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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,255
    On that note.  Maybe we could get back to the good conversation and not get this dragged down.  I for one honestly am enjoying the open discussion!

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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,359
    Kyleran said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    Iselin said:
    Mars_OMG said:


    I have a tear in my eyes for kano's safety and welfare. 


    The personal attacks in his last post were directed at you. Were you the one who reported him? Are those alleged tears, tears of regret?
    Makes no difference to me, when a person is hurting, they are hurting regardless. 

    I did report him because he trolling, that was and is the protocol here, or have you forgotten who built those rules ? Give you guess, the person was killed in a car crash in Europe heading to her new elevated job title. Someone I spent countless private message discussing those same rules.

    I've been here for over a decade so don't for one second think I will be some peepod push over cause someone broke the rules. And I'm sincere that I wish kano the best and I do feel sad for him for the tremendous disaster that was Trion's end.


    There's a level of hyprocisy that rising from this thread, and it's sickening.


    https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/421340/general-do-you-remember-taera

    Great link, I noticed three people on it with perma bans including Lokto, an old EVE acquaintance from back in the day. 

    It also highlights my previous assertion that it was far more common back then to get a perma ban, think they might have had a three strikes in a single year and you are out for good rule, which clearly isn't true today.

    I too remember Taera and worked with her several times to overturn moderation actions on my posts. (My sarcastic humor wasn't always appreciated or understood by one mod in particular.)


    Think it was during Vangaurd Saga of Heroes beta. Think a lot of people talked to Taera during that time. She was an awesome person to take the time to respond to us.
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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,252
    The guy who admitted to getting another forum poster banned cause his feelings were hurt is now telling us we all need to "go back to WoW"...

    When you can't win an argument try to get them banned instead..

    When people call you out on your BS try to get the thread closed..

    There's a pattern here somewhere...
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,359
    edited March 29
    BruceYee said:
    The guy who admitted to getting another forum poster banned cause his feelings were hurt is now telling us we all need to "go back to WoW"...

    When you can't win an argument try to get them banned instead..

    When people call you out on your BS try to get the thread closed..

    There's a pattern here somewhere...
    Thank you for your opinion. I'm not a guy, I'm a Planet. :)

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 7,814
    On that note.  Maybe we could get back to the good conversation and not get this dragged down.  I for one honestly am enjoying the open discussion!


    Reported for enjoying yourself :)
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  • niceguy3978niceguy3978 Member UncommonPosts: 2,032
    I don't post here as much as I use to, but I've never reported anyone.  Even though I don't post as much, I do read the forums regularly.  There are a couple of posters here (some have posted in this thread) who I regularly show my wife. I do it to point out that there are people who are even more condescending than I am.  
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,248
    Long-winded rant, surprise. :)

    Everyone has their personal stance, but regardless whether you're a forum warrior righting wrongs, trolling and goading, just posting your opinion, take a hands-off approach, or whatever; the active community is dwindling.

    We can blame one group or another, the community, or the staff, but the reality is, in my opinion, it's a sum of all those parts. Blame doesn't matter but the fact is our environment doesn't seem to attract new posters who stick around; and those who've been here for a long time continue to dwindle.

    Look at the thread Mars posted about Taera/Laura's passing. There are a lot of familiar names that no longer post. Some have been banned, others just don't participate anymore. And that's sad. Every necro thread I read is like that and I leave feeling sad about the hundreds that no longer participate.

    It was mentioned that we should get rid of color name status and I agree. We're equals here. We don't need systems to legitimize our comments. They should stand on their merits not the color of the poster's name or when they created the account or their post count. That would be a great step.

    Next, let's get rid of the meta buttons (agree, awesome, LOL, etc). They were a neat idea but they actually discourage participation and encourage bandwagon behavior. If people agree or disagree, let them post. These buttons aren't inherently bad, but I think they are detrimental to our community health, at least concerning participation.

    Those things might not fix the reporting/bandwagon tribalism but it could go a long way to keeping the focus on the post and not the status of the poster.

    I guess some big media company owns the site now so who knows if they're even interested in spending the money and time to improve the format. My inner luddite wishes we could return to the simpler days of phpBB and the like.

