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The Dreamworld Situation Is Looking Like a Mess | MMORPG.com

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Remember Dreamworld? It was the Kickstarter which promised, "the endgame, it's every genre, every game, every style, all wrapped into one." It looks like a lot of things have gone down in the intervening time.

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 10,398
    edited May 2021
    Perfect thumbnail for this lol. Hate to say this, and it may sound rude but I guess they F'd around found out this is the wrong industry to try and pull this **** and not be called out for it. They may very well have wanted to create a game, but they went about promoting it all wrong, that and they obviously should know better which leads me to think it's a scam.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 19,941
    edited May 2021
    Crowd funding websites need more scrutiny on what they have for offer, I think I am right in saying these lemons had a "recommended" sticker or something from KS but it was then taken down? As soon as anyone here heard about it we were all saying "this is barking". It did not take some gaming development genius to work that out.
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 2,949
    Almost all Kickstarter MMO's are a scam.

    Yes yes, SC included!

    In before "NOT TRUE!!!"

    Well .. prove me wrong.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 41,520
    edited May 2021
    IceAge said:
    Almost all Kickstarter MMO's are a scam.

    Yes yes, SC included!

    In before "NOT TRUE!!!"

    Well .. prove me wrong.
    Define scam...

    This one likely is but have to understand what the framework is for discussing others

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 17,915
    And yet $65K were raised by this scam. Gamers are very easy marks apparently even when the scam is so obvious.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 41,520
    Iselin said:
    And yet $65K were raised by this scam. Gamers are very easy marks apparently even when the scam is so obvious.
    Still too many people out there who believe


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  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 191
    edited May 2021
    ive infiltrated the dreamworld discord
    the people in there are strange
    image
    they speak the owo language
    theres this guy trash talking it rn and these brainwashed drones are defending it
    i was expecting a lot of ppl to call them out on the scam but theres a lot of ppl dreaming in there
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 17,915
    yonpachi said:
    ive infiltrated the dreamworld discord
    the people in there are strange
    image
    they speak the owo language
    theres this guy trash talking it rn and these brainwashed drones are defending it
    i was expecting a lot of ppl to call them out on the scam but theres a lot of ppl dreaming in there
    They can 100% take advantage of gaming sites hesitant to call out the scam and the cultists who get a feeling of belonging and being part of the inner circle who will bash anyone who is critical.

    Even with all the shit that COE has done and gone through there are still one or 2 morons promoting it as if it were a legit MMO in development. Dreamworld is no different.

    There is no bar too low for those who just need to belong to something - anything - to crawl under.
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

    yonpachi said:

    ive infiltrated the dreamworld discord

    the people in there are strange


    image


    they speak the owo language

    theres this guy trash talking it rn and these brainwashed drones are defending it


    i was expecting a lot of ppl to call them out on the scam but
    theres a lot of ppl dreaming in there



    we have that on this forum so why its a suprise?
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  • yonpachiyonpachi Member UncommonPosts: 191




    yonpachi said:


    ive infiltrated the dreamworld discord


    the people in there are strange




    image




    they speak the owo language


    theres this guy trash talking it rn and these brainwashed drones are defending it




    i was expecting a lot of ppl to call them out on the scam but

    theres a lot of ppl dreaming in there







    we have that on this forum so why its a suprise?



    most people here don't speak the owo language, so i was surprised there
  • GrindcoreTHRALLGrindcoreTHRALL Member UncommonPosts: 297
    Ya looks like a garbage game. Can't believe it even made 65k. People trying to compare this to star citizen definitely need a reality check. BTW SC just made like another 10 mill in a week :) Its also free week with a recent update if you disbelievers still wanna talk shit.
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 2,949

    Kyleran said:


    IceAge said:

    Almost all Kickstarter MMO's are a scam.



    Yes yes, SC included!



    In before "NOT TRUE!!!"



    Well .. prove me wrong.


    Define scam...

    This one likely is but have to understand what the framework is for discussing others




    Asking money for a product with X features, where in the end, the said product is not even released, or released but with far, far...far less features than what was promised at the time of ..asking money for the product ( via Kickstarter or alike ).

    Both of the above = scam , even if a product is (somehow) finally released, if it has far less features than what was promised is .. still a scam.

