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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 4,252
    All of you suck, a lot. And equally.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


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    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 15,012
    Wizardry has not been banned, though it seems I may have given that impression...Back to gaming, their seems to be even more Nazi chaps who need a really big bomb dropped on their heads.
    AlBQuirky
  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 6,717
    edited March 28
    lahnmir said:
    All of you suck, a lot. And equally.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    WoW :)
    With this community, everyone will band you  :D
    UngoodAsheramAlBQuirky
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 15,531
    lahnmir said:
    All of you suck, a lot. And equally.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    You forgot to say "except the mods. The mods are awesome."
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 29,666
    BruceYee said:


    I have a crazy idea... remove all name colors and points... maybe we can go back to a time on this site where what is being said is not affected by the need to increase forum status... and maybe also remove post count cause that before ranks/points was also something that was used to determine status. It sucks to even suggest but apparently some have become so committed to earning points that no conversation can go even slightly outside 'their' boundary of what they deem to be acceptable.



    Doesn't suck at all I"m all for it.
    AlBQuirky
  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 6,717
    Sovrath said:
    BruceYee said:


    I have a crazy idea... remove all name colors and points... maybe we can go back to a time on this site where what is being said is not affected by the need to increase forum status... and maybe also remove post count cause that before ranks/points was also something that was used to determine status. It sucks to even suggest but apparently some have become so committed to earning points that no conversation can go even slightly outside 'their' boundary of what they deem to be acceptable.



    Doesn't suck at all I"m all for it.
    This site needs a cash shop.

    P2W
    QuizzicalSandmanjwdragonlee66UngoodScotAlBQuirky
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 29,666
    Sovrath said:
    BruceYee said:


    I have a crazy idea... remove all name colors and points... maybe we can go back to a time on this site where what is being said is not affected by the need to increase forum status... and maybe also remove post count cause that before ranks/points was also something that was used to determine status. It sucks to even suggest but apparently some have become so committed to earning points that no conversation can go even slightly outside 'their' boundary of what they deem to be acceptable.



    Doesn't suck at all I"m all for it.
    This site needs a cash shop.

    P2W

    Actually, they did ask us about a subscription that would remove ads.

    I'm all for it.
    Slapshot1188Jean-Luc_PicardScotAlBQuirky
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,255
    Kyleran said:

    There's more to your story but I'm not sure what.

    I have slagged on GW2, SWTOR, Darkfall on multiple occasions over the years, never having a kind word for any of them yet not even a warning.


    My hypothesis is that it says more about the people you were engaging.  I would bet the house that if you went over those same posts you reference and cut/paste some of those same words to other posters you would be insta-reported.  IMHO it's not that the moderation is any different it's that only a select subset of posters rely on reporting as their way of "winning" an argument.  I would bet my house that 80% of reporting is done by 20% of the community and likely much more lopsided than that.

     
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 37,666
    Kyleran said:

    There's more to your story but I'm not sure what.

    I have slagged on GW2, SWTOR, Darkfall on multiple occasions over the years, never having a kind word for any of them yet not even a warning.


    My hypothesis is that it says more about the people you were engaging.  I would bet the house that if you went over those same posts you reference and cut/paste some of those same words to other posters you would be insta-reported.  IMHO it's not that the moderation is any different it's that only a select subset of posters rely on reporting as their way of "winning" an argument.  I would bet my house that 80% of reporting is done by 20% of the community and likely much more lopsided than that.

     
    So you're saying it's perhaps more a matter of who is out to get you and less about the topic at hand, perhaps so.

    I'll agree most people don't use the reporting tool, but I'm definitely in the 20%, I wield it like a scalpel when the situation warrants.






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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 13,255
    Kyleran said:
    Kyleran said:

    There's more to your story but I'm not sure what.

    I have slagged on GW2, SWTOR, Darkfall on multiple occasions over the years, never having a kind word for any of them yet not even a warning.


    My hypothesis is that it says more about the people you were engaging.  I would bet the house that if you went over those same posts you reference and cut/paste some of those same words to other posters you would be insta-reported.  IMHO it's not that the moderation is any different it's that only a select subset of posters rely on reporting as their way of "winning" an argument.  I would bet my house that 80% of reporting is done by 20% of the community and likely much more lopsided than that.

     
    So you're saying it's perhaps more a matter of who is out to get you and less about the topic at hand, perhaps so.

    I'll agree most people don't use the reporting tool, but I'm definitely in the 20%, I wield it like a scalpel when the situation warrants.






    Yup.  I'm 100% convinced of that.  We even have people that have reported replies to ME and gotten posters banned.  When I see that I always reach out and let the person know it certainly wasn't me and that the last thing I would ever want to do it shut them down.  One person even really appreciated it and invited me to their gaming community  :)


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  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,599
    Reporting might make the mods aware of a certain post and I have no doubt that some people are abusing that. However the mods still have to agree reporting on his own does nothing.