    Honestly, I'm not hopeful. I figure things will continue this way, so whatever.
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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,359
    Saddly the MMORPG world is pretty dead...dying games with little of interest to talk about...the great active days of the AC vs EQ flame wars, when the future looked bright, are gone.  Now it just seems a rehash of tired threads that do little to attract new people.  Also Twitter has stole the forum world's thunder.
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  • IsilithTehrothIsilithTehroth Member RarePosts: 599
    The site is much better than it use to be. The Mods were blatant shills that would ban you if you spoke negatively of their game they were playing at that time. I think really only the true mmorpg fans are left on this site while all the casuals quit the genre or are on reddit where they ban people there instead.
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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,860
    Mars_OMG said:
    Iselin said:
    Mars_OMG said:


    There's a level of hyprocisy that rising from this thread, and it's sickening.


    So blanket insult at the thread participants in general calling them  hypocrites. 

    Does that give you immunity to being banned for flaming because you're insulting many and not just one?

    You seem to be all about the forum rules, so how does that work?
    Thats my opinion, I didn't force it on anyone else, unlike others poster who forced and demanded that Magic: Legends must be bad, because they said so. If you can't or won''t see that, then that is on you, not me.

    and on that note, have a great life.



    I think this is a prime example of a poster using the report function to cut off criticism about a game they like. 
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,359
    YashaX said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    Iselin said:
    Mars_OMG said:


    There's a level of hyprocisy that rising from this thread, and it's sickening.


    So blanket insult at the thread participants in general calling them  hypocrites. 

    Does that give you immunity to being banned for flaming because you're insulting many and not just one?

    You seem to be all about the forum rules, so how does that work?
    Thats my opinion, I didn't force it on anyone else, unlike others poster who forced and demanded that Magic: Legends must be bad, because they said so. If you can't or won''t see that, then that is on you, not me.

    and on that note, have a great life.



    I think this is a prime example of a poster using the report function to cut off criticism about a game they like. 
    Interesting point of view. Kind of hard to go back and look over the orginal discussion since the user kano, deleted his account which also deleted his comments. 

    I think it is very interesting all of the white knights trying to run me down,- or is it just 1. who knows at this point.

    Here was my post :

    "
    Regardless of how the cash shop is implemented, the core of the game is actually pretty well done and I find a bit more enjoyable then PoE.

    The biggest thing and the most difference thing is the card system. 

    our character is a planeswalker which means they can untap all mana, draw a card which would be random and have first strike. This works well in a more linear fashion for Magic Legends.

    The combat is pretty different from what I've played in PoE as the cards are more volatile in what can be casted at any given time. It may seems like a dumb idea on the surface, but it is enough  for me at least to be more alert on what buttons I'm pushing over other arpg's that are basically a button mash. 

    Cards are your class tree in many ways. Instead of grinding away for another node , it's atleast for me more fun too grind away for a new "random" card. Quoted because that is a huge difference in my opinion is that nothing in combat is entirely concrete. The only concrete buttons are q,e, spacebar.

    There's a lot of cool things in Magic Legends and those tiny Cryptic details do shine through as a player gets deeper into the sub systems. The subsystem showcase is after the first jungle map. 

    All in all, this is a great game, it won't be one for the elitest arpg snobs, but plenty for those like myself who putt around the arpg space  

    "

    for reasons unknow to me, for kano, it was impossible for me to have this opinion, it then turned into flaming and trolling. Again, "He" deleted his account, all of my words are still up to read.

    Here is the post , you can still read remsleep/kano in the quotes

    https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/493417/magic-legends-impressions-how-does-the-magic-arpg-hold-up-in-the-early-hours-mmorpg-com/p2

    I will never, NEVER apologize for following the rules and trying to help keep the forum in a shape that new posters feel comfortable to engage this community. It's like Wonder Woman says in the Snyder Cut : "Hate serves no purpose."
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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,215
    Kyleran said:
    Here is the thing. I been around here for a while. Yes I took a long break. I dont know much about this Delete user. But I will say this. the ToS can be abused by staffs of the forums. 


    Some here may not remember, but Guild Wars 2 Guru was big violator of this, when their own mods came here and was using personal information because they were mad about people cheering about the official forum announcement.         
      

    thats not the only example. Some other cases of this can be seen here as well. I personally hate the overhype that most MMO developers did back in the day. I would criticize them often.         
                 
