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China drastically cuts down minors' access to online games

Online game providers can only offer one-hour services to minors from 8 p.m. to 9 p.m. on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays, as well as on official holidays.

Also: real name registrations and logins to be mandatory.

As reported by the official Chinese state-run news agency Xinhua.


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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,617
    How strong is the accreditation of the logins and does this mean they only get one hour a day Friday, Saturday and Sunday?
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,189
    The youth are already lying down finding life too hard for them , so now even the young are going to start giving up. Too draconian.

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Life in the totalitarian fast lane. Mao would be pleased.
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  • SandmanjwSandmanjw Member RarePosts: 531
    Iselin said:
    Life in the totalitarian fast lane. Mao would be pleased.
    Nanny state taken to the extreme  >:)
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  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 2,209
    Sandmanjw said:
    Iselin said:
    Life in the totalitarian fast lane. Mao would be pleased.
    Nanny state taken to the extreme  >:)

    There are parties in western countries salivating at this prospect.
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    So it was okay when you wanted governments to get involved and limit the loot-boxes, cash-shops, DLCs, etc. because "youngsters are addicted to gambling" but when the governments decide "youngsters are addicted to video-games" and limited their play time so then it is bad now eh?

    Problem is most play embrace totalitarianism when it aligns with what they want, and oppose it when it doesn't. 

    Don't worry, all of this "video games are causing violence" will blossom into something awful in the west too. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. But someday for sure. 

    Meanwhile there are countries that treat their citizens like adults, and somehow, they don't have these bullshit problems along with their bullshit solutions. 

    But hey, most of people who have been nagging about loot-boxes are from countries that prostitution is illegal unless you film it, or you can star in porn and go to war when you are 18 but you can't have a fucking beer, then any limitation of alcohol is considered an act against mankind but not only should ban drugs, but you declared a fucking war on it. 

    You know why do you have those ridiculous laws? Because people before you were also hypocrites. 

    Don't get me wrong, I am not a libertarian or something, I am not that selfish. Or one of those guys who opposes any government program but supports wars, and calls the cops and asks the government to incarcerate or executive anyone who looks at them wrong. No. But I really want the governments to fuck off when it comes down to stuff that is a personal choice and requires nothing but personal responsibility. 
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,617
    So it was okay when you wanted governments to get involved and limit the loot-boxes, cash-shops, DLCs, etc. because "youngsters are addicted to gambling" but when the governments decide "youngsters are addicted to video-games" and limited their play time so then it is bad now eh?

    Problem is most play embrace totalitarianism when it aligns with what they want, and oppose it when it doesn't. 

    Don't worry, all of this "video games are causing violence" will blossom into something awful in the west too. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. But someday for sure. 

    Meanwhile there are countries that treat their citizens like adults, and somehow, they don't have these bullshit problems along with their bullshit solutions. 

    But hey, most of people who have been nagging about loot-boxes are from countries that prostitution is illegal unless you film it, or you can star in porn and go to war when you are 18 but you can't have a fucking beer, then any limitation of alcohol is considered an act against mankind but not only should ban drugs, but you declared a fucking war on it. 

    You know why do you have those ridiculous laws? Because people before you were also hypocrites. 

    Don't get me wrong, I am not a libertarian or something, I am not that selfish. Or one of those guys who opposes any government program but supports wars, and calls the cops and asks the government to incarcerate or executive anyone who looks at them wrong. No. But I really want the governments to fuck off when it comes down to stuff that is a personal choice and requires nothing but personal responsibility. 
    I have to agree, but we do get people on here championing loot boxes in fact championing any way games can take money of us, to me that's more extraordinary. What I would like to see if this was done over here is equivalence, if you can only spend so much time on gaming then only so much time on social media. Time online is what needs looking at.

    But the levels they seem to be setting are draconian, how would be seven year old self have got that raid done with only one hour in the evening? ;)
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Wargfoot said:
    Wow, that will drive up the price of gold purchases.
    I wonder how much of an effect it will have on gaming a few years down the road.

    Whether companies like Tencent, with its stable of western studios, will try to push this new approach as their corporate-wide policy or if they will leave the subsidiaries alone. The former would certainly make it easier to localise western games in China.

    In any case, this move might have a big impact on how the games will be monetised in future. If the online habits in China will now be focusing on a few peak hours per week, that might push microtransactions and P2W practices even stronger than today. Youngsters simply won't have the time to grind stuff in-game and the developers will adapt their monetisation strategy accordingly.


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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 33,101
    Wargfoot said:
    Wargfoot said:
    Wow, that will drive up the price of gold purchases.
    I wonder how much of an effect it will have on gaming a few years down the road.

