Little underage buggers should be spending more hours in the factory working like dogs to generate products to sell to the Free World and make their Communist Overlords more powerful beyond imagination.
Costs a lot to build up a military to conquer the world!
I don't see how you prove someone is a minor or not? Every website I go to jsut has a "check here if you are over the age of 13" or something like that.....Have they created some sort of online ID whre they can accurately verify how old someone is? Also why not just go to older brother or uncle or some other relative and have them sign in for you? I'm sure there are a million ways around this.
From the article it appears a person has a fixed internet id....
It also urged the strict implementation of real-name registration and logins, saying that online game providers must not provide any form of game service to users who fail to register and log in using their real identifications.
Real world ID to get on the internet is okay by me. It would really curb dumb heads from screwing things up for everyone else.
It would be great if you could ban player XXXXX from a game for cheating and pre-ban him from new games as they're released. Do the same with gold spammers, etc.
Send these people back to the playgrounds to push people in to puddles and stuff... where they belong.
What if someone manages to get you banned from all games out of spite or by mistake? It is not that simple.
I think one of the main things about China is that this ID is also connected to their Social Security number there, so its kind of easy enough to weed out stuff like this given how intricate everything is over there. It is possible for something you suggested to happen but usually only if the person involved is selling their information, which they do sometimes to streamers to let them access some chinese specific stuff (I think I saw a streamer talking about buying someone's ID so they could play Judgment, a chinese only mmorpg).
ConstantineMerus said:No. But I really want the governments to fuck off when it comes down to stuff that is a personal choice and requires nothing but personal responsibility.
I love freedom as well; however, personal choice is an illusion. Every choice a person makes impacts those in the community.
Trivial Example: You'd think slurping down 64 oz. sodas all day long would be one's own personal choice with no impact on others until I have to sit next to the whale on a plane and his arse spills over into half my seat - or I have to pay for his health care - and so on.
Millions of children addicted to video games means millions of children who won't do well in school, who won't be contributing to society, who will be less healthy and will draw on the resources of the society as a whole.
I think the conversation would be more productive and about striking a balance - which is what we do in reality - but we have to stop pretending that personal choice impacts nobody else. In fact, it always does.
Yeah, like the guy who goes swimming despite the flag saying that swimming is dangerous, since it only puts himself in danger, right ? Except it also puts the people who are going to try to rescue him if something goes wrong in danger.
Many people sadly have that kind of reasoning.
Still the Chinese solution isn't the way to do it. How many parents conveniently use phones, tablets, the Internet and video games as a cheap baby sitter ? It's them who should slap their kid around the ears if he abuses video games, not the government.
I didn't say personal choices don't impact others. I said the answer is personal responsibility not governmental intervention. And depending on the amount of impact my personal choice has the government must intervene or not. Right now we are talking about listening to music all night. If I am playing it loud and disturbing my neighbors, yes, the government must intervene, but not when I have my headphones on. Don't think that's a made-up problem; a few years ago some governments actually looked into passing laws to decreasing the headphones volume to prevent the hearing damages loud music was causing to teenagers. It is like some countries have just turned into a nation of orphans without any parenting, discipling, or even simple advice passing whatsoever.
When a minor is playing too much video-games, or spending a lot on cash-shops; it is the parents' responsibility to address the issue, not the government's.
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ConstantineMerus said:No. But I really want the governments to fuck off when it comes down to stuff that is a personal choice and requires nothing but personal responsibility.
I love freedom as well; however, personal choice is an illusion. Every choice a person makes impacts those in the community.
Trivial Example: You'd think slurping down 64 oz. sodas all day long would be one's own personal choice with no impact on others until I have to sit next to the whale on a plane and his arse spills over into half my seat - or I have to pay for his health care - and so on.
Millions of children addicted to video games means millions of children who won't do well in school, who won't be contributing to society, who will be less healthy and will draw on the resources of the society as a whole.
I think the conversation would be more productive and about striking a balance - which is what we do in reality - but we have to stop pretending that personal choice impacts nobody else. In fact, it always does.
Yeah, like the guy who goes swimming despite the flag saying that swimming is dangerous, since it only puts himself in danger, right ? Except it also puts the people who are going to try to rescue him if something goes wrong in danger.
Many people sadly have that kind of reasoning.
Still the Chinese solution isn't the way to do it. How many parents conveniently use phones, tablets, the Internet and video games as a cheap baby sitter ? It's them who should slap their kid around the ears if he abuses video games, not the government.
My understanding from parents with children is that the baulk of parenting time is being with your child while they are online. That consumes more hours than anything else they themselves would call parenting. I was astonished, but there it is. TV an music are still where you can just switch something on and leave them to it.
So it was okay when you wanted governments to get involved and limit the loot-boxes, cash-shops, DLCs, etc. because "youngsters are addicted to gambling" but when the governments decide "youngsters are addicted to video-games" and limited their play time so then it is bad now eh?
Problem is most play embrace totalitarianism when it aligns with what they want, and oppose it when it doesn't.
Don't worry, all of this "video games are causing violence" will blossom into something awful in the west too. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. But someday for sure.
Meanwhile there are countries that treat their citizens like adults, and somehow, they don't have these bullshit problems along with their bullshit solutions.
But hey, most of people who have been nagging about loot-boxes are from countries that prostitution is illegal unless you film it, or you can star in porn and go to war when you are 18 but you can't have a fucking beer, then any limitation of alcohol is considered an act against mankind but not only should ban drugs, but you declared a fucking war on it.
You know why do you have those ridiculous laws? Because people before you were also hypocrites.
Don't get me wrong, I am not a libertarian or something, I am not that selfish. Or one of those guys who opposes any government program but supports wars, and calls the cops and asks the government to incarcerate or executive anyone who looks at them wrong. No. But I really want the governments to fuck off when it comes down to stuff that is a personal choice and requires nothing but personal responsibility.
I have to agree, but we do get people on here championing loot boxes in fact championing any way games can take money of us, to me that's more extraordinary. What I would like to see if this was done over here is equivalence, if you can only spend so much time on gaming then only so much time on social media. Time online is what needs looking at.
But the levels they seem to be setting are draconian, how would be seven year old self have got that raid done with only one hour in the evening?
I don't want government getting involved in direct controls. They should be running advertising campaigns to explain problems to parents, because it's the parents who have and own, lock stock and barrel, this responsibility.
On the other hand, "responsibility" and any form of ethical behavior (i.e. morals) have been tossed in exchange for "get mine" on such a wide scale that I wonder if there's even any hope left.
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Little underage buggers should be spending more hours in the factory working like dogs to generate products to sell to the Free World and make their Communist Overlords more powerful beyond imagination.
Costs a lot to build up a military to conquer the world!
I think one of the main things about China is that this ID is also connected to their Social Security number there, so its kind of easy enough to weed out stuff like this given how intricate everything is over there. It is possible for something you suggested to happen but usually only if the person involved is selling their information, which they do sometimes to streamers to let them access some chinese specific stuff (I think I saw a streamer talking about buying someone's ID so they could play Judgment, a chinese only mmorpg).
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When a minor is playing too much video-games, or spending a lot on cash-shops; it is the parents' responsibility to address the issue, not the government's.
https://biturl.top/rU7bY3
Beyond the shadows there's always light
They should be running advertising campaigns to explain problems to parents, because it's the parents who have and own, lock stock and barrel, this responsibility.
On the other hand, "responsibility" and any form of ethical behavior (i.e. morals) have been tossed in exchange for "get mine" on such a wide scale that I wonder if there's even any hope left.
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