    Because of that, I been banned from MMORPG.com a few times. Even deleted my account once over the toxic behavior I seen from the Guild Wars 2 hype community here and the abuse of the system.  

    GW2 is one of my favorite and most played MMOs today, Yet it seem like back then any criticism was a ban.         
     
    Darkfall early on was just like this as well. Could be banned for saying anything negative about that game. 

    All my interactions from this is what made me avoid speaking on SWTOR. I saw what it was going to be and the flop that would happen, but I just stayed quiet and kept that mostly to myself. since I really didnt care about that game being a success or not.

    But it goes even deeper than just the criticism of overhyped new MMOs.

    I remember with Masssively.com did that article in which they said all games with an online element are MMOs. I early on started to see that mentality creep over here with the MMORPG.com staff, which started calling non MMOs as MMO, instead of just labeling them as non MMO content that the staff wants to talk about. Was no need to be misleading back then. 

    We started seeing more and more people of the community start adopting this misuse of the term.        
     
    I came up with a simple solution. A new acronym for the MMOs (since everything with online play was being lumped in and called MMOs here). The new acronym would help separate the old MMO model from the new definition. 

    I called the old model "SCMORPGs" (Soft Cap Multiplayer Online RPGs)

    and the new definition being used, I called "HCMORPGs" (Hard Cap Multiplayer Online RPGs)

    I got banned for that. I never forgot that.  
    There's more to your story but I'm not sure what.

    I have slagged on GW2, SWTOR, Darkfall on multiple occasions over the years, never having a kind word for any of them yet not even a warning.

    As for arguing over what is a MMO / MMORPG most here know this is one of my favorite crusades / dead horses / hills to die on where I have regularly rebutted or criticized both the staff and any poster who challenges my narrow definitions, yet again, no bans.

    I've even come up with more specific names like MORPG, Multi Player Online RPG, and the like, yet here I stand.

    Despite rumors to the contrary, I have no relatives who run this site, so why do I have almost no issues on the very same "subjects" which you claim happened in your case?

    Maybe, just maybe, it's all about how you present your arguments, and over the years I've learned quite well how to say what I wish without crossing the line.

    The only warnings or bans I've ever received is when I directly attacked a poster (called someone a special snowflake once, got me a few days off) or challenged their mental health. (Seeing as I view most gankers as psychopaths) 

    There was a day when the rules were more strictly enforced and the moderators made their presence well known. 

    The past few years they are so rarely seen or heard from I was so surprised to read a comment by one who's been around awhile I sent a PM welcoming them back to the forums.

    No reply, but no ban either. ;)
    I dont know why you didnt get banned for those things, but you know what? I bet the mods here had connections with the mods over on GW2 Guru, which hated me.       
                  
    Here is one of the rules in the MMORPG.com terms of service that often gets used back in the day to ban people that criticize those big named overhyped MMOs back then. 

    Trolling
    • Posting excessive negative comments or baiting others to respond in a negative manner is considered trolling on the MMORPG.com forums.
      For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated.
    https://www.mmorpg.com/disclaimers

    This here is the rule that can be interpreted at will. Whats to one person thats considered Trolling may not be the same to another. But when you give people authority to interpret this with their own bias fanboi eyes, you leave room for the system to be abused.  

    Guild Wars 2 been one of the most overhyped MMOs on this forum. Back before the release, you couldnt say anything that was counteractive to the Arena Net narratives for that game. 

    (yeah fast forward to a few years after release, we see a lot of those Manifesto talking points never lived up to the hype and I was 100% spot on)

    While all of this went on, the Blind GW2 fans were allowed to spread all over the rest of the forum spreading this GW2 design philosophy without challenge, because those that did would get labeled as trolling (using the above definition). There were probably so many examples of this, but most of it is lost from the forum conversion. 

    You know whats funny as well. I remember my first ban here as well, which further proves my point. It was a mistake on the mods yes, but I know what really was going down as the mod that banned me was also from GW2 guru. 

    My first ban here was from a post on the off topic forum, in which I said "The OG Halloween movie wasnt good and that the remake was better". Was banned for trolling for that thread and had to email the staff to correct that.  