    And while I have no doubt that there have been some examples of mods abusing this by and large I don't think that's true. Jjust as Kyleran said I'm pretty sure it's mostly how things are being said. I have also been very critical of several games specifically saga of lucimia and darkfall. The only warning I've received was on a specifically attacked a poster.
    KyleranJean-Luc_PicardAlBQuirky
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
  • AbimorAbimor Member UncommonPosts: 672
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    BruceYee said:


    I have a crazy idea... remove all name colors and points... maybe we can go back to a time on this site where what is being said is not affected by the need to increase forum status... and maybe also remove post count cause that before ranks/points was also something that was used to determine status. It sucks to even suggest but apparently some have become so committed to earning points that no conversation can go even slightly outside 'their' boundary of what they deem to be acceptable.



    Doesn't suck at all I"m all for it.
    This site needs a cash shop.

    P2W

    Actually, they did ask us about a subscription that would remove ads.

    I'm all for it.
    I supported that too still do bring on the subscription. Currently on my phone the another dimension of combat is taking up my screen
    AlBQuirky
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,058
    Sometimes when people get banned, it looks completely random to me, likely in at least some cases because I didn't see the since deleted offense that drew the ban.  Sometimes I saw what they did to get banned before it gets deleted and think, well of course he got banned for that.  Caffynated was an example of the latter.

    If you want to know what happened to remsleep, I have a pretty good guess:

    https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/493417/magic-legends-impressions-how-does-the-magic-arpg-hold-up-in-the-early-hours-mmorpg-com/p2

    What is currently post #30 in the thread (fifth on the linked page) is mine, but quotes a remsleep post that has since been deleted.  A moderator tried to clean up the offending post, but missed a place that it was quoted further back in the quote chain.  You can see it by clicking "show previous quotes" on post #30.  The whole quote chain has Mars_OMG saying why he liked a game, and then remsleep responding with purely personal attacks.

    It's been several years since I got a moderator warning on this site.  About a decade ago, I'd get one or two per year, and the posts that drew them often seemed pretty random.  In at least one case, it was a troll who made a ridiculous thread and then reported everyone who replied to disagree.
    AlBQuirky
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,058
    Vrika said:
    @scott I disagree with the root cause. The problem is people that are so insecure that they feel compelled to report folks for posts they disagree with.  People need to be less worried about trying to control what others say and take control of what they see via the ignore function.  In all my time here there was only one person that needed to be put on that list and never in a million years would I want that person banned from the site. 

    As for pseudokano, I’m sure he just made another account to try and start fresh.  After the way he whiffed on Valheim I think he wanted yet another fresh start.

    I think you're wrong on why people report others.

    It's sometimes done because they hate someone and want to hurt him. Other times it's done because they want to protect someone or the community as a whole - especially parents might be inclined to report a post that they think might be harmful to children. Yet other times it's done because the person reporting believes that the rules do good, believes that he's doing good thing and helping by reporting.

    But I think reporting is only rarely done because someone is insecure. A person who is insecure or uncertain usually does not tend to call the moderator's attention to the issue. It's the people who feel secure who have no qualms about calling extra attention because they still feel secure after calling for it.
    Different people report posts for different reasons.  Nearly all of my own reports are for blatant spambots.  I have seen cases where a blatant troll reported everyone who disagreed with him.
    AlBQuirky
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,058
    Mendel said:
    If people were allowed to delete other people's accounts for the slightest offense, this (and all social media) would be desolate, barren wastelands devoid of intelligent life.  Oh wait, is that a self-fulfilling prophecy?
    One could argue that a lot of social media is already a barren wasteland devoid of intelligent life.  Ever seen Twitter?
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,058
    Brainy said:
    Their is someone on this site that I get into heated arguments with lately.  A lot of subjects we agree on, sometimes we have passionate disagreements that probably go over the line according to these snowflakes.  I never reported them, and respect them for not reported me.  I am adult enough to realize that sometimes people say things in a passionate argument. (to this person I hope there is no hard feelings)
    How do you know that the other person never reported you?  One certainly hopes that the mods don't just ban everyone who ever gets reported, but actually look at the post to determine whether it's a violation of rules.  Maybe the other person has reported you several times, and in every one, the mods looked at it and said, that's not a reportable offense.
    SovrathAlBQuirky
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,058
    Kyleran said:
    Ungood said:
    Anyone but me a tab bit perturbed that Rem was outed as Kano.

    I feel that ruined the whole reason to take a new identity to start with, and IMHO, if I ha went through the effort make a fresh start account and people outed me as my old account, I would delete it as well, as it no longer serves the purpose I made it for, and maybe try again (Maybe not) and the third time around, make sure that I didn't tell any of the yahoo's that outed me, who I really was.

    Just saying on that one.
    Pro tip, if you really want a fresh start you'll need to make a conscience decision to change your posting style / personality, especially if you have been a prolific poster.

