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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 15,274
    Edrani said:

    Mars_OMG said:


    Nyctelios said:

    Gameplay loop is fun, but the game needs some polish.

    I don't think its ready to launch.


    I feel like the game is very polished, the frame rate was pretty good for me ..



    Everything under 90 fps is not "good". Idk what you mean by "good" but ive seen so many people saying they framerates are "good" when they are running around with like 40 fps. Sword of Legends Online was the perfect exemple for that
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  • wozzerdeanwozzerdean Member UncommonPosts: 14
    I expect 200 to be playing after a month after release, No joke utter trash and that is being nice.
  • ZegalothZegaloth Member RarePosts: 305
    Damn. Got some polarizing first time posters on here.

    I am glad the game is finally launching. I am tired of remaking characters.
    So far I like the variety of races and classes, art style is decent.
    I have been getting 60FPS steady on high graphic settings, but the most I ever saw in one fight was around 50v50, but even so maintaining a 60fps is pretty decent with that much going on.


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  • xpsyncxpsync Member EpicPosts: 1,798
    Almost 600 keys left after 4 days?
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  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member RarePosts: 827
    xpsync said:
    Almost 600 keys left after 4 days?
    They advertised free keys on other more popular sites, like Massively...  this sites pvp community is small compared to PVE focused.
    tzervo
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,474
    xpsync said:
    Almost 600 keys left after 4 days?
    They advertised free keys on other more popular sites, like Massively...  this sites pvp community is small compared to PVE focused.
    Yet... very few have used the keys from ANYWHERE to access the game over the weekend.  Maybe a few hundred...

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  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member RarePosts: 827
    edited June 7
    xpsync said:
    Almost 600 keys left after 4 days?
    They advertised free keys on other more popular sites, like Massively...  this sites pvp community is small compared to PVE focused.
    Yet... very few have used the keys from ANYWHERE to access the game over the weekend.  Maybe a few hundred...

    I saw some of the numbers you posted at specific times, those are very concerning, beta runs till the 23rd. 

    I'm not an apologist for the game, you would hope for a massive inflow at the start of beta.  

    Keep reporting... good info.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,474
    edited June 7
    xpsync said:
    Almost 600 keys left after 4 days?
    They advertised free keys on other more popular sites, like Massively...  this sites pvp community is small compared to PVE focused.
    Yet... very few have used the keys from ANYWHERE to access the game over the weekend.  Maybe a few hundred...

    I saw some of the numbers you posted at specific times, those are very concerning, beta runs till the 23rd. 

    I'm not an apologist for the game, you would hope for a massive inflow at the start of beta.  

    Keep reporting... good info.
    Yeah, I would like nothing more than for this game to take off, but I have a guild of 9 setup right now.  We have gamed together for years.  Of those 9, 8 have purchased copies of the game.   Of those 8, only 1 other person (besides me) has even responded to the idea of giving it one more go at launch.

    All anecdotal... but as I said earlier, if AoC or New World gave away keys they would be gone in minutes, even if it was just for a weekend test.  Heck, even Mortal Online 2 had their Weekend Stress Test keys all taken.  And I can rag on the game, but there were thousands of people who tried it that weekend, if not tens of thousands.

    Folks can keep their heads wedged firmly in....  the sand... but the canary in the mineshaft isn't looking so good at this point. 
    Post edited by Slapshot1188 on
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  • cameltosiscameltosis Member EpicPosts: 2,998
    I picked up a key over the weekend, but I did get mine from MOP.


    I've only put about 2 hours into the game so far, roughly level 8 I think. It hasn't been enough time for me to make any sort of judgements yet, except that the UI is awful. Really awful.


    Hoping to put more time in over the rest of the week and reach the PvP parts, see how things work. I actually like the art style more than I thought I would. I was a bit disappointed by the class locking, but managed to find a combo that I liked. Also massively disappointed by the information on the website! I read through every class description on the site and still didn't have a clue what role that class was supposed to be! I mean, wtf! The main role choice you have to make, and it doesn't explain what the roles are?!?!?


    I'm playing a dwarf knight called Anstalt if anyone spots me in game. Went for that combo so I could compare a Crowfall tank to WAR's tanks, since a dwarf tank is what I play on RoR. I think I spotted @tzervo in game the other day, or at least someone with his/her name.
    tzervo
  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member RarePosts: 827
    edited June 7
    xpsync said:
    Almost 600 keys left after 4 days?
    They advertised free keys on other more popular sites, like Massively...  this sites pvp community is small compared to PVE focused.
    Yet... very few have used the keys from ANYWHERE to access the game over the weekend.  Maybe a few hundred...

    I saw some of the numbers you posted at specific times, those are very concerning, beta runs till the 23rd. 

