and that's on Epic, Steam, wherever. 
    Hustler used to say age restricted as well.. like kids didn't get their hands on nudie mags.

    Sometimes you gotta say it, because the law says, you gotta say it.
    Sure, but I would suggest it is easier to get games which are rated at a higher age group today than it was getting the top shelf mags back in the day.
    Naw, when I was 14 I used to pick up my nudie mags from the same store which sold me cigarettes.

    ;)

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,509
    bcbully said:
    Sandmanjw said:
    All seems to be a whole lot of nonsense about nothing.

    The world still does not know how to deal with crypto, let alone adding it to gaming.

    All it would take is a few countries to go after crypto's hard and ban them, to gen up enough controversy to keep people away.

    Some people will make a killing, others will lose everything. Same thing game for game companies. Not only are they taking a risk that people will play their games, they are adding on top, the uncertainty of blockchain too. 

    And yes, this is a huge gamble in every sense. We are talking about little 1's and 0's trying to be the same as gold silver or other countries currency's. That is a big bet when the majority of them are used by the more shady side of avoiding what all the countries live on...TAXES, and CONTROL.  

    Hard to believe that those same countries will allow this to continue for long before they start laying their bureaucracies on it.  Which could make it all crash or maybe limp along....hence the huge gamble.

    The future of gaming is crazy enough, add on blockchain and crypto, and might as well use one of those shake up 8 ball toys to see what is gonna happen.

    I am leaning on Steams side so far, wait and see before taking the plunge. A no now does not mean no forever.  
    Meanwhile companies and banks continue to build on Etherium, and the SEC just green lighted the first US (canada england already have) ETF that's going live on the NYSE monday or tuesday. 

    https://news.bitcoin.com/morgan-stanley-ceo-bitcoin-not-fad-crypto-not-going-away/

    Just fine for business, banking, and retirement funds, but to risky for video games? 
    Great article, and yes Etherium has strong backers in the finance industry for several reasons while Bitcoin, not so much.

    "He was asked whether he was “still in the Jamie Dimon’s category of ‘bitcoin is worthless'” or whether he saw value in the cryptocurrency. Dimon, the CEO of global investment bank JPMorgan, said earlier this week: “I personally think that bitcoin is worthless.” He also questioned the limited supply of the cryptocurrency."


    bcbully

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,355
    bcbully said:
    @Linif couldn't quote because the bug

    I personally don't. A lot here do based on my Zed Run thread.

    I see the game as a sport, e-sport yeah kind of, more so a "real life" (metaverse) sport. I train, race and breed them. Stable Simulator maybe lol idk, fun to me.

    I look at gambling like going to a track and betting a parlay . You can't bet on these horses only enter them in races. 

    You do have the ability to try and play a numbers game I think just buy horses in mass and spam races, but idk how that would turn out probably not well. 
    If you go golfing with a friend and bet $100 on who will win, that's still gambling.
    KyleranAsm0deus
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    edited October 2021
    Kyleran said:
    bcbully said:
    Sandmanjw said:
    All seems to be a whole lot of nonsense about nothing.

    The world still does not know how to deal with crypto, let alone adding it to gaming.

    All it would take is a few countries to go after crypto's hard and ban them, to gen up enough controversy to keep people away.

    Some people will make a killing, others will lose everything. Same thing game for game companies. Not only are they taking a risk that people will play their games, they are adding on top, the uncertainty of blockchain too. 

    And yes, this is a huge gamble in every sense. We are talking about little 1's and 0's trying to be the same as gold silver or other countries currency's. That is a big bet when the majority of them are used by the more shady side of avoiding what all the countries live on...TAXES, and CONTROL.  

    Hard to believe that those same countries will allow this to continue for long before they start laying their bureaucracies on it.  Which could make it all crash or maybe limp along....hence the huge gamble.

    The future of gaming is crazy enough, add on blockchain and crypto, and might as well use one of those shake up 8 ball toys to see what is gonna happen.

    I am leaning on Steams side so far, wait and see before taking the plunge. A no now does not mean no forever.  
    Meanwhile companies and banks continue to build on Etherium, and the SEC just green lighted the first US (canada england already have) ETF that's going live on the NYSE monday or tuesday. 

    https://news.bitcoin.com/morgan-stanley-ceo-bitcoin-not-fad-crypto-not-going-away/

    Just fine for business, banking, and retirement funds, but to risky for video games? 
    Great article, and yes Etherium has strong backers in the finance industry for several reasons while Bitcoin, not so much.

    "He was asked whether he was “still in the Jamie Dimon’s category of ‘bitcoin is worthless'” or whether he saw value in the cryptocurrency. Dimon, the CEO of global investment bank JPMorgan, said earlier this week: “I personally think that bitcoin is worthless.” He also questioned the limited supply of the cryptocurrency."


    Awesome debate here. Lots of info for new and old.

    It just popped up last night about 2am EST on twitter spaces. 

    Bitcoin Maxi's vs Mark Cuban (Etherium and Polygon). I think you'll enjoy it.

    edit- he even talks about Axie at 59 min! 




    Post edited by bcbully on
    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    laserit said:
    Ungood said:
    Scot said:
    I love the way they talk about "age rated by an appropriate group", as if in this day and age kids are not finding ways to play any game they please and that's on Epic, Steam, wherever. 
    Hustler used to say age restricted as well.. like kids didn't get their hands on nudie mags.

    Sometimes you gotta say it, because the law says, you gotta say it.
    Remember Gallery? ;)
    .... No.

    Can you refresh my mind.
    Of course - where is your F5 key?