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,753
    edited March 29
    @MMOExposed
    To catch you up: I don't recall Wiz being banned recently, that may be a new development, haven't seen anything . RemKano's most recent ban was evidently for telling someone to seek professional help because he claimed to like the new Magic game. And as I recall, Delete's last ban was for telling a poster that he wasn't smart enough to make his own purchasing decisions.
    Petty? Perhaps, but here we are.

    There are things happening behind the scene too here which I'm aware of... Like sending very insulting private messages to various other posters is also a bannable offense.
    Sometimes you may think a person got wrongfully banned but in reality he's even worse in private than he is on the forum.
    Just a little hint... ;)
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,359
    @MMOExposed
    To catch you up: I don't recall Wiz being banned recently, that may be a new development, haven't seen anything . RemKano's most recent ban was evidently for telling someone to seek professional help because he claimed to like the new Magic game. And as I recall, Delete's last ban was for telling a poster that he wasn't smart enough to make his own purchasing decisions.
    Petty? Perhaps, but here we are.

    There are things happening behind the scene too here which I'm aware of... Like sending very insulting private messages to various other posters is also a bannable offense.
    Sometimes you may think a person got wrongfully banned but in reality he's even worse in private than he is on the forum.
    Just a little hint... ;)
    so it wasn't me after all ? go figure ! :)
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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 2,860
    Mars_OMG said:
    YashaX said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    Iselin said:
    Mars_OMG said:


    There's a level of hyprocisy that rising from this thread, and it's sickening.


    So blanket insult at the thread participants in general calling them  hypocrites. 

    Does that give you immunity to being banned for flaming because you're insulting many and not just one?

    You seem to be all about the forum rules, so how does that work?
    Thats my opinion, I didn't force it on anyone else, unlike others poster who forced and demanded that Magic: Legends must be bad, because they said so. If you can't or won''t see that, then that is on you, not me.

    and on that note, have a great life.



    I think this is a prime example of a poster using the report function to cut off criticism about a game they like. 
    Interesting point of view. Kind of hard to go back and look over the orginal discussion since the user kano, deleted his account which also deleted his comments. 

    I think it is very interesting all of the white knights trying to run me down,- or is it just 1. who knows at this point.

    Here was my post :

    "
    Regardless of how the cash shop is implemented, the core of the game is actually pretty well done and I find a bit more enjoyable then PoE.

    The biggest thing and the most difference thing is the card system. 

    our character is a planeswalker which means they can untap all mana, draw a card which would be random and have first strike. This works well in a more linear fashion for Magic Legends.

    The combat is pretty different from what I've played in PoE as the cards are more volatile in what can be casted at any given time. It may seems like a dumb idea on the surface, but it is enough  for me at least to be more alert on what buttons I'm pushing over other arpg's that are basically a button mash. 

    Cards are your class tree in many ways. Instead of grinding away for another node , it's atleast for me more fun too grind away for a new "random" card. Quoted because that is a huge difference in my opinion is that nothing in combat is entirely concrete. The only concrete buttons are q,e, spacebar.

    There's a lot of cool things in Magic Legends and those tiny Cryptic details do shine through as a player gets deeper into the sub systems. The subsystem showcase is after the first jungle map. 

    All in all, this is a great game, it won't be one for the elitest arpg snobs, but plenty for those like myself who putt around the arpg space  

    "

    for reasons unknow to me, for kano, it was impossible for me to have this opinion, it then turned into flaming and trolling. Again, "He" deleted his account, all of my words are still up to read.

    Here is the post , you can still read remsleep/kano in the quotes

    https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/493417/magic-legends-impressions-how-does-the-magic-arpg-hold-up-in-the-early-hours-mmorpg-com/p2

    I will never, NEVER apologize for following the rules and trying to help keep the forum in a shape that new posters feel comfortable to engage this community. It's like Wonder Woman says in the Snyder Cut : "Hate serves no purpose."
    Your motivation for reporting him wasn't because he broke the rules or because what he said was hurtful, you just took an opportunity to punish him for expressing an opinion different to yours.
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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,753
    edited March 29
    Mars_OMG said:
    @MMOExposed
    To catch you up: I don't recall Wiz being banned recently, that may be a new development, haven't seen anything . RemKano's most recent ban was evidently for telling someone to seek professional help because he claimed to like the new Magic game. And as I recall, Delete's last ban was for telling a poster that he wasn't smart enough to make his own purchasing decisions.
    Petty? Perhaps, but here we are.