    Whether companies like Tencent, with its stable of western studios, will try to push this new approach as their corporate-wide policy or if they will leave the subsidiaries alone. The former would certainly make it easier to localise western games in China.

    In any case, this move might have a big impact on how the games will be monetised in future. If the online habits in China will now be focusing on a few peak hours per week, that might push microtransactions and P2W practices even stronger than today. Youngsters simply won't have the time to grind stuff in-game and the developers will adapt their monetisation strategy accordingly.


    Interesting.

    Could this effectively wipe out an entire generation of gamers - an entire generation that never had time to really play and ended up doing other things instead?

    In an MMORPG it might take 40 minutes to get a group together, and having time to finish the raid is out of the question.  Most games simply don't cater to that level of time commitment so why play at all?

    1 hr. a day for 3 days = I wouldn't even bother.
    Or maybe they just change how they are designed and make it so that 1 hour per day actually progresses your character more.

    Though I suspect there is going to be some sort of underground spoofing community that figures out how to bypass this restriction.
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    When these kids realize they just don't have enough time to socialize online they will bypass this thing when they figure out single player games can't be tracked if you never connect to the internet.

    Shhh, don't tell Xi Yinping.
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    edited September 2021
    Wargfoot said:
    When these kids realize they just don't have enough time to socialize online they will bypass this thing when they figure out single player games can't be tracked if you never connect to the internet.

    Shhh, don't tell Xi Yinping.
    Say now... a hybrid game where you can do solo questing and character development/crafting (offline) and then join for a quick raid (online).

    Roll out a game like that with garish visuals, a P2W store, and crypto and you'd be huge.

    As long as the offline part can be accessed from an offline "launcher" that could work too. I don't think the Chinese government is trying to limit online gaming alone but gaming in general. So they probably didn't give too much consideration to that little "offline" detail, maybe thinking it's all going down.

    EDIT: One big negative that these harsh online restrictions can bring is even more piracy as well. Especially if western countries try to do the same.
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Wargfoot said:
    Wow, that will drive up the price of gold purchases.
    I wonder how much of an effect it will have on gaming a few years down the road.

    Whether companies like Tencent, with its stable of western studios, will try to push this new approach as their corporate-wide policy or if they will leave the subsidiaries alone. The former would certainly make it easier to localise western games in China.

    In any case, this move might have a big impact on how the games will be monetised in future. If the online habits in China will now be focusing on a few peak hours per week, that might push microtransactions and P2W practices even stronger than today. Youngsters simply won't have the time to grind stuff in-game and the developers will adapt their monetisation strategy accordingly.



    I think we might not see the real repercussions from this until the 2022 revenue statements start rolling in.  Then a reduction to 3hr/week will start to show on the balance sheet.  If the numbers stay relatively high, I'd expect some very harsh monetization schemes are in our collective future.  If the numbers drop precipitously, expect companies focusing mostly on the Asian marketplace to diversify.



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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Wargfoot said:
    Wow, that will drive up the price of gold purchases.
    I wonder how much of an effect it will have on gaming a few years down the road.

    Whether companies like Tencent, with its stable of western studios, will try to push this new approach as their corporate-wide policy or if they will leave the subsidiaries alone. The former would certainly make it easier to localise western games in China.

    In any case, this move might have a big impact on how the games will be monetised in future. If the online habits in China will now be focusing on a few peak hours per week, that might push microtransactions and P2W practices even stronger than today. Youngsters simply won't have the time to grind stuff in-game and the developers will adapt their monetisation strategy accordingly.


    This only applies to those 17 or younger which is neither the biggest online gaming demographic nor the biggest spenders.

    I dislike what they're doing on general principle because it's just China being China with more of their social engineering shit, but I think you're way overestimating the economic impact.
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,059
    I see nothing wrong with it personally 

    I don't see how you prove someone is a minor or not? Every website I go to jsut has a "check here if you are over the age of 13" or something like that.....Have they created some sort of online ID whre they can accurately verify how old someone is? Also why not just go to older brother or uncle or some other relative and have them sign in for you? I'm sure there are a million ways around this.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 33,101
    I see nothing wrong with it personally 

    I don't see how you prove someone is a minor or not? Every website I go to jsut has a "check here if you are over the age of 13" or something like that.....Have they created some sort of online ID whre they can accurately verify how old someone is? Also why not just go to older brother or uncle or some other relative and have them sign in for you? I'm sure there are a million ways around this.
    It's possible they have an ID  that is required for anything that has to do with the web.
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