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New World Testing my claims?

AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 4,505
NW seems to me to be basically another Themepark. 
But it's Combat System seem different enough, and good enough, to be a real bonus for them.
Also, the world seems like a pretty good idea. Something different, even though the basic premise (a new land to conquer) has been done before. 
It's also a AAA game, so there shouldn't be any obvious lack of content, at least after they get going if nothing else. 

So this will be a good test of my claims that most gamers are getting tired of the same ol' same ol' Themepark style game play. 

My expectations are that they will do very well at first. It's different enough. 
I expect that they will start losing growth rate, and start to stagnate (growth wise), in about a year. 
Unless, of course, something goes badly with problems in the code, or even their design plans. Unknown or unexpected to gamers. 

But I have some questions that could change all of that. 
How is this game different, other than what I've listed above? 

Once upon a time....

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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,594
    edited July 22
    sorry but you are full of doodie.

    The number one reason comments like the above are created, is because the user play's a game like a themepark and have never grasped the concept of creating ones own journey through a game world.
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  • tzervotzervo Member EpicPosts: 1,581
    Mars_OMG said:
    sorry but you are full of doodie.
    You can tell he likes the game.  :D
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  • AAAMEOWAAAMEOW Member RarePosts: 1,465
    Almost every game get biggest number at release and stagnant or decline after.  Only a few manage to growth.  

    That is kind of expected.

     
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  • NorseGodNorseGod Member EpicPosts: 2,640
    My prediction, assuming it launches on time...I give it until November/December.

    Nobody likes a bricked graphics card, NW will get blamed.

    People will run out of main quests.

    FvFvF PvP will be dominated by one faction (Purple Map, every server).

    People will lose interest because that's the state of the new gamer generation.

    You're stuck playing one of two meta builds (if you chase meta and compete endgame).

    Lumberyard engine issues (desync, etc).

    John Smedley ability to screw up a game will be underestimated. 

    There will be enough Amazon fanbois playing to keep the lights on, but that's it.

    Cash Shop...it's coming boys, P2W is coming.
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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,850
    The only really linear theme park element of NW is the main story quest line.
    Everything else you can do when you want, where you want.

    The closest game would be ESO, except the territory conquest PvP in NW happens in the world instead of a separate area.
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  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 4,505
    edited July 22
    Mars_OMG said:
    sorry but you are full of doodie.

    The number one reason comments like the above are created, is because the user play's a game like a themepark and have never grasped the concept of creating ones own journey through a game world.
    Create one's own journey through a Themepark? You have to be kidding. 
    Or do you mean the journey you can create in a Sandbox? 
    I am a Sandbox gamer, if you didn't know. Very strongly. I've touted the benefits of Sandbox over and over again. Including a number of recent posts. 
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    Once upon a time....

  • BrainyBrainy Member RarePosts: 687
    I expect the game to start losing PVE'ers pretty quickly.  It will cannibalize the PVP MMO's to have decent numbers, but the PVE crowd wont be able to play this game long.
    Mendel
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,850
    Mars_OMG said:
    sorry but you are full of doodie.

    The number one reason comments like the above are created, is because the user play's a game like a themepark and have never grasped the concept of creating ones own journey through a game world.
    Create one's own journey through a Themepark? You have to be kidding. 
    Or do you mean the journey you can create in a Sandbox? 
    I am a Sandbox gamer, if you didn't know. Very strongly. I've touted the benefits of Sandbox over and over again. Including a number of recent posts. 

    Read my previous post. The only really linear element is the main story quest line.
    Everything else you can do anywhere in the world.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 38,156
    edited July 22
    Mars_OMG said:
    sorry but you are full of doodie.
    You can tell he likes the game.  :D
    Yeah, but aren't most of us a bit full of "it" when it comes to expressing our opinions or preferences?



    Well, except for you and me of course.

    ;)
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 15,573
    I never got the impression this was meant to be a AAA sandbox, they did change direction but I thought that was just about PvP? So yes from what people are saying it is a themepark, but lets get over that and move on.
  • SharneSharne Member UncommonPosts: 271
    Kyleran said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    sorry but you are full of doodie.
    You can tell he likes the game.  :D
    Yeah, but aren't most of us a bit full of "it" when it comes to expressing our opinions or preferences?



    Well, except for you and me of course.

    ;)
    Spot on, aside from the posters who put an "Sh" in front of it (that's not aimed at anyone in this thread btw)
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,850
    edited July 22
    Scot said:
    I never got the impression this was meant to be a AAA sandbox, they did change direction but I thought that was just about PvP? So yes from what people are saying it is a themepark, but lets get over that and move on.

    It's not a sandbox, and it's not a linear theme park either. It's like ESO, what some use to call "sandpark".
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,833

    So this will be a good test of my claims that most gamers are getting tired of the same ol' same ol' Themepark style game play. 

    FF XIV players. with server queues these many years later, would like t have a word with you about the meaning of "most."
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,833
    NorseGod said:

    John Smedley ability to screw up a game will be underestimated. 