    There are things happening behind the scene too here which I'm aware of... Like sending very insulting private messages to various other posters is also a bannable offense.
    Sometimes you may think a person got wrongfully banned but in reality he's even worse in private than he is on the forum.
    Just a little hint... ;)
    so it wasn't me after all ? go figure ! :)

    It's not remkano I'm talking about.
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,359
    YashaX said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    YashaX said:
    Mars_OMG said:
    Iselin said:
    Mars_OMG said:


    There's a level of hyprocisy that rising from this thread, and it's sickening.


    So blanket insult at the thread participants in general calling them  hypocrites. 

    Does that give you immunity to being banned for flaming because you're insulting many and not just one?

    You seem to be all about the forum rules, so how does that work?
    Thats my opinion, I didn't force it on anyone else, unlike others poster who forced and demanded that Magic: Legends must be bad, because they said so. If you can't or won''t see that, then that is on you, not me.

    and on that note, have a great life.



    I think this is a prime example of a poster using the report function to cut off criticism about a game they like. 
    Interesting point of view. Kind of hard to go back and look over the orginal discussion since the user kano, deleted his account which also deleted his comments. 

    I think it is very interesting all of the white knights trying to run me down,- or is it just 1. who knows at this point.

    Here was my post :

    "
    Regardless of how the cash shop is implemented, the core of the game is actually pretty well done and I find a bit more enjoyable then PoE.

    The biggest thing and the most difference thing is the card system. 

    our character is a planeswalker which means they can untap all mana, draw a card which would be random and have first strike. This works well in a more linear fashion for Magic Legends.

    The combat is pretty different from what I've played in PoE as the cards are more volatile in what can be casted at any given time. It may seems like a dumb idea on the surface, but it is enough  for me at least to be more alert on what buttons I'm pushing over other arpg's that are basically a button mash. 

    Cards are your class tree in many ways. Instead of grinding away for another node , it's atleast for me more fun too grind away for a new "random" card. Quoted because that is a huge difference in my opinion is that nothing in combat is entirely concrete. The only concrete buttons are q,e, spacebar.

    There's a lot of cool things in Magic Legends and those tiny Cryptic details do shine through as a player gets deeper into the sub systems. The subsystem showcase is after the first jungle map. 

    All in all, this is a great game, it won't be one for the elitest arpg snobs, but plenty for those like myself who putt around the arpg space  

    "

    for reasons unknow to me, for kano, it was impossible for me to have this opinion, it then turned into flaming and trolling. Again, "He" deleted his account, all of my words are still up to read.

    Here is the post , you can still read remsleep/kano in the quotes

    https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/493417/magic-legends-impressions-how-does-the-magic-arpg-hold-up-in-the-early-hours-mmorpg-com/p2

    I will never, NEVER apologize for following the rules and trying to help keep the forum in a shape that new posters feel comfortable to engage this community. It's like Wonder Woman says in the Snyder Cut : "Hate serves no purpose."
    Your motivation for reporting him wasn't because he broke the rules or because what he said was hurtful, you just took an opportunity to punish him for expressing an opinion different to yours.
    neat opinion, i'll keep it mind :)
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  • Mars_OMGMars_OMG Member EpicPosts: 3,359
    Mars_OMG said:
    @MMOExposed
    To catch you up: I don't recall Wiz being banned recently, that may be a new development, haven't seen anything . RemKano's most recent ban was evidently for telling someone to seek professional help because he claimed to like the new Magic game. And as I recall, Delete's last ban was for telling a poster that he wasn't smart enough to make his own purchasing decisions.
    Petty? Perhaps, but here we are.

    There are things happening behind the scene too here which I'm aware of... Like sending very insulting private messages to various other posters is also a bannable offense.
    Sometimes you may think a person got wrongfully banned but in reality he's even worse in private than he is on the forum.
    Just a little hint... ;)
    so it wasn't me after all ? go figure ! :)

    It's not remkano I'm talking about.
    Well crud. Put my armor back on :)
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    #RestoreTheSnyderVerse 
  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,511
    edited March 29
    The gist of the topic is, whether you agree or disagree with the way people report others, behave yourself and you won't get reported.