    He made no effort at all, except for being extra cranky it was obvious to many the two were the same person even when he tried to deny it.

    I actually run multiple reddit accounts with very different personas for "reasons," not the least being to evade over zealous moderation.
    I suspect that my hardware posts here are distinctive enough that even if I were to delete this account and create another, people would figure out who I was pretty quickly.  But if I couldn't make the sort of posts that I want to make here, then what's the point in posting?
    SandmanjwAbimorAlBQuirky
  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard Member LegendaryPosts: 8,753
    edited March 28
    I got reported for being an outright asshole, and got banned, and that I accept, it's part of the forum game, and it's called accepting the consequences for one's behavior, and it was well deserved. Some here actually want to be able to freely insult posters or whole groups of the community without consequences: that's not how life works. But I also got bans for answering to insulting asshats the same way they were talking to us, so now, for some posters (very few), I changed my method... and I'm using the report button like they do instead of answering and getting myself into trouble.

    I definitely will never report anyone for just disagreeing, except of course the advertisement spam bots.
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 6,486
    edited March 28
    Band ≠ Ban

    Band is 

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    or

    Best resistance bands 2021 Stretch yourself and get stronger with the best  resistance bands to buy  Expert Reviews



    Ban

    FileBan circle font awesome-redsvg - Wikimedia Commons


    And one gets banned not band.
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  • DafAtRandomDafAtRandom Member UncommonPosts: 115
    Tokken said:
    The problem is, some of these people that get banned don't learn their lesson or understand their own behaviors on WHY they get banned. I.E. - Remsleep(Kano) 

    deleting their account and remaking an avatar doesn't fix the problem.

    In that particular individual's case, it is because they are an obvious narcissist.  They can try to want a clean slate all they want, it doesn't change who they are.  As hard as they will, the condescension will resurface in their posts.  When they cannot control themselves to the point they tell others that they are having fun wrong or that they are not having as much fun as they are claiming to have because they are not following they're own views on how to maximize fun, the clean slate will never last.
    WhiteLanternAlBQuirky
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 23,058
    kitarad said:
    Band ≠ Ban

    And one gets banned not band.
    Please clarify:  which one is this:

    https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Band_in_China

    That is, after all, the episode that resulted in South Park being banned in China.
    Jean-Luc_PicardkitaradScotAlBQuirky
  • SandmanjwSandmanjw Member RarePosts: 385
    I just have to laugh at some people here. Maybe salute too....

    Talking about how horrible the moderators are, how they ban folks for no reason....and yet if they are that overbearing and terrible, why would you antagonize them then?

    Or maybe they are just doing their job, following the rules and you do not agree with the rules? A temp ban is not the end of the world....

    Ahh well, i have not seen anyone be too harsh with ban's, but this time...it seems to be some self inflicted problems to me. Along with ANOTHER overreaction of deleting an account.

    Most likely there is already a new account that is monitoring everything here....just have to wait a bit till they self destruct again or moderate themselves.... 


    Jean-Luc_PicardAlBQuirky
  • Abscissa15Abscissa15 Member UncommonPosts: 57
    We are all adults here, editorially speaking, and should be able to post opinions without crossing the border between criticism and personal attacks. Even when this fails people in general could have slightly thicker skins and absorb an insult from time to time, ToS notwithstanding. @Brainy called out toxic snowflakes and hit the nail on the head. It just appears to me that as time marches on there are more and more people that go through life apparently looking for things to be offended by.

    ...  and @Scorchien called Kano a pussy  ... I just don't know what to say ...  
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  • MendelMendel Member EpicPosts: 4,461
    Quizzical said:
    Mendel said:
    If people were allowed to delete other people's accounts for the slightest offense, this (and all social media) would be desolate, barren wastelands devoid of intelligent life.  Oh wait, is that a self-fulfilling prophecy?
    One could argue that a lot of social media is already a barren wasteland devoid of intelligent life.  Ever seen Twitter?

    I look at Twitter as a communication tool for people completely incapable of communicating.  So, yes, I agree.



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  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 6,717
    I got reported for being an outright asshole, and got banned, and that I accept, it's part of the forum game, and it's called accepting the consequences for one's behavior, and it was well deserved. Some here actually want to be able to freely insult posters or whole groups of the community without consequences: that's not how life works. But I also got bans for answering to insulting asshats the same way they were talking to us, so now, for some posters (very few), I changed my method... and I'm using the report button like they do instead of answering and getting myself into trouble.

    I definitely will never report anyone for just disagreeing, except of course the advertisement spam bots.
    Captain Kirk wouldn't report anyone, he would stand his ground.  But I could picture Jean Luc Picard reporting everyone back to StarFleet.

    Lots of paperwork when the USS Enterprise beams everyone back to Earth.  Kirk would handle it internally.  
    SandmanjwSlapshot1188AlBQuirky
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