    If you want people to believe you know what you're talking about when making predictions about a game you know nothing about, you should at least do enough basic research (A.K.A. "googling") to know that Smedley has nothing to do with New World.

    That's just basic posing 101.
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  • tzervotzervo Member EpicPosts: 1,581
    Iselin said:
    That's just basic posing 101.
    Trying to understand if that was a typo or not. Both kinda fit. :D
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,833
    tzervo said:
    Iselin said:
    That's just basic posing 101.
    Trying to understand if that was a typo or not. Both kinda fit. :D
    Not a typo :)
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,594
    Mars_OMG said:
    sorry but you are full of doodie.

    The number one reason comments like the above are created, is because the user play's a game like a themepark and have never grasped the concept of creating ones own journey through a game world.
    Create one's own journey through a Themepark? You have to be kidding. 
    Or do you mean the journey you can create in a Sandbox? 
    I am a Sandbox gamer, if you didn't know. Very strongly. I've touted the benefits of Sandbox over and over again. Including a number of recent posts. 

    Read my previous post. The only really linear element is the main story quest line.
    Everything else you can do anywhere in the world.
    he doesn't get it...
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,594
    Mars_OMG said:
    sorry but you are full of doodie.

    The number one reason comments like the above are created, is because the user play's a game like a themepark and have never grasped the concept of creating ones own journey through a game world.
    Create one's own journey through a Themepark? You have to be kidding. 
    Or do you mean the journey you can create in a Sandbox? 
    I am a Sandbox gamer, if you didn't know. Very strongly. I've touted the benefits of Sandbox over and over again. Including a number of recent posts. 
    what fantasy game do you play that's a sandbox ?
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,404
    edited July 22
    Scot said:
    I never got the impression this was meant to be a AAA sandbox, they did change direction but I thought that was just about PvP? So yes from what people are saying it is a themepark, but lets get over that and move on.

    It's not a sandbox, and it's not a linear theme park either. It's like ESO, what some use to call "sandpark".

    Many gamers seem to think there are only those two types of designs, sandbox and themepark. Sandpark fits New World well in my opinion. To me, New World and Skyrim are open world flexible RPGs. There are some fixed elements, like going to a specific cave is always the same.

    The land is dotted with Corruption Portals (ala Rifts in the MMO of the same name) which lends a dynamic feel to the environment.

    I can build my character however I want. My current character uses a fire staff and a rapier. Maybe that will change. I am somewhat proficient in sword and shield, but my attributes (high int and dex) don't support that well, but I can use them.

    I can wear any armor I want and mix and match between them. There are tradeoffs when doing so.

    It definitely is much more flexible than typical themepark MMORPG design like LoTRO, EQ2, WoW, FF14, etc.
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 9,378
    Everyone likes different things and for this game it's no different. It's more of sandbox than a themepark and you need to keep yourself busy doing stuff and setting your own goals. If you were raised on WoW you might not like it because there is no hand holding beyond the first few minutes of the game and no forced direction. If you played SWG or UO or you just want more freedom to play how you want, you might like it. If you need to always be nagged about what to do next you might hate it.
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  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 4,505
    Scot said:
    I never got the impression this was meant to be a AAA sandbox, they did change direction but I thought that was just about PvP? So yes from what people are saying it is a themepark, but lets get over that and move on.

    It's not a sandbox, and it's not a linear theme park either. It's like ESO, what some use to call "sandpark".
    So then, content is scaled? 

    Once upon a time....

  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 4,505
    edited July 22
    Iselin said:

    So this will be a good test of my claims that most gamers are getting tired of the same ol' same ol' Themepark style game play. 

    FF XIV players. with server queues these many years later, would like t have a word with you about the meaning of "most."
    I'd ask them if they are playing it because it's what they want, or if it's just their best option in a world full of nothing but Themepark games. 
    Or, I guess, "SandPark." 

    Once upon a time....

  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,594
    - abandoning social media could possibly save the world.  
    #RestoreTheSnyderVerse 
  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 4,505
    Mars_OMG said:
    Hang on. I was just going to reply to a post of yours despite having other things to do. 
    The world does not revolve around you, you know. 

    But now, I think I'll go do something else. Hehe
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  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 4,505
    Mars_OMG said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    sorry but you are full of doodie.

    The number one reason comments like the above are created, is because the user play's a game like a themepark and have never grasped the concept of creating ones own journey through a game world.
    Create one's own journey through a Themepark? You have to be kidding. 
    Or do you mean the journey you can create in a Sandbox? 
    I am a Sandbox gamer, if you didn't know. Very strongly. I've touted the benefits of Sandbox over and over again. Including a number of recent posts. 
    what fantasy game do you play that's a sandbox ?
    I haven't played an MMORPG in 9 years. The only one that I would consider a proper Sandbox was UO. But after 13 years in that game, and lacking serious continued development, and old friends, it just got "old." 
    YashaX

    Once upon a time....

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