    I'm not an apologist for the game, you would hope for a massive inflow at the start of beta.  

    Keep reporting... good info.
    Yeah, I would like nothing more than for this game to take off, but I have a guild of 9 setup right now.  We have gamed together for years.  Of those 9, 8 have purchased copies of the game.   Of those 8, only 1 other person (besides me) has even responded to the idea of giving it one more go at launch.

    All anecdotal... but as I said earlier, if AoC or New World gave away leys they would be gone in minutes, even if it was just for a weekend test.  Heck, even Mortal Online 2 had their Weekend Stress Test keys all taken.  And I can rag on the game, but there were thousands of people who tried it that weekend, if not tens of thousands.

    Folks can keep their heads wedged firmly in....  the sand... but the canary in the mineshaft isn't looking so good at this point. 
    See, when it comes to your posts... I know you're the type that enjoys different formats and that includes pvp.  So, you'll try to be balanced.

    The only saving grace I can possibly point to, is that both ESO and WoW dropped expansions the past week.  But even so... not good.
  • TwistedSister77TwistedSister77 Member RarePosts: 827
    edited June 7
    I picked up a key over the weekend, but I did get mine from MOP.


    I've only put about 2 hours into the game so far, roughly level 8 I think. It hasn't been enough time for me to make any sort of judgements yet, except that the UI is awful. Really awful.


    Hoping to put more time in over the rest of the week and reach the PvP parts, see how things work. I actually like the art style more than I thought I would. I was a bit disappointed by the class locking, but managed to find a combo that I liked. Also massively disappointed by the information on the website! I read through every class description on the site and still didn't have a clue what role that class was supposed to be! I mean, wtf! The main role choice you have to make, and it doesn't explain what the roles are?!?!?


    I'm playing a dwarf knight called Anstalt if anyone spots me in game. Went for that combo so I could compare a Crowfall tank to WAR's tanks, since a dwarf tank is what I play on RoR. I think I spotted @tzervo in game the other day, or at least someone with his/her name.
    It's a shame companies in this day and age don't give more base UI options for preferences and playstyles. 

     Thank god for addons that will come to customize.

    Check out some youtube videos, and I agree... why they wouldn't have more info on their site about classes is not the smartest move.

    Try to join a guild that's playing while you are, that's how the pvp is meant to be played.
    tzervo
  • cameltosiscameltosis Member EpicPosts: 2,998
    I picked up a key over the weekend, but I did get mine from MOP.


    I've only put about 2 hours into the game so far, roughly level 8 I think. It hasn't been enough time for me to make any sort of judgements yet, except that the UI is awful. Really awful.


    Hoping to put more time in over the rest of the week and reach the PvP parts, see how things work. I actually like the art style more than I thought I would. I was a bit disappointed by the class locking, but managed to find a combo that I liked. Also massively disappointed by the information on the website! I read through every class description on the site and still didn't have a clue what role that class was supposed to be! I mean, wtf! The main role choice you have to make, and it doesn't explain what the roles are?!?!?


    I'm playing a dwarf knight called Anstalt if anyone spots me in game. Went for that combo so I could compare a Crowfall tank to WAR's tanks, since a dwarf tank is what I play on RoR. I think I spotted @tzervo in game the other day, or at least someone with his/her name.
    It's a shame companies in this day and age don't give more base UI options for preferences and playstyles. 

     Thank god for addons that will come to customize.

    Check out some youtube videos, and I agree... why they wouldn't have more info on their site about classes is not the smartest move.

    Try to join a guild that's playing while you are, that's how the pvp is meant to be played.

    Is crowfall going the addon route?

    I haven't been following closely so I don't know, but that would be great if we can get UI addons! WAR's UI was shit too, but addons made it a lot better.


    I don't really understand how they've made such a bad UI in the first place. I'm not complaining about the graphics / art of the UI so much as the placement.

    I have to look top left for my health
    I have to look bottom middle for main skills
    I have to look bottom right for other skills
    I have to look middle right for buffs / debuffs
    I have to look centre top for enemy health
    I have to look centre for positioning and aiming.


    It's just too much. On a 32inch monitor like I have, thats just too much eye movement in order to keep track of everything thats going on. Poor design.


    They could easily condense the skill bar, it's not like there are many toolbar slots! And why separate the buffs/debuffs from the character window? Every other game puts their buffs right underneath the healthbar so everything is in one place. What possible use is there in separating the information? And the enemy health bar, why is that top middle? And so inconsistent? With no tab-targetting, the game seems unsure who I'm targetting, so sometimes the enemy health bar is there, sometimes it isn't.
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  • tzervotzervo Member EpicPosts: 1,291
    I picked up a key over the weekend, but I did get mine from MOP.

    I'm playing a dwarf knight called Anstalt if anyone spots me in game. Went for that combo so I could compare a Crowfall tank to WAR's tanks, since a dwarf tank is what I play on RoR. I think I spotted @tzervo in game the other day, or at least someone with his/her name.
    Heeey. Yep that was me trying it out. Used the key from MOP as well. I remember your dwarf!! :D
  • tzervotzervo Member EpicPosts: 1,291
    edited June 8

    I don't really understand how they've made such a bad UI in the first place. I'm not complaining about the graphics / art of the UI so much as the placement.

    I have to look top left for my health
    I have to look bottom middle for main skills
    I have to look bottom right for other skills
    I have to look middle right for buffs / debuffs
    I have to look centre top for enemy health
    I have to look centre for positioning and aiming.


    It's just too much. On a 32inch monitor like I have, thats just too much eye movement in order to keep track of everything thats going on. Poor design.

    They could easily condense the skill bar, it's not like there are many toolbar slots! And why separate the buffs/debuffs from the character window? Every other game puts their buffs right underneath the healthbar so everything is in one place. What possible use is there in separating the information? And the enemy health bar, why is that top middle? And so inconsistent? With no tab-targetting, the game seems unsure who I'm targetting, so sometimes the enemy health bar is there, sometimes it isn't.
    I remember reading about these complaints on the UI from other posters (here and on MOP) too. Especially the fact that you cannot move its elements around and the size/placement of the buffs.

    I guess this is one point that shows the lower production value of a game developed by a smaller indie studio. Making a good UI/UX is part-experience, part inspiration and part data-driven research on the users' preferences (A/B testing etc). The last bit needs time and resources put into it to gather data from the users, both of which I assume are not plentiful for a smaller studio. And I remember the UI/UX designers in my company reiterating how crucial data-driven UI/UX design is.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,474
    I picked up a key over the weekend, but I did get mine from MOP.


    I've only put about 2 hours into the game so far, roughly level 8 I think. It hasn't been enough time for me to make any sort of judgements yet, except that the UI is awful. Really awful.


    Hoping to put more time in over the rest of the week and reach the PvP parts, see how things work. I actually like the art style more than I thought I would. I was a bit disappointed by the class locking, but managed to find a combo that I liked. Also massively disappointed by the information on the website! I read through every class description on the site and still didn't have a clue what role that class was supposed to be! I mean, wtf! The main role choice you have to make, and it doesn't explain what the roles are?!?!?


    I'm playing a dwarf knight called Anstalt if anyone spots me in game. Went for that combo so I could compare a Crowfall tank to WAR's tanks, since a dwarf tank is what I play on RoR. I think I spotted @tzervo in game the other day, or at least someone with his/her name.
    It's a shame companies in this day and age don't give more base UI options for preferences and playstyles. 

     Thank god for addons that will come to customize.

    Check out some youtube videos, and I agree... why they wouldn't have more info on their site about classes is not the smartest move.

    Try to join a guild that's playing while you are, that's how the pvp is meant to be played.

    Is crowfall going the addon route?

    I haven't been following closely so I don't know, but that would be great if we can get UI addons! WAR's UI was shit too, but addons made it a lot better.


    I don't really understand how they've made such a bad UI in the first place. I'm not complaining about the graphics / art of the UI so much as the placement.

    I have to look top left for my health
    I have to look bottom middle for main skills
    I have to look bottom right for other skills
    I have to look middle right for buffs / debuffs
    I have to look centre top for enemy health
    I have to look centre for positioning and aiming.


    It's just too much. On a 32inch monitor like I have, thats just too much eye movement in order to keep track of everything thats going on. Poor design.


    They could easily condense the skill bar, it's not like there are many toolbar slots! And why separate the buffs/debuffs from the character window? Every other game puts their buffs right underneath the healthbar so everything is in one place. What possible use is there in separating the information? And the enemy health bar, why is that top middle? And so inconsistent? With no tab-targetting, the game seems unsure who I'm targetting, so sometimes the enemy health bar is there, sometimes it isn't.
    I will agree that the organization is poor.  I never really know what buffs/debuffs I have on me because of their placement.  At least in combat.

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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,661
    Wait, this game is seriously going to be B2P? I thought this entire time it was going f2p on live......yeah this is definitely going to be DOA if that's true.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,474
    Albatroes said:
    Wait, this game is seriously going to be B2P? I thought this entire time it was going f2p on live......yeah this is definitely going to be DOA if that's true.
    It's always been billed as B2P with an optional sub and a cash shop that is supposed to only have cosmetics and account type items.

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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 5,815
    xpsync said:
    Almost 600 keys left after 4 days?
    They advertised free keys on other more popular sites, like Massively...  this sites pvp community is small compared to PVE focused.
    Yet... very few have used the keys from ANYWHERE to access the game over the weekend.  Maybe a few hundred...