    Insulting others won't make your point any better. Learn from your mishaps and move forward.
    SandmanjwJean-Luc_PicardAlBQuirky

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 21,248
    Bloodaxes said:
    The gist of the topic is, whether you agree or disagree with the way people report others, behave yourself and you won't get reported.

    Insulting others won't make your point any better. Learn from your mishaps and move forward.

    I agree but I don't think this will solve the problem. There are too many people here who like to troll and even if users don't get banned, they'll eventually just get tired of dealing with it and stop coming here and posting. It ends up being basically the same result either way. Fewer posters.
    AlBQuirky
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 15,012
    edited March 29
    Guys you may not have read every post in this thread, I have. What I see is posters who say this is all about the rules, but then use terminology that may be against the rules when talking about other posters. I see people who seem too ready to report and even in a thread like this seem to ready to label others with anything that comes to hand.

    We also have recriminations against each other about things which may or may not have been done. The fact is we don't know every post someone has made, we don't know about all the PM's, we don't know how people who got a ban reacted to the mods. But everyone seems to be assuming they do know. Though that's a common mistake that keeps social media churning, we come to conclusions no matter how little data we have.

    There seems to be an awful lot of everyone else is to blame, other posters, the mods, but never me. We all sometimes reply in a way we should not, this is down to all of us. I am not seeking some kind of forum utopia here, this forum lives on it cut and thrust, it just does not have to be personnel.

    I am not sure the nature of the forum has anything to do with how many posters we have, social media hit every forum. But it may do, all we might ask there is that people give some leeway to new posters, they are not your old sparring partners like we are.

    I welcome the frankness of those who said why they report, all I ask is did you really need to do it? I tend to quote and ask the poster if they think this sort of language is needed. If you have already said things you should not it is hard to do that (and yes I have been there) but you could post to say this is going too far and you both need to calm down. That does require people to accept some of the blame themselves and this is the era of never accepting blame for anything, we have returned to it always being about the other person. It does take two to tango.
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  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,179
    @MMOExposed
    To catch you up: I don't recall Wiz being banned recently, that may be a new development, haven't seen anything . RemKano's most recent ban was evidently for telling someone to seek professional help because he claimed to like the new Magic game. And as I recall, Delete's last ban was for telling a poster that he wasn't smart enough to make his own purchasing decisions.
    Petty? Perhaps, but here we are.

    There are things happening behind the scene too here which I'm aware of... Like sending very insulting private messages to various other posters is also a bannable offense.
    Sometimes you may think a person got wrongfully banned but in reality he's even worse in private than he is on the forum.
    Just a little hint... ;)
    Now see, the day is just getting started and I've learned something. I don't think I knew we could send private messages. This thread keeps delivering the hits.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,255
    @MMOExposed
    To catch you up: I don't recall Wiz being banned recently, that may be a new development, haven't seen anything . RemKano's most recent ban was evidently for telling someone to seek professional help because he claimed to like the new Magic game. And as I recall, Delete's last ban was for telling a poster that he wasn't smart enough to make his own purchasing decisions.
    Petty? Perhaps, but here we are.

    There are things happening behind the scene too here which I'm aware of... Like sending very insulting private messages to various other posters is also a bannable offense.
    Sometimes you may think a person got wrongfully banned but in reality he's even worse in private than he is on the forum.
    Just a little hint... ;)
    Now see, the day is just getting started and I've learned something. I don't think I knew we could send private messages. This thread keeps delivering the hits.
    Hopefully ignore blocks private messages. That would easily solve that problem.  Of course if it doesn’t then that would be a pretty big hole.
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  • CuddleheartCuddleheart Member UncommonPosts: 337
    My first ban here was from a post on the off topic forum, in which I said "The OG Halloween movie wasnt good and that the remake was better". 
     
    I want to make a website just to ban you for that statement, too!
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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 6,735
    Mars_OMG said:

    I hope Kano is doing well  and that he can turn what ever is happening in life around in positive way, because this thread , this single thread is exactly what Kano doesn't need and I beg mmorpg/com to lock it. 


    Sigh.  Here we are actually having a somewhat adult conversation with multiple perspectives... and still someone has to try and shut it down.  Amazing

    Well, there is a point to be made. IF RemKano is as narcissistic as we believe, s/he's got a hard on for all this attention from another account :lol:
    WhiteLantern

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    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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