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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,198
    I think their sneaky cleverness was promising only an alpha for the donated money.  
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 10,398
    edited May 2021
    Ya looks like a garbage game. Can't believe it even made 65k. People trying to compare this to star citizen definitely need a reality check. BTW SC just made like another 10 mill in a week :) Its also free week with a recent update if you disbelievers still wanna talk shit.


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  • RidrithRidrith Member RarePosts: 753
    I'm sorry, but whoever visited the actual Kickstarter page and looked at the absolute garbage screenshots and information provided, they're fools, and they deserve to have their money taken. Seriously. Idiots need to be parted with their cash asap. Maybe they'll learn something.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 15,891
    Ridrith said:
    I'm sorry, but whoever visited the actual Kickstarter page and looked at the absolute garbage screenshots and information provided, they're fools, and they deserve to have their money taken. Seriously. Idiots need to be parted with their cash asap. Maybe they'll learn something.
    No.  They just move to the next "game" to donate to.   It's already happened quite a few times.  
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  • fulger_xfulger_x Member UncommonPosts: 6
    edited May 2021

    Iselin said:

    And yet $65K were raised by this scam. Gamers are very easy marks apparently even when the scam is so obvious.



    I mean, let's be real, gamers aren't the smartest in the bunch and tend to be pretty dumb/uneducated. Very gullible/credulous.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,287
    Didn't they just put out an Alpha?
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  • ShutaraShutara Member UncommonPosts: 127
    edited May 2021
    I think the term "scam" really requires individual in-depth look at the project, because "unmet development goals" are not always fueled with bad intentions to make some easy money. Of course, probably 8 out of 10 they turn out to be anyway.
    Sometimes it's obvious for the most people, like with Dreamworld, but there were also blatant examples, that time has to take it's toll (and people's money) to show us how things are.
    *wink wink Caspian*
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  • HuntSPMCHuntSPMC Member UncommonPosts: 36
    "A fool and his money," yadda yadda, you guys know the rest.
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  • Deathkon1Deathkon1 Member RarePosts: 817
    Ridrith said:
    I'm sorry, but whoever visited the actual Kickstarter page and looked at the absolute garbage screenshots and information provided, they're fools, and they deserve to have their money taken. Seriously. Idiots need to be parted with their cash asap. Maybe they'll learn something.
    No.  They just move to the next "game" to donate to.   It's already happened quite a few times.  
    Finally someone who gets the current trend still laughing at the fact anyone donates more then $60 to anything gaming wise pfff lol
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited May 2021
    I don't share kira's last point of view.
    I feel in case of jeremy his intent was to hope to get an investor but he was just so inept that never happened.

    In the case of the two jokers i fully believe they were out to scam people and never intended on delivering a real game that We as consumers would consider a plausible game.IDC what THEY call an Alpha game or what KS'r might agree to ,i care about what consumers call a game.

    I also called out Kickstarter for having so little if any regulations or monitoring of these scams.I even believe KS'r often KNOWS these are likely scams but doesn't care because it just wants it's cut so basically a partner in crime.

    As to the Y combinator ordeal that part had me baffled but later i found out they had some inside connection to scam even Y Combinator.

    Mr/Walsh is imo just an idiot but these two asshats are a joke,imo true scammers.IMO KS'r should be called out by more people and investigaed for supplying a platform to scam people of their money.
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  • Phoenix_HawkPhoenix_Hawk Member UncommonPosts: 245
    I have to wonder if the two behind this didn't throw that Kickstarter thing together as a joke, never really expecting there would be enough people stupid enough to donate money into it. That, or they looked at all the other BS Kickstarter gaming campaigns that actually get funded, and figured they'd give it a shot too, as clearly there's a lot of morons in the gaming community with money they don't know what to do with.
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    A nice little video with reveal of the Alpha..lol.I think these two guys are going to disappear and i expect some legal action might be incoming.IDC if their wording of delivering only an Alpha meets KS'r legal terms it doesn't meet mine or anyone else's because imo they were knowingly trying to deceive the public to get money from naive people.





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  • vegetableoilvegetableoil Member RarePosts: 766
    Well it's a "$10,000 I can make mmo" what do you expect?
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