    I saw some of the numbers you posted at specific times, those are very concerning, beta runs till the 23rd. 

    I'm not an apologist for the game, you would hope for a massive inflow at the start of beta.  

    Keep reporting... good info.
    The huge thing to grasp here, is that Crowfall has been playable for years, it has already sold near to half a million seats, as such, most of the people that were excited about this game, already bought it.

    So their focused demographic is not lining up for the free Beta Keys now, they have been playing the Beta's (Maybe even Alphas) already, and now, they prepping for launch, which sadly, is best done outside the game, with build editors, and discord channels to talk about your build.

    So, the lack of tickets moving, is IMHO, more something that is caused by Art Crafts very unique approach to game development with Crowfall, by allowing players to buy the game while it was in pre-Alpha and play it all the while it was literally being developed around them.

    Such is my take on things.

    But, Again, they have already sold near half a million seats. While that might not equate to huge numbers at launch, we shall see.
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  • TillerTiller Member EpicPosts: 9,262
    This game was hype years ago; think most have moved on and forgotten about it.
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,490
    Albatroes said:
    Wait, this game is seriously going to be B2P? I thought this entire time it was going f2p on live......yeah this is definitely going to be DOA if that's true.
    why does it matter to you what crowfall does ?
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,661
    Mars_OMG said:
    Albatroes said:
    Wait, this game is seriously going to be B2P? I thought this entire time it was going f2p on live......yeah this is definitely going to be DOA if that's true.
    why does it matter to you what crowfall does ?

    Bigger question is why does my opinion of the game matter to you? If you can answer that, then my answer to your question will probably be the same....
  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,490
    edited June 10
    Albatroes said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    Albatroes said:
    Wait, this game is seriously going to be B2P? I thought this entire time it was going f2p on live......yeah this is definitely going to be DOA if that's true.
    why does it matter to you what crowfall does ?

    Bigger question is why does my opinion of the game matter to you? If you can answer that, then my answer to your question will probably be the same....
    Because you are trolling people like it is 2010 for no reason but to get a rise out of forum posters who have positive vibe about crowfall. As of this post, you will not exist in my universe, good day sir.


    How many times does some need to say they hate something that doesnt follow the wow jelly mold and really most of the  out spoken people who "hate" crowfall sound like whining blizzard shills.
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,661
    edited June 10
    Mars_OMG said:
    Albatroes said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    Albatroes said:
    Wait, this game is seriously going to be B2P? I thought this entire time it was going f2p on live......yeah this is definitely going to be DOA if that's true.
    why does it matter to you what crowfall does ?

    Bigger question is why does my opinion of the game matter to you? If you can answer that, then my answer to your question will probably be the same....
    Because you are trolling people like it is 2010 for no reason but to get a rise out of forum posters who have positive vibe about crowfall. As of this post, you will not exist in my universe, good day sir.


    How many times does some need to say they hate something that doesnt follow the wow jelly mold and really most of the  out spoken people who "hate" crowfall sound like whining blizzard shills.

    So me having an opposing view of the game means I'm trolling.....that is a very interesting view point. I guess I can't be surprised by this way of thinking given how the world has been over the past 4-5 years. I mean for all I know, you've probably sunk money into backing this title, which is fine. But PvP-focused games are objectively niche, with the idea of the entire progress cycle ending and restarting in this game being even more niche.

    The point of my post isn't to tell people how to spend their money, just for people who do not understand the reality of certain sub-genres of mmos play out. But I guess you would consider educating people as trolling as well.
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 1,869
    Albatroes said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    Albatroes said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    Albatroes said:
    Wait, this game is seriously going to be B2P? I thought this entire time it was going f2p on live......yeah this is definitely going to be DOA if that's true.
    why does it matter to you what crowfall does ?

    Bigger question is why does my opinion of the game matter to you? If you can answer that, then my answer to your question will probably be the same....
    Because you are trolling people like it is 2010 for no reason but to get a rise out of forum posters who have positive vibe about crowfall. As of this post, you will not exist in my universe, good day sir.


    How many times does some need to say they hate something that doesnt follow the wow jelly mold and really most of the  out spoken people who "hate" crowfall sound like whining blizzard shills.
    The point of my post isn't to tell people how to spend their money, just for people who do not understand the reality of certain sub-genres of mmos play out. But I guess you would consider educating people as trolling as well.
    You didn't even know Crowfall is b2p. I don't care about the game at all and can't remember when I didn't know that basic fact about it. Perhaps you're not in a good place to educate people on the game.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,474
    In less than a month the conversation will shift from what we think will happen to reality.  

    Should be fun.

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