    Sorry couldn't resist :|

    Well you are not that old then mate. Because the oldest trick is ctrl + alt + 3.14 :)
    The oldest trick was trying to get the rats nest out of your tape recorder without destroying your favorite game ;)
    ConstantineMerusUngood

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    @Linif couldn't quote because the bug

    I personally don't. A lot here do based on my Zed Run thread.

    I see the game as a sport, e-sport yeah kind of, more so a "real life" (metaverse) sport. I train, race and breed them. Stable Simulator maybe lol idk, fun to me.

    I look at gambling like going to a track and betting a parlay . You can't bet on these horses only enter them in races. 

    You do have the ability to try and play a numbers game I think just buy horses in mass and spam races, but idk how that would turn out probably not well. 
    If you go golfing with a friend and bet $100 on who will win, that's still gambling.
    What do you think about the Red Devil AMD Radeon™ RX 6700XT 12GB GDDR6?


    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,355
    bcbully said:
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    @Linif couldn't quote because the bug

    I personally don't. A lot here do based on my Zed Run thread.

    I see the game as a sport, e-sport yeah kind of, more so a "real life" (metaverse) sport. I train, race and breed them. Stable Simulator maybe lol idk, fun to me.

    I look at gambling like going to a track and betting a parlay . You can't bet on these horses only enter them in races. 

    You do have the ability to try and play a numbers game I think just buy horses in mass and spam races, but idk how that would turn out probably not well. 
    If you go golfing with a friend and bet $100 on who will win, that's still gambling.
    What do you think about the Red Devil AMD Radeon™ RX 6700XT 12GB GDDR6?
    I think it's irrelevant to the topic at hand.  Are you looking at buying that card or something?  Because if so, it's already out of stock, as the Ethereum miners got to it while you stopped to ask.
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    edited October 2021
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    @Linif couldn't quote because the bug

    I personally don't. A lot here do based on my Zed Run thread.

    I see the game as a sport, e-sport yeah kind of, more so a "real life" (metaverse) sport. I train, race and breed them. Stable Simulator maybe lol idk, fun to me.

    I look at gambling like going to a track and betting a parlay . You can't bet on these horses only enter them in races. 

    You do have the ability to try and play a numbers game I think just buy horses in mass and spam races, but idk how that would turn out probably not well. 
    If you go golfing with a friend and bet $100 on who will win, that's still gambling.
    What do you think about the Red Devil AMD Radeon™ RX 6700XT 12GB GDDR6?
    I think it's irrelevant to the topic at hand.  Are you looking at buying that card or something?  Because if so, it's already out of stock, as the Ethereum miners got to it while you stopped to ask.
    I have one to get things up and running. I plan on grabbing 7 more over the next 2-3 months.


    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,355
    bcbully said:
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    @Linif couldn't quote because the bug

    I personally don't. A lot here do based on my Zed Run thread.

    I see the game as a sport, e-sport yeah kind of, more so a "real life" (metaverse) sport. I train, race and breed them. Stable Simulator maybe lol idk, fun to me.

    I look at gambling like going to a track and betting a parlay . You can't bet on these horses only enter them in races. 

    You do have the ability to try and play a numbers game I think just buy horses in mass and spam races, but idk how that would turn out probably not well. 
    If you go golfing with a friend and bet $100 on who will win, that's still gambling.
    What do you think about the Red Devil AMD Radeon™ RX 6700XT 12GB GDDR6?
    I think it's irrelevant to the topic at hand.  Are you looking at buying that card or something?  Because if so, it's already out of stock, as the Ethereum miners got to it while you stopped to ask.
    I have one to get things up and running. I plan on grabbing 7 more over the next 2-3 months.
    Are you saying that you're the sort of person who is causing the video card shortage for everyone else?
    [Deleted User]Kyleran
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    edited October 2021
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    Quizzical said:
    bcbully said:
    @Linif couldn't quote because the bug

    I personally don't. A lot here do based on my Zed Run thread.

    I see the game as a sport, e-sport yeah kind of, more so a "real life" (metaverse) sport. I train, race and breed them. Stable Simulator maybe lol idk, fun to me.

    I look at gambling like going to a track and betting a parlay . You can't bet on these horses only enter them in races. 

    You do have the ability to try and play a numbers game I think just buy horses in mass and spam races, but idk how that would turn out probably not well. 
    If you go golfing with a friend and bet $100 on who will win, that's still gambling.
    What do you think about the Red Devil AMD Radeon™ RX 6700XT 12GB GDDR6?
    I think it's irrelevant to the topic at hand.  Are you looking at buying that card or something?  Because if so, it's already out of stock, as the Ethereum miners got to it while you stopped to ask.
    I have one to get things up and running. I plan on grabbing 7 more over the next 2-3 months.
    Are you saying that you're the sort of person who is causing the video card shortage for everyone else?
    What I'm saying is I'm a gammer too and I've agreed with nothing you've said the last few months.

    Some of that ETH mined from those cards will go towards playing games and investing in new new ones. 

    Investing, not donating INVESTING. 

    I'm not the only one man. Millions of others across the world are doing the same.

    Do you think they care you think Zed is gambling? That they should not buy cards in mass?

    Do you think the developers of the games they are investing in care?


    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    edited October 2021
    When valve figures out how to get their cut the games will be allowed again.  
    mklinic
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,838
    edited October 2021
    delete
    "We see fundamentals and we ape in"
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,888
    When valve figures out how to get their cut the games will be allowed again.  
    I think it'll be more like when someone who actually matters to Valve makes a NFT game then they'll allow it. Valve likely doesn't want to be the giant corporation that has to worry about small indie teams using new kind of payment system. When someone like Electronic Arts wants to use new kinds of payments it could be different